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UPGRADE GA-P31-DS3L with INTEL Core 2 Quad Q9650

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June 11, 2009 12:15:32 PM

Hi All,

I am attempting to upgrade the cpu of my GA-P31-DS3L with F10a BIOS
To an INTEL Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0 GHz 12MB Yorkfield purchased from tekheads this week.

However, the system hangs (freezes) at Windows Bootscreen when cpu is in.

I have tried as many tweaks as i can think of including many different BIOS configurations.

Would you guys have any idea what the issue may be and can you think of any configurations I can try to fix the problem. It's a shame if it won't work because it looks like a real good processor and i really don't want to have to sell it on via EBAY...

Thanx in advance for your advice. Gerard
June 11, 2009 3:48:32 PM

Hi Gerard,

I would recommend you to ask for a help on Gigabyte Tech forum, just click on the link below:

TweakTown

I'm pretty sure one of the moderators will be able to help you out.

Good luck
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June 11, 2009 11:25:07 PM

Have you tried by "not trying" meaning no tweaks and just leave the BIOS to default setup values?
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June 12, 2009 8:19:52 AM

Thanks Guys,

I have indeed used the defalt Bios settings and both the 'Failsafe' and 'Optimised Defalt' settings.

Also thanks for the Gigabyte forum link. I will try that next.

I am also going to try uninstalling all hardware - LAN, Graphics Card, PCI cards etc. and a try a boot probably tomorrow now as i have a graphic design job to finish up with the old (working) processor.

Since yesterday someone had suggested upping FSB abd DDR voltages, however that was a no go too. :( 

Gotta Go - Thanks 4 tips. G.
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June 12, 2009 8:30:33 AM

Try relaxing your RAM timing slightly.
June 12, 2009 8:52:31 AM

Thanks Mi1ez,

Will put that on my TODO list for tonight.

Big G.
June 12, 2009 8:54:12 AM

check the ram also using Memtest86
June 12, 2009 1:13:09 PM

I would try downloading a linux live cd (fedora or ubuntu) and try booting for it with the new processor. If it boots then there is some problem with your windows install, if it hangs then you have a hardware problem.
June 12, 2009 3:19:23 PM

I have never used Linux. Allways wanted to give it a go though.

So now's as good a time as any.
Downloading it now and on wackin it on my TDL for tonight.

THANX G.

June 15, 2009 8:10:46 PM

The CMOS might have to be reset.

Remove the battery, wait a few minutes, reinstall + side up.
Retry with M.I.T. all default or Auto.
June 15, 2009 8:41:23 PM

IDK if it applys to this situation, but I tryed to upgrade an AthlonX2 to a PhenomIIX4 without reinstalling windows and had nothing but problems. If you have a spare HD laying around, I would try a fresh install and if that fixes it, then wipe and reinstall on your main drive.

In theory, Windows should be fine with an increase of cores, but my (limited) experience tells me otherwise.
June 16, 2009 3:35:37 PM

Thanks.

I have tried the defalt and auto M.I.T. And at first glance the BIOS does seem to automatically apply the correct settings. Have also wiped the CMOS - sometimes I have no other option but TO wipe it.

I do have a suspicion about the OS though bcause I have had problems in the past replacing hardware on other systems after service packs are installed. Windows seems to get a bit posessive and won't let go even after they are physically gone.

I am trying a LINUX boot from CD next and if that works will try a clean xp install onto another partition.

If neither of the above work it's back to the BIOS : I will mail the Gigabyte and INTEL to get recomended settings once I have ruled out OS problems. And hope i get a reply...?!

KEEPING THE POST UP TO DATE TILL I FIND THE ANSWER.

Regards Big G.
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June 16, 2009 5:44:51 PM


What processor did you have before.

It might be that your powersupply is not up to the job with your new processor as it may take more wattage than your previous processor.

Powersupplies are important too G.
June 23, 2009 10:43:45 AM

Hellboy said:
What processor did you have before.

It might be that your powersupply is not up to the job with your new processor as it may take more wattage than your previous processor.

Powersupplies are important too G.


