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[Solved] GA-M61PME-S2P 800MHz to 1066MHz

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I bought this Motherboard GA-M61PME-S2P a few months ago, On the motherboard's box it says in BIG BOLD and Colorful letters "DDR2-1066". So along with the board, I bought a Gold Edition 4GB DDR2-1066 (PC-8500) Memory Kit(2x2GB).

Later on i find out that it doesn't support 1066 even though it says it on the box, It even says "DDR2 1066" on the motherboard itself!!

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileLis [...] 2p_big.jpg

So right now my 1066 memory is running at 800.
I can't believe Gigabyte would mislead customers like that unless there Were some way you could bring it up to 1066. Is there a way to increase the voltage or settings to have my ram run at 533-1066 instead of 400-800?

My CPU is an AM2+ Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition

The ram specs are:

Voltage - 2.1
CAS Latency - 5
Latency - 5-6-6-18

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Might try one more thing. I noticed that OCZ cust support went thru the customer comments at Newegg and encouraged folks to contact them thru support and their own forums if they have problems. Here's the forum link:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/index.php

 

Here's an example of some replies (on the RAM I'm returning due to voltage issues) they recently made - scroll down or 2nd page:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227298

 

And they do offer a 1.8V 1066 product - might see if they'll swap ya:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227453

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have you tried changing the ram speed settings in the bios? What is the native bus speed of that cpu? Its nice to have the ram and cpu clocks running at 1 to 1 ratio.

Reply to DiscoDuck

The Bus speed is 200MHz and the multiplier is 13.5.

Which Ram settings do i need to change? I'm not sure what you mean by the 1 to 1 ratio.

Sorry, I'm not too familiar with overclocking.

Reply to columbusbobby23

I looked through the BIOS and there were not any options to change the voltage. I did find options to change the Memory settings(CAS latency,tRAS,tRC). Will those settings do anything to bring my RAM up to speed?

Reply to columbusbobby23

columbusbobby,

 

I ran into a similar problem with my new Gigabyte motherboard (GA-MA785GM-US2H) - and the problem isn't with the board but with the OCZ memory. I'm no expert on modern memory issues but here's what I've found out. I bought OCZ's "Platinum" 1066 DDR2.

 

If you notice the specs for the "Gold" you'll see it shows 2.1V as the requirement for it. Compare that to the Gigabyte manual/specs and you'll see its base voltage for RAM is 1.8V. From everything I've learned, if you don't run the memory at the voltage specs, it won't perform up to its own specs. This means no 1066 mode and maybe errors when its running like yours at 800.

 

My Gigabyte BIOS has a special section with all the "tweaks" to CPU, bus and RAM in one place, yours doesn't seem to. But under PC Health, you do have a line showing the RAM voltage and type [DDR2 1.8V] If there's really no way to up this voltage, I think you're stuck - this is not overclocking, just providing the proper needed specs.

 

My situation was similar. The OCZ specs for the Plat RAM show 2.1V-2.2V, but it really needs the 2.2V for 1066 mode. My board BIOS allows for RAM voltage control, but it's limited to adding 0.3V to the same 1.8V, leaving me at 2.1V and no 1066 mode.

 

I caught the problem right away and am RMAing the OCZ RAM and replacing it with Crucial's 1066 (CT2KIT25664AA1067) which has a native 1.8V requirement. I haven't gotten this in yet but will know whether it solves the issue late next week.

 

OCZ seems to be a favored brand around here but all their RAM in this category seems to need that higher voltage - and several threads in the forum discuss it and I made a new one warning of it. With the time that's passed, I'm not sure you have a good solution, likely too late to return it assuming you have the box, etc.. But it's worth a shot. If you got the RAM and board together, especially if they offered a bundle, you can show they weren't compatible. Worth trying for $60 or so.

 

I'm pretty sure this is your problem, good luck.


Message edited by mongox on 08-30-2009 at 11:08:33 PM
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Yes, I believe the voltage is my main problem, I think i just shorted myself when i bought a lower end motherboard. My motherboard can't support the HyperTransport speed of my CPU either. My CPU HyperTransport(Bus Speed) is 1800MHz(3600MT/s). With my motherboard only topping out at 1000MHz(2000MT/s). So it seems my motherboard is limiting me in more than one way.

