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Hi there.

I was thinking of upgrading my PC to 2 9600GT's in SLI.

I want to know whether this upgrade is going to be worthwhile and whether my cpu will bottleneck the setup?
Any help would be great.

PC Specs:
ASUS P5N-D
INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 @ 3.15Ghz
4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 @ 900Mhz
XFX 9600GT
250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor

Thanks.

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Doubt it. See your 9600 GT and get a GTX 260. It runs circles around dual sli'd 9600 GTs. And yo won't have to worry about SLI stutter, heat, or fan noise.

Reply to HundredIslandsBoy

HundredIslandsBoy wrote :

Doubt it. See your 9600 GT and get a GTX 260. It runs circles around dual sli'd 9600 GTs. And yo won't have to worry about SLI stutter, heat, or fan noise.


:pfff: No such thing.

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Reply to mousemonkey

Do you mean it's doesn't exist? Sli stutter is a myth then?

It's not the millisecond time differences between alternate frames being rendered by the two GPUs?

True some games you don't see it but I personally have experienced it on Crysis, both in single and multiplayer modes. After disabling SLI, the problem goes away.

Reply to HundredIslandsBoy

So i should get a GTX 260 instead of another 9600GT?

Hows this work?

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

HundredIslandsBoy wrote :

Do you mean it's doesn't exist? Sli stutter is a myth then?

It's not the millisecond time differences between alternate frames being rendered by the two GPUs?

True some games you don't see it but I personally have experienced it on Crysis, both in single and multiplayer modes. After disabling SLI, the problem goes away.


That's the problem right there, a badly coded pile of crap, not some so called 'micro stutter', I have been running an Sli set-up for over four years and two rigs and the first time I heard of this 'micro stutter' was when Crysis was released and now it's being bandied about by people such as yourself as something that affects all and everything SLI when it's only one piece of dross that is so 'ahead of it's time' that when the hardware that is supposedly able to handle it gets developed let alone produced and sold to the public no-one is going to care because it will be so old you will be laughed at for even mentioning it.

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Reply to mousemonkey

i never heard of that and frankly dont care, i know sli works fine as i have used it before.

So would my cpu bottleneck the setup or would it run fine?

Thanks.

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

jaye2992 wrote :

i never heard of that and frankly dont care, i know sli works fine as i have used it before.

So would my cpu bottleneck the setup or would it run fine?

Thanks.



i don't think that the cpu would be an issue,it's overclocked to a pretty high frequency so it should be able to handle the upgrade fine,of course a newer cpu would have higher core speed and more head room for over clocking but for gaming you would be fine with what you have it's your prerogative really

Reply to rooseveltdon

A GTX260 would be better than a pair of 9600GT's, then you would have a card for PhysX, yay!

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Reply to mousemonkey

Actually 2 9600 GTs would slightly outperform a GTX 260. 2 9600 GTs are very comparable to 2 8800 GTs, which falls in between the GTX 280 and GTX 285. For raw performance the 2 9600 GTs will do better and cost less. Also micro-stuttering is a very rare phenomenon that apparently only happens when someone uses an anti-mulitple GPU argument.


Message edited by The_Blood_Raven on 06-16-2009 at 04:39:48 PM
Reply to The_Blood_Raven

True, but then there's no card for the wonderment that is Physx :(, and the GTX is more current and shiny and may be easier to find now and SLI later.

P.S There was a bit of sarcasm in my last post and this one, not directed at the OP though.

Spoiler :

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_9600_gt_sli_performance/images/pf1280.gif

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Reply to mousemonkey

mousemonkey wrote :

That's the problem right there, a badly coded pile of crap, not some so called 'micro stutter', I have been running an Sli set-up for over four years and two rigs and the first time I heard of this 'micro stutter' was when Crysis was released and now it's being bandied about by people such as yourself as something that affects all and everything SLI when it's only one piece of dross that is so 'ahead of it's time' that when the hardware that is supposedly able to handle it gets developed let alone produced and sold to the public no-one is going to care because it will be so old you will be laughed at for even mentioning it.



I'll agree that Crysis isn't perfect. Obviously I'm disappointed with my SLI rig for a few reasons:

Too noisy and sucks up power (Go Green) when I'm only in 2D. I couldn't afford to build a stand alone SLI rig just for gaming and since we can't game 24/7 (some of us anyway) the thought of those two gaming cards not doing crap seems like a waste.

Everything else equal, my GTX 260 scores higher than my 2 9800 GTs. I paid $150 for the GTX 260 that I use on a non-sli mobo - less than $225 for both. Just for wanting to try sli, I paid over $350 for the 2 cards and mobo only to go "Huh?" after the single card beat 2 cards that cost more. Not to mention a bigger PSU too.

