Gtx 275 vs. gtx 280

GTX275 is cheaper.
GTX280 is better.

And you'll need to get the case first since it won't fit in Dell cases.

I suggest a 4870 or GTX260 now and DX11 cards in the future.

The GTX 275 is about the same as a GTX 280. The 4890 is a bit higher and surpasses the GTX 280 at times and is out now. Either way the GTX 280 is not the way to go.

Then which would you choose? The 4890 or the gtx 275. I'm kinda don't want to have to deal with Ati's crappy drivers.

Save it for dx 11.....im sure they will surpass the cards out now plus be able to handle dx11 for the future.

The 280 is going to be phased out. ( I read that in the article," Nvidia Geforce GTX 275 Preview: A well timed Retaliatory Strike."

Im stuck on this question also but Im thinking either the 4870 (go crossfire with another), 4890 (crossfire with another), GTX 285 (SLi with another) or a GTX 295. I dont think I will go into DX11 right away. I will have this i7 gaming system for a while and wont upgrade for a few years.

things are changing maybe 2years ago ATI got less optimized drivers for games...nowadays is pretty even.... depends really on games u want to play

Why do people keep saying this? ATI drivers are just as bad as nVidia's. I would get the 4890 since it is out now and the GTX 275 is not.

GTX 280

Okay, to keep it simple, you should get the ATI 4890. It is better than the GTX 275 at the same price and its drivers are just as good. Where did you get the idea that ATI drivers were bad? Anyways, the GTX 280 is old stuff and is disappearing so stay away from that.

ggrrrr... I wish I had thought about DX11 cards before ordering my second GTX280 for SLI just 2 hours ago....

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I'd get the 275. It's cheaper and about the level of the 280, but with a little more shader power due to the slightly higher clocks I belive. It's pretty close to the 285 as it is. The only time the 280 will noticeably come out on top is in games where the 1GB of RAM will be utilized and the 275 will suffer slightly with it's 896MB of RAM. Also the 275 is made from a smaller process than the 280 so it uses less power.

get the gtx 280 as of today the bfg tech gtx 280 has a $120 instance savings on newegg making the card $259.99 with free shipping and it will out preform the 4890

Yeah but you could also overclock the 4890 and it either ties it or beats it in most benchmarks

and you could overclock a gtx 280, so your point is?

4890 CLOCKS HIGHER

And you have benchmarks comparing top clocked gtx 280 or 285 and 4890? I know you can clock the 4890 to higher freqs but how does the 4890 maxed out benchmarks number compared to 280 or 285 maxxed out. Thats like saying an amd cpu can clock higher than an intel cpu so it is faster. It is all how the cards use what they have and I would love to see true benchmarks with both cards or all 3 maxxed out.

yeah, but if the 4890 clocks higher then the gtx 280 before you overclock it, and it will not outperform the gtx in stock format, what makes you think that when both cards are over clocked that it will outperform it then.

you should stop pushing for the ati card just because you like ati, the OP didn't even ask about the 4890 he asked about the nvidia cards

the gtx 280 is better than the ati 4890 and that is it. and the one the OP asked about is now $259.99 at newegg, so the price for performance factor that ati fans always bring up is GONE in this conversation, he should buy the better card for the same money and it is the BFG Tech BFGEGTX2801024E GeForce GTX 280 for $10.00 more then the cheapest 4890

the gtx 275 has the same performance, read a review that is unbiased (i've seen reviews that put either card on top, depending on who wrote it) each card has it's high and low points equally, one is better at one game and the other is better at another, one is louder and the other runs hotter. one like hi screen res the other likes low res.

the 4890 beats the gtx 260 if that makes you happy

lets not make this a pointless debate of nvidia or ati

wait you are the OP
why debate it buy the one you want

A GTX 280 can not overclock well, ask L1qu1d for his results. A 4890 can overclock to roughly 910-950 Mhz on the clock and start matching the GTX 285, which is a heavily overclocked GTX 280. The 4890 can go farther still so it wins I suppose. That is all somewhat irrelevent since the 4890 has the same performance on stock as a GTX 280, with a few blow exchanged.

I'm not sure why GoldenEye and I got marked down, but our points were valid. The GTX 275 was not out at the time, the 4890 performs slightly better than a GTX 275, and either one is in the same performance bracket as a GTX 280. All this said, if the OP goes ATI then he can get another for crossfire later since he is getting a P45 motherboard.

The GTX 280 is old tech and does not even offer any extra performance over the GTX 275 and 4890, and the 4890 is still cheaper with MIR.

Or like how a Pentium 4 processor was overclocked to 7.1GHz a few years ago, but it still wont be faster than a Core2 Quad.


Between the GTX 275 and GTX 280: Go with the GTX 275, it offers MUCH better price/performance.
But between the 4890 and GTX 275: Go with the better deal (which right now is the 4890). So far they seem to be on par with performance, but the 4890 is slightly less costly.
Here is a good deal on the 4890: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

Two weeks ago i got an overclock BFGGTX280 for $249...

The 280 posted is 602MHZ core clock. For Price/performance basis the 4890 is better and it will consume less power.

4890 consumes more power.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/ATIH...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4890,2262...

All very true, but he has a 630W PSU, so that shouldnt pose a problem.

Understandable, was just commenting on someones remark that the 4890 consumes less power. I believe it is a great card and if he/she has a cf board he/she should not even think about nvidia.

gtx 280 ,easy overclock with EVGA GPU Voltage Tuner you get 700 Mhz Core Clock Speed, 2500 MHz Memory Clock Speed, end more then 155Gb Memory Bandwidth.
Gtx 275 standarnd has only 127Gb Memory Bandwidth

Get the GTX 275!!!

If I were you I would get the XFX GTX 275 XXX Edition (Factory OC), thats the card that I ended up getting after months of researching on what card to get, and oh boy am I glad I did my reasearch, It runs like a dream!! I cannot wait to see that babe in SLI  

If you care about your games having the best visuals... then go for a Nvidia GPU, but if you think that speed is everything then your best off following the ATI fanboys...

ATI card do have faster frame rates (at times), but not enough to make a differance, well not enough for the human eye to even notice... so thats why most people tend to go for ATI cards, because they go a ants fart bit faster.

But for the lose of like 1 or 2 FPS slower on a monster of a game like Crysis the nvidia cards really excell on the graphics quallity, in allmost every game nvidia's graphics quallity beats ATI's

but yes, to answare the question... Get the GTX 275, you will not be disapointed!