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Samsung Spinpoint F4

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September 29, 2010 3:38:52 AM

Any reviews or comments on the Samsung F4 hard drive? I am surprised to find none, especially considering the F3 is the top rated 1TB drive for performance and noise level (close second to noisier WD Black's).

The Samsung F4EG's use a higher density 667 gb platter and are 5400rpm thus less power/heat/noise -- and rumor has it just as fast at the 7200rpm F3s !! 1.5TB and 2.0TB models listed on samsung website.


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October 1, 2010 11:24:30 PM

Any ideas when WD and Seagate coming out with 667 gb/platter drives?

Will I see much performance or noise difference between Samsung F3 and F4?
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October 3, 2010 5:06:11 AM

ss_blake said:
Any ideas when WD and Seagate coming out with 667 gb/platter drives?

Will I see much performance or noise difference between Samsung F3 and F4?



Here is another review of the F4 320 It's not as impressive as i'd hoped. My guess is WD and Seagate won't feel threatened by this ...
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October 3, 2010 1:38:41 PM

What isn't as impressive? 155MB/s sequential throughput is quite nice; for anything else we know HDD sucks hard. HDDs will only ever be good in sequential I/O and nothing else. Think of them as mass storage devices; while SSDs store common files like your OS and apps.

Feel threatened? Of course they do; if you competitor has 666GB platters and can sell 2TB drives with one platter less; that makes they make more money on 2TB drives than those still using 500GB platters. So of course everybody feels threatened by Samsungs good progress. WD EARS 3-platter is also not distinguishable from the older 4-platters; they have the same product name as far as i know.

Beyond WD EARS 3platter and Samsung F4 i have not yet seen any 666GB-platters in the wild.
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October 6, 2010 1:51:28 AM

sub mesa said:
What isn't as impressive? 155MB/s sequential throughput is quite nice; for anything else we know HDD sucks hard. HDDs will only ever be good in sequential I/O and nothing else. Think of them as mass storage devices; while SSDs store common files like your OS and apps.

Feel threatened? Of course they do; if you competitor has 666GB platters and can sell 2TB drives with one platter less; that makes they make more money on 2TB drives than those still using 500GB platters. So of course everybody feels threatened by Samsungs good progress. WD EARS 3-platter is also not distinguishable from the older 4-platters; they have the same product name as far as i know.

Beyond WD EARS 3platter and Samsung F4 i have not yet seen any 666GB-platters in the wild.



Compared to the wd 500GB/platter blacks the F4 320 didn't impress me.

Here is an article on how to spot the green 3 platter drives. I havn't verified this, but it sounds reasonable.
Here is another review benchmarking the 3platter vs 4platter greens. Looks like a near 12% increase ...
Put a 12% increase on the black drives and that's why i'm not impressed with the F4.
It's worth waiting imo ... I plan on buying two drives once more 667GB/p drives are out (something larger to replace two filled 320GB drives).
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October 6, 2010 11:07:29 AM

The F4 is faster than the 500GB blacks, so what isn't there to be impressive? The Blacks use high-power seeks; something benchmarks undoubtedly will forgot to mention. To compare Samsung and WD in seek benchmarks, you would need to tune the AAM (Automatic Acoustic Management) settings of the drive. I suspect the WD Blacks come with higher power seeks by default.

So i still don't understand why you are not impressed. The Samsung F4 may well be the fastest desktop-class HDD at the moment.

The F4 320GB is no faster or slower than a 2TB F4 for sequential transfers, the main advantage here is the low amount of mechanical components, meaning these 320GB disks should be very reliable and fail much less often than multiplatter disks. They are mostly used in OEM market, where the warranty is done by the OEM-company (Dell, HP) instead and as such reliability and failure rate become very important.

So i think both the 320GB and 2TB F4 drives are very interesting from multiple perspectives.
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October 6, 2010 7:33:56 PM

I agree that they are interesting, but i'm still not impressed (a subjective opinion based on my own preferences ... ). I'm sorry you can't understand that :( 
I will continue to wait for a competing 7200rpm product (larger one at that).
Saying it beats the wd black drives is highly debatable (not worth my time).

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