When I do game on the SLI, I have to set the fans to 90 sometimes 100 percent just to keep the GPU temps below 72 C. I'm thinking I'm killing the fans or the cards because side by side they're being punished by heat and I can't help but think I'm shortening their lifespan and they could have "lived" longer as single cards.

Realize this isn't focus on the OP. Sorry.

What do you think of this pseudo-scientific article about micro-stutter?






Reply to HundredIslandsBoy


Or it's a case of a rig with mismatched components.

Quote :

So with all that said I'll start things off with my rig:

Windows Vista Business x64

Intel e2180 @ 3.2 Ghz

6 gigs OCZ Platinum DDR2 @ 1 Ghz

XFX 680i LT

300 gig RAID-0 boot (one Seagate, one WD), 500 gig Seagate for storage

Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Value

Corsair HX1000

2x GTX 260 216-core (one EVGA, one BFG)

Nvidia 185.65 beta


How much onboard cache does that CPU have?, overclocking the crap out it is not going to compensate. There's an old adage from the drag racing world that sort of applies here "you can't beat cubes" or in this case onboard cache, if that rig was running an e8400, e8600 or a Q9550 or suchlike with those cards there would be no 'microstutter'

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Reply to mousemonkey
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Im with mousemonkey on this, my E8400@4.0Ghz with SLI 8800GT has never had anything like a 'microstutter' even in Crysis.

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Reply to B-Unit

does anybody know the answer to my question please?

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

You should be fine, you could also back off your OC a bit and still have no issues. I'm assuming that you know where you are getting the 9600GT from?

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Reply to mousemonkey

ye i do, why do you ask that?

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

I was a bit fearful that the next question was going to be "where can I get a 9600GT from?" :lol:

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Reply to mousemonkey

well i am buying one off my friend that is exactly the same as mine except from the cooler, so that should do the job

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

Shweeet, happy gaming dude. :)

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Reply to mousemonkey

thanks :D

Do you know anything about 'Asus P5N-D' motherboard by any chance?

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

No, I have not used an Asus board for years, sorry. :(

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Reply to mousemonkey

lol, ok thanks :)

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

Okay (white flag waving). I don't get micro stutter when I leave my e8400 on stock settings. BTW maybe your 680i is better made than my 750i and can handle double the fun of two GPUs going "my turn, your turn, my turn, your turn... " lol

As for the P5N-D, looking back I would get the 790i mobo. The P5N-D factory specs only goes to 1333 FSB although I have OC'd my e8400 to a 2000 FSB on it (8 X 500) and stable enough for benchmarks (3dMark06) but will crash on Crysis, CoH, CoD4 after 10 to 20 minutes. At 3.6 Ghz everything is rock or silicion substrate solid.

Reply to HundredIslandsBoy
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I have the same gpu in sli and the same cpu

It runs great, really smooth, above 60fps in almost every new game.

Reply to tomasf

i have my p5n-d on 1800mhz on low voltages and its very stable.

oooh great :) what do you have your e6550 overclocked too?

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992
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no, at stock speed

Reply to tomasf

ok dokie, you should overclock its easy and makes a good difference

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992
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I´d probably should!!

Reply to tomasf

just ask if you need an help lol

------------------------------ ASUS P5N-D | INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6550 2.33Ghz to 3.15Ghz | 4GB Corsair TwinX XMS2 800Mhz to 900Mhz | XFX 9600GT | 250GB Western Digital HD + 74GB Wetern Digital Raptor | ARTIC FREEZER 7 PRO | WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SP2 X64 | ATRIX GAMER CASE (CUSTOM MODDED)
Reply to jaye2992

HundredIslandsBoy wrote :

Okay (white flag waving). I don't get micro stutter when I leave my e8400 on stock settings. BTW maybe your 680i is better made than my 750i and can handle double the fun of two GPUs going "my turn, your turn, my turn, your turn... " lol

As for the P5N-D, looking back I would get the 790i mobo. The P5N-D factory specs only goes to 1333 FSB although I have OC'd my e8400 to a 2000 FSB on it (8 X 500) and stable enough for benchmarks (3dMark06) but will crash on Crysis, CoH, CoD4 after 10 to 20 minutes. At 3.6 Ghz everything is rock or silicion substrate solid.


No worries dude, and yes, my mobo was one of if not the most expensive 680i's here in the UK it was getting on for £400 when first released and I had to wait until the 790i was released before it came down to a price I was willing to pay, the build quality is top notch though and the main problem with the 680i boards was manufacturers skimping on the boards to offset the price they had to pay for the chipset, thus a lot of boards failed. Abit didn't but they went to the wall.

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