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reddragon0000   06-11-2009 at 02:41:11 AM

ok guys I'm sure people have asked a hundred times...lol

I want to get an AMD cpu for gaming. Here are the 2 cpus i'm considering


Phenom X4 9850 quad core 2.5ghz

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Phenom II X2 (duel core) 550 Black Edition 3.1 ghz

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randomizer   06-11-2009 at 02:58:30 AM
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Nothing else considered get the second one.

 

EDIT: Oops, missed the dual core part. Maybe go for a lower clocked Phenom II X4.


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mindless728   06-11-2009 at 03:02:08 AM
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i have a Phenom II X4 810, and it works great (undervolted to 1.2, normally 1.325 and stable)

also OC's well, can reach ~3.2ish pretty easily

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reddragon0000   06-11-2009 at 03:07:00 AM
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I'm not into overclocking, so I figured maybe the 3.1ghz would be better? or the ghz does not matter for gaming purposes

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loneninja   06-11-2009 at 04:27:27 AM
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Even though its only a dual core, that Phenom II will out perform the Phenom in most tasks due to the higher clock speed, and that includes most games.

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jennyh   06-11-2009 at 04:39:08 AM
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Get the 720 x3 which costs a bit more, or just go with the x2 550 if you really can't afford another $20 or so.

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reddragon0000   06-11-2009 at 01:54:46 PM
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The chip I am going to get later is the Phenom II X4 940 quad 3.0ghz, but I have to wait for the price to drop it is a but pricey right now at about $189.00, plus I heard right now quad cores are useless as Vista and most games only read 2 cores, is that correct?

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jj463rd   06-11-2009 at 04:26:17 PM
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Vista can fully utilize 4 cores.Most software (games) are not optimized for quad core CPU's but a select few titles are (Microsoft Flight Simulator X being one of the best examples).
The Phenom x4 9850 BE was AMD's last year CPU and you're much better off with the Phenom II series.The Phenom II x3 720 is a very good choice (bang for the buck) and so is the Phenom II x4 940 as well as other Phenom II CPU's.

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reddragon0000   06-11-2009 at 10:49:48 PM
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ok, decided to get the Phenom II X2 (duel core) 3.1ghz 550 BE for now. Once they roll out more games that are quad ready, i'll updgrade to a 3.0ghz quad core :-)

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megamanx00   06-11-2009 at 11:17:58 PM
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Definetly Phenom II X2 (duel core) 3.1ghz 550 BE. The higher clock speed and newer architecture (slightly updated from older phenoms) will be of more use to you in games. It also runs cooler and uses less power :D. When it comes time for you to need even more power I hope you will consider overclocking it as the unlocked multiplier makes it easy to do.

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ssguy24   06-11-2009 at 11:43:09 PM
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its DUAL. DUAL means two DUEL means your CPU is facing off itself in a fight.

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reddragon0000   06-11-2009 at 11:56:13 PM
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I got the CPU,and it runs great! I did try overclock it using the multiplier only to 13x and my computer screen went blue and shut down...lol I think i'll have to leave it at 3.1ghz. Maybe this mother board (ASUS M3A78) is not good for overclocking.

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rooseveltdon   06-12-2009 at 12:10:14 AM
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reddragon0000 wrote :

I got the CPU,and it runs great! I did try overclock it using the multiplier only to 13x and my computer screen went blue and shut down...lol I think i'll have to leave it at 3.1ghz. Maybe this mother board (ASUS M3A78) is not good for overclocking.


wow only at 13x and it BSOD? did you disable spread and cool n quiet? sometimes those get in the way of a proper overclock

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reddragon0000   06-12-2009 at 12:13:26 AM
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did think about disabling that cool & quiet thingy...let me give it a shot XD

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AKM880   06-12-2009 at 12:24:44 AM
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Yep when you overclock don't run Cool & Qiuet.

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reddragon0000   06-12-2009 at 12:37:53 AM
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Sweeeet. I overclocked the multipler to 18x, got the GHz from 3.1 to 3.6ghz. My vista score went up from 5.6 to 5.8 XD. My CPU temp is 42-44c with no game play, not sure what it will go up to during game play. Disabling that cool & quiet worked, now do i attempt to get to 3.9ghz...ponders. I just don't want to mess with the voltage

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AKM880   06-12-2009 at 12:54:17 AM
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Remember to run stress tests.

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rooseveltdon   06-12-2009 at 12:54:52 AM
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reddragon0000 wrote :

Sweeeet. I overclocked the multipler to 18x, got the GHz from 3.1 to 3.6ghz. My vista score went up from 5.6 to 5.8 XD. My CPU temp is 42-44c with no game play, not sure what it will go up to during game play. Disabling that cool & quiet worked, now do i attempt to get to 3.9ghz...ponders. I just don't want to mess with the voltage



It is possible to reach 3.9 on a good cooler however for the 550 from what i have seen 3.6/3.7 is the sweet spot make sure you test the system and check the temps under heavy load as well,glad i could help.

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reddragon0000   06-12-2009 at 01:21:08 AM
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Thanks for all the advice, diffently comes in handy. I love this board, get some good advice here ^^

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witcherx   06-12-2009 at 06:28:29 AM
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keep it low... and save energy...3.0 stock or 3.6 does not make real difference to us users unless you doin a lot of photo/sound/video editing..... you can do all you can @ 3.0 what 1 can do @ 4.0... that is just a braggin right... its a great cpu.. surprise you already got 1 so early... after posting... have a great time with it...
i am planning to get that lower AMD 905e which is very energy efficient....
Cheers..


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mindless728   06-12-2009 at 05:11:06 PM
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^that right there is the reason for my htpc build im underclocking/undervolting that and to keep the heat down in a mATX slim case

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reddragon0000   06-12-2009 at 06:25:29 PM
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:bounce:


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