ATI 4670 or Nvidia 9600 GT

Hi everyone I would like to ask the community for a simple question,
I'm trying to buy a new graphics card to upgrade my nvidia onboard 8200
The price of the graphics card has to be less than $90 usd, the two cards that I'm looking at are:

ATI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161252

Nvidia:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814143161

I was wondering which of these two cards would be best suited for medium to high settings on games played at 1440 x 900,

I have an AMD 6400+ stock, 4gb ram, 500 watt power supply, 64 bit vista ultimate, if any of this matters;

If you have any suggestion please feel free to share but remember under $90.

Thanks.

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$10 more than what you are looking at but ther wont be much you cant max out with it.

Take a look
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4830/

Mactronix

Reply to mactronix

If your PSU is up to it (any quality brand/model), then +1@mactronix. If your PSU is poopy, then get the 4670, as it uses less power than the 9600GT.

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Reply to jtt283

I`d also suggest the HD4830 if you can reach for it, if not the 9600GT is a little faster than the HD4670.

Reply to coozie7

Go for 9600GT or HD4830. They both outperform 4670.

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Reply to Euphoria_MK

I did not mean to imply that the 4670 had better performance; it is one tier LOWER than the 9600GT on Cleeve's chart. A low-powered or poor-quality PSU would have less trouble with a 4670, and with a budget of $90, getting another PSU is not an option.
Of course, the OP hasn't listed his PSU. He may already have an Antec Earthwatts 430 (or 380, or 500, or...) in which case he can run a 4830.

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Reply to jtt283

Well the power supply came free with the case,
here's the case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811226012

and the description for the power supply is here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Show [...] l%20Window

Now I am considering the 4830 it seems like rather a good card

Reply to AeRoDyNamiX

To be perfectly honest it dosent look good The 4830 uses about 85 Watts at peak which is more than the approx 75 supplied by the PCIE slot.
Obviously this is why it needs a 6 pin PCIE power cable.

Trying to run the card on a weak PSU could blow the card or worse the whole system. Most likley it would either down clock or plain not work but the possability is there and very real.
So to be on the safe side with that PSU the 4670 is the way to go.

Mactronix

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mactronix wrote :

To be perfectly honest it dosent look good The 4830 uses about 85 Watts at peak which is more than the approx 75 supplied by the PCIE slot.
Obviously this is why it needs a 6 pin PCIE power cable.

Trying to run the card on a weak PSU could blow the card or worse the whole system. Most likley it would either down clock or plain not work but the possability is there and very real.
So to be on the safe side with that PSU the 4670 is the way to go.

Mactronix

Really? wow well I'm tempted to try anyways even thought I know I shouldn't as for the other two, the 9600GT seems like a better option if I can't get the 4830, thanks for the help, If anyone else wants to suggest something else I'm open to suggestions, less than $90 of course.
Thanks.

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Reply to AeRoDyNamiX

Sigma is not a good PSU, and that looks like an old design. The 4670 is a much safer choice.

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Reply to jtt283

Wait for the 4750.

Reply to swifty_morgan

What is the 4750?

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Reply to AeRoDyNamiX

Actually I think I meant 4770. Here's acouple of links to read through.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/rade [...] view-test/

and this one. It doesn't specifically mention the new cards but the writer says to wait............. meaning something new and probably a little better is on the way.

http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=3538

Reply to swifty_morgan

The 9600GT is generally faster, so go with that 9600GT especially since it has the nice rebate right now. The only way I'd say go with the 4670 is if you have a crossfire board (which it seems you don't), or if your PSU has a low amp ratting on the 12v rail.

AeRoDyNamiX wrote :

Really? wow well I'm tempted to try anyways even thought I know I shouldn't as for the other two, the 9600GT seems like a better option if I can't get the 4830, thanks for the help, If anyone else wants to suggest something else I'm open to suggestions, less than $90 of course.
Thanks.

As you say you are tempted to try it anyway i will just throw this in.
The PCIE slot supplies 75 watts, its generally regarded as a standard but it isnt official.
Now if your PSU has a Native 6 pin PCIE cable, thats built directly into the loom and not made up with adaptors. Then in theory it should run the card or else why is the cable there if it cant deliver the power ?

Again the safe option is not to try it but as you seem likley to i figured you should have as much info as possable in order to make a choice.
If you do try it keep a very close eye on your temps as high temps on the card would be a good indication that its trying to pull more than the PSU can give it.

Personally i wouldnt do it but its your rig,

Good luck Mactronix

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Reply to mactronix

The 9600GT is junk for gaming. Dont waste your money. If you cant afford a 4830 or 4850, then just save a few more dollars. The 4830 is just as fast as a 9800GT and the 4850 is as fast as the 9800GTX+.

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Reply to zipzoomflyhigh

wait for the 4770 +1

Reply to dwe_khal

mactronix wrote :

As you say you are tempted to try it anyway i will just throw this in.
The PCIE slot supplies 75 watts, its generally regarded as a standard but it isnt official.
Now if your PSU has a Native 6 pin PCIE cable, thats built directly into the loom and not made up with adaptors. Then in theory it should run the card or else why is the cable there if it cant deliver the power ?

Again the safe option is not to try it but as you seem likley to i figured you should have as much info as possable in order to make a choice.
If you do try it keep a very close eye on your temps as high temps on the card would be a good indication that its trying to pull more than the PSU can give it.

Personally i wouldnt do it but its your rig,

Good luck Mactronix

I appreciate the helpful advice and I do believe it has a native 6 pin cable and so I do believe that it should be able to handle this card and as far as the other two the 9600 GT seems better as you guys have described it, but I'm still looking.

Reply to AeRoDyNamiX

AeRoDyNamiX wrote :

What is the 4750?

the HD 4770 Performance A lot better then HD4830 (that's mean Geforce 9800GT too)..and will be cheaper then booth
and use less power source .. :love:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] &Itemid=34

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salem80 wrote :

the HD 4770 Performance A lot better then HD4830 (that's mean Geforce 9800GT too)..and will be cheaper then booth
and use less power source .. :love:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] &Itemid=34

Is there any word on the release date or when ATI is planning to release them?

Edit: apparently it's until May 4 i don't think I can wait that long

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/A [...] ,7435.html

Message edited by AeRoDyNamiX on 04-04-2009 at 03:05:18 AM

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