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Ourselfish   03-12-2009 at 08:19:37 PM

Possible ram or video card issue Blue Screen

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 1e
BCP1: FFFFFFFFC0000005
BCP2: FFFFF8000232C6B7
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
OS Version: 6_0_6001
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini031209-06.dmp
C:\Users\Admin_\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-41496-0.sysdata.xml
C:\Users\Admin_\AppData\Local\Temp\WEREB19.tmp.version.txt

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managed to snap this photo before it restarted.
had 2 or 3 seconds, a little dirty.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2wqafwp.jpg


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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   03-12-2009 at 08:30:52 PM
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You really need to post your full computer specs. A lot of BSOD's are caused by RAM problems. Did you manually set the RAM timings and voltage to the manufacturers specs in the BIOS? Have you run memtest86+ overnight to test for RAM errors?

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Ourselfish   03-12-2009 at 08:40:49 PM
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I did not set the ram timings. I have not run memtest.

 

what other info should I post?
http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] _hpc_1066/
http://www.ocztechnology.com/produ [...] pc_edition

Code :
  1. OS Name    Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate
  2. Version    6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001
  3. Other OS Description     Not Available
  4. OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
  5. System Name    ADMIN
  6. System Manufacturer    MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
  7. System Model    MS-7512
  8. System Type    x64-based PC
  9. Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz, 2403 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
  10. BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. V1.0, 5/21/2008
  11. SMBIOS Version    2.5
  12. Windows Directory    C:\Windows
  13. System Directory    C:\Windows\system32
  14. Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume3
  15. Locale    United States
  16. Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "6.0.6001.18000"
  17. User Name    Admin\Admin_
  18. Time Zone    Eastern Daylight Time
  19. Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    8.00 GB
  20. Total Physical Memory    4.00 GB
  21. Available Physical Memory    6.66 GB
  22. Total Virtual Memory    16.0 GB
  23. Available Virtual Memory    14.7 GB
  24. Page File Space    8.29 GB
  25. Page File    C:\pagefile.sys


http://i41.tinypic.com/1zvyec6.png


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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   03-12-2009 at 09:27:14 PM
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Your RAM isn't running at the right specs. You should manually set the RAM to run at 5-5-5-15 timings at 2.1v - 2.3v according to the specs you linked to. That RAM runs at pretty high voltages (the DDR2 standard is 1.8v) and may not be getting enough voltage to run correctly using AUTO settings in the BIOS. You also need to run memtest86+ to test for RAM errors. Running four sticks of RAM is harder on your motherboard than two sticks. You may even need to bump the Northbridge voltage up a notch to stabilize the system. I'd just start off getting the RAM running at its specified settings, though.

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Ourselfish   03-12-2009 at 09:59:57 PM
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Let me open my manual here.
Where should I put these settings-

 

Cell menu options include
Advance Dram Settings
Configure Dram by SPD 5-5-5-15 goes here?
tRCD
tRP <
tRAS < or in here somewhere?
tRFC <
tWR
tWTR
tRRD
tRTP
MEMORY-Z <-or here

 


Message edited by Ourselfish on 03-12-2009 at 10:01:07 PM
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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   03-12-2009 at 10:08:56 PM
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The middle one is correct. The CPU-Z screenshot you posted actually shows you what settings are what. The RAM is currently being run at 5-7-7-20 according to CPU-Z.

 

CAS# Latency CL (5)
tRCD (5)
tRP (5)
tRAS (15)

 

There will also be a place to set the RAM voltage. Be sure to set it to at least 2.1v. You may even need to bump it up to 2.2v or 2.3v since the RAM is rated to those voltages and 4 sticks of RAM often need more voltage than 2.


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Ourselfish   03-12-2009 at 10:10:55 PM
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what will the voltage setting look like?

 

"wow awesome."

 

there are some voltage settings but they are read only, according to the manual

 

Also FSB Dram ratio can be set to 1:2.00 sets it to 1332
Set at auto or 1333:1066 -1067 which is the same as auto


Message edited by Ourselfish on 03-12-2009 at 10:16:34 PM
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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   03-12-2009 at 10:16:56 PM
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I don't know what your motherboard model is. I probably won't be a lot of help with it anyway since I've avoided MSI for quite a few years. The manual should show where to change the DDR2 voltage. Could you post the "Mainboard" and "SPD" tabs from CPU-Z? That should show your motherboard model and more info on the RAM.

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Ourselfish   03-12-2009 at 10:25:58 PM
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Alright then thanks for all the help.
MSI P45 Platinum


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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   03-12-2009 at 10:28:43 PM
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So the system isn't getting a BSOD any more? That's great! Hopefully people with similar problems will read this thread.

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Ourselfish   03-12-2009 at 10:35:47 PM
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unfortunately it is.


