thanks jsc. Nope, not interested in over clocking. Are you saying any that use pushpins won't require the MB removal?
The Arctic Cooler Freezer 7 Pro looks HUGE, but this is great - 1.75 sone with stock and .8 sone with the Artic. Too bad their website doesn't list motherboard compatibility like Zalman does. And no LEDs, but hey, can't ask for anything
will do some measurements...