OLD processor specs are:
INTEL Pentium D925
3ghz 2mb-L2Cache FSB 800mhz

G.
June 23, 2009 10:45:20 AM

Thanks again for all the ADV. :D 

Since last post I have tried:

Booting from LINUX
RESULT - SAME SYS FREEZE ON OS BOOT

(therefore have decided not to try new xp install or repairs - prob must be somewhere other than os)

Uninstalling all other hardware
RESULT - SAME SYS FREEZE ON OS BOOT

Using just 1 stick of ram
RESULT - SAME

Talking to the computer nicely and surprising it with flowers and chocolate
RESULT - SAME AS BEFORE

Have run many system checks including TUB CD and Eurosoft PC Check.
RESULT - ALL HARDWATE CHECKS PASS EXCEPT__
**cpu cache coherency**

FULL RESULT:

PC-CHECK EUROSOFT
MP SYMMETRY CHECK
(ALL MP SYM CHECKS PASS XCPT...

CACHE COHERENCY
PROCESSOR 1-4

(1) BOOT CPU INTEL CORE - N/A OR PASS
(2) APP CPU INTEL CORE - (SYSYEM FREEZE) THEN MANUAL REBOOT REQUIRED
(3) APP CPU INTEL CORE - (SYSYEM FREEZE) THEN MANUAL REBOOT REQUIRED
(4) APP CPU INTEL CORE - PASS

Well Guys N Girls - On the back of these results can I assume there is a conflict between either graphics mem, or RAM.
Or is it somthing else entirely?

To be quite honest i am now wandering out of my comfort zone with things such as cache coherency.

My RAM specs are: 2off
Samsung
DDR2 1024mb PC2-4300(266Mhz)

Processor specs are:
INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q9650
3GHz 12MB-L2Cache FSB 1333MHz

OLD processor specs are:
INTEL Pentium D925
3ghz 2mb-L2Cache FSB 800mhz


Hows about them apples!?

As always a push in the right direction is always appreciated... :~)

Best regards to ALL - Big G
June 23, 2009 10:47:57 AM

you need 667mhz or above ram for core 2 45nm processors.
June 23, 2009 12:28:07 PM

Thanx Helloworld -98.

Looks like i could be on the verge of fixing my little prob.

I'll research the Ram for my MB and try some new sticks. However I have tried sussing out ram for this Momo on GIGABYTE Site before and find it pretty confuzzing.

:)  Big G.
June 24, 2009 10:53:50 AM

Update:

Why didnt I think of ram compatibility??? Doh...! :D 

I contacted Crucial and they spec'd me

1GB, 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400 memory module
CT12864AA800
Module Size: 1GB
Package: 240-pin DIMM
Feature: DDR2 PC2-6400
Specs: DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 1.8V • 128Meg x 64 •


As compatible with the Q9650. So I'm gonna get four of those and fire her up..

I am checking with NVIDIA for Gcard compatability.


Manufacturer : Nvidia Corp (Elitegroup Computer Sys)
Model : NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
Bus Type : PCI-Express
Total Memory : 512 MB
Texture Memory : 740 MB
Processor : GeForce 8400 GS
Converter : Integrated RAMDAC
Refresh Rate (min/max) : 56/75 Hz
Codename : G86
Revision : A2
Bus : 128-bit
Memory Type : GDDR3
GPU Frequency : 459 MHz - [initial : 459 MHz]
Shader Clock : 1836 MHz - [initial : 918 MHz]
Memory Frequency GPU : 333 MHz - [initial : 333 MHz]
DirectX Support : 10
Pixel Shader Version : 3.0

Thanks for advice - All the best G.
July 3, 2009 10:42:13 PM

:sol:  SOLVED - UPGRADE Core 2 Quad Q9650


OK It's Sorted. Thanks for all the help.

In the end it all came down to incompatible ram.

I replaced the 2gigs of 266mhz with 4 gigs of 400mhz.

(Special tnx to helloworld_98 :D  )

The whole system runs great now and cuts through big files on CS4 apps like butter...

Thanks go out to everyone who helped with suggestions with my problem solving hitlist.

This is BIG G, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off.

:hello: 
!