Message edited by Ourselfish on 03-13-2009 at 01:56:43 AM
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Ourselfish   03-12-2009 at 11:35:48 PM
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Didnt solve the problem just got the same error again and a crash caused by flash.
and the ram, Im going to have to find the Dram voltage setting

 

noticed this in the bios

 

DRAM Voltage is in the RED "Unreccommended Settings"
MCH Voltage in the RED

 

http://www.overclockersclub.com/siteimages/articles/msi_p45_platinum/90_thumb.jpg
http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] inum/5.htm

 

ok got it set it 2.220

 

got this error with out the bsod

 

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: svchost.exe_EMDMgmt
Application Version: 6.0.6001.18000
Application Timestamp: 47919291
Fault Module Name: StackHash_3328
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791adec
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 00000000000a6e97
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 3328
Additional Information 2: 9a32a85e6afd2c2adf975592345df9cb
Additional Information 3: 60aa
Additional Information 4: adb92caea57b5ecc659d4ab5d85fed7d

 

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had to close groupmanager.exe from the log on in msconfig possibly infected with mal-ware.
this process should not have been starting on boot.

 

Detected an outgoing signal and blocked that too.
But this topic is about something different.

 

Ill post again if the BSoD occurs again.


Message edited by Ourselfish on 03-12-2009 at 11:58:11 PM
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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   03-12-2009 at 11:52:17 PM
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It's pretty hard to read that screenshot, but your DRAM voltage should be at least 2.1v. It looks to me like it's 2.04v or something. The MCH voltage can probably be set to "Auto" for now.

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Ourselfish   03-13-2009 at 12:48:30 AM
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Code :
  1. OS Name    Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate
  2. Version    6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001
  3. Other OS Description     Not Available
  4. OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
  5. System Name    ADMIN
  6. System Manufacturer    MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
  7. System Model    MS-7512
  8. System Type    x64-based PC
  9. Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz, 2403 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
  10. BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. V1.0, 5/21/2008
  11. SMBIOS Version    2.5
  12. Windows Directory    C:\Windows
  13. System Directory    C:\Windows\system32
  14. Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume3
  15. Locale    United States
  16. Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "6.0.6001.18000"
  17. User Name    Admin\Admin_
  18. Time Zone    Eastern Daylight Time
  19. [b]Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    8.00 GB
  20. Total Physical Memory    4.00 GB
  21. Available Physical Memory    6.63 GB[/b]
  22. Total Virtual Memory    16.0 GB
  23. Available Virtual Memory    14.7 GB
  24. Page File Space    8.29 GB
  25. Page File    C:\pagefile.sys



Am I properly Utilizing my memory- or can i get more out of what I have already installed.

OK just got it again. set the MCH to 1.34

Other notes:

Cpu Clocked to 3.0 manually
And the bios freezes when i try to enter the E.P.P settings.

Both IE and Mozilla are crashing now,

Non specific hardware issue detected with Vista Memory Utility.
running mem test.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ep0knm.png


Message edited by Ourselfish on 03-13-2009 at 01:59:13 AM
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Ourselfish   03-13-2009 at 02:30:11 AM
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anyone?

Code :
  1. Problem signature:
  2.   Problem Event Name:    BlueScreen
  3.   OS Version:    6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
  4.   Locale ID:    1033
  6. Additional information about the problem:
  7.   BCCode:    1a
  8.   BCP1:    0000000000005003
  9.   BCP2:    FFFFF90000812000
  10.   BCP3:    0000000000003CA3
  11.   BCP4:    FFFFF900C0B9D201
  12.   OS Version:    6_0_6001
  13.   Service Pack:    1_0
  14.   Product:    256_1
  16. Files that help describe the problem:
  17.   C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini031209-12.dmp
  18.   C:\Users\Admin_\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-26754-0.sysdata.xml
  19.   C:\Users\Admin_\AppData\Local\Temp\WER706E.tmp.version.txt



Removed 4gb going to run it like this for a while then add another bar.

Code :
  1. OS Name    Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate
  2. Version    6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001
  3. Other OS Description     Not Available
  4. OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
  5. System Name    ADMIN
  6. System Manufacturer    MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
  7. System Model    MS-7512
  8. System Type    x64-based PC
  9. Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz, 2403 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
  10. BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. V1.0, 5/21/2008
  11. SMBIOS Version    2.5
  12. Windows Directory    C:\Windows
  13. System Directory    C:\Windows\system32
  14. Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume3
  15. Locale    United States
  16. Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "6.0.6001.18000"
  17. User Name    Admin\Admin_
  18. Time Zone    Eastern Daylight Time
  19. Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    4.00 GB
  20. Total Physical Memory    4.00 GB
  21. Available Physical Memory    2.94 GB
  22. Total Virtual Memory    8.17 GB
  23. Available Virtual Memory    7.04 GB
  24. Page File Space    4.29 GB
  25. Page File    C:\pagefile.sys



Can i run memtest from usb with boot from other device enabled?


Message edited by Ourselfish on 03-13-2009 at 02:58:20 AM
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