I just can't believe that it said DDR2 1066 on the Box and DDR2 1066 on the Motherboard itself yet it doesn't send more than 1.8V to the RAM and has no way of upping the voltage in the BIOS. I did some pretty thorough research and it seems that VERY few sticks of DDR2 1066 RAM operate at 1.8V and with no way to increase it in the BIOS I'm pretty much stuck. I sent Gigabyte an e-mail about it and they say my board doesn't support 1066 RAM despite what their packaging says.


I will be much better off when i buy a new motherboard. I'm sorry to say that this will be the last motherboard i ever buy from Gigabyte, Due to their blatant false advertisement and deception. I'm going back to ASUS.

Thanks for your help and good luck to you as well

Reply to columbusbobby23

Here's a less than complimentary review/article about your board. It mentions the lack of RAM voltage adjustment.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/721

 

One thought, Gigabyte's EasyTune/Easy Energy software should allow you to adjust RAM voltage. Some don't like this software, but it's worth a shot. Regardless, you want to download and save all pages on your board at G's site - even if you don't plan to install it.


Message edited by mongox on 08-31-2009 at 05:26:15 AM
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That software actually comes with the board but it's incompatible with it. Every option in the program is grayed out.

Interesting article though.

Thanks

Reply to columbusbobby23
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Might try one more thing. I noticed that OCZ cust support went thru the customer comments at Newegg and encouraged folks to contact them thru support and their own forums if they have problems. Here's the forum link:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/index.php

 

Here's an example of some replies (on the RAM I'm returning due to voltage issues) they recently made - scroll down or 2nd page:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227298

 

And they do offer a 1.8V 1066 product - might see if they'll swap ya:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227453


Message edited by mongox on 09-01-2009 at 12:52:10 AM
Reply to mongox

I have heard good things about OCZ customer support. The way a company treats their customers can tell you a lot about the quality of the company and the products they sell. I was wondering since i can change the RAM timing setting's through my BIOS whether that would do any good. Or are those settings meaningless without being able to change the voltage, Any thoughts?

Reply to columbusbobby23

So, I guess they did make good on the RAM?

Reply to mongox

columbusbobby23 wrote :

Which Ram settings do i need to change? I'm not sure what you mean by the 1 to 1 ratio.

Sorry, I'm not too familiar with overclocking.

lol! That's an understatement. Better change to read "Sorry, I'm not too familiar with much at all." So your complaint basically went from "Gigabyte falsely advertises support for DDR2-1066" to "Oops, I guess I just don't have a clue what I'm doing."

Gigabyte even discloses the voltage requirement on its product specs and user manual:

"1.8V DDR2 DIMM sockets supporting up to 8GB of system memory" - GA-M61PME-S2P Product Specs and User Manual

There are numerous memory modules available that actually comply with the industry specifications (JEDEC) for DDR2 voltage of 1.8V ± 0.1V:

G.SKILL Trident 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

GeIL Green Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1100

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

OCZ Blade Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1150

You failed to make the right selection based on ignorance. Don't feel bad, though. Probably 90% of all complaints are user error or ignorance, so you're definitely in good company. If we could eliminate these types of complaints, consumer protection agencies would need to slash 90% of their budgets and employees. However, you should feel bad because, even after your own ignorance has become blatantly obvious to you (and to the entire world, BTW), you still refuse to accept responsibility and attempt to blame Gigabyte for your own ineptness.

We've all been there. I remember when - like you - I didn't know jack sh-t about computers and probably should not have been mucking around with computer components. But when I screwed up and my own ignorance was exposed to me, my response was "Oh man! I guess I should spend more time educating myself before taking on such a project or task. Obviously, I don't know 1/100th as much as I thought I did. I sincerely apologize to {insert company name here} for publicly accusing them of being wrong here, when the real problem was my own stupidity."

That's how people learn, because they start reading a LOT more and asking a LOT more questions - like this person - rather than assuming they already know it. I guess some people are bound for a lifetime of stupidity, eh?

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Message edited by tcsenter on 09-12-2009 at 09:05:39 AM
Reply to tcsenter

tcsenter wrote :

Obviously, I don't know 1/100th as much as I thought I did.




Well....I have been "Mucking" around since my 286SX33(If you even know what that is) when you were probably still in diapers. I say this because with that ridiculous post you have obviously shown your age to be that of a teenager who has serious anger issues stemming from his parents taking his allowance away.

I'm surprised that you took all of that time trying to educate me on how ignorant i am when you could have taken a fraction of that time to ACTUALLY READ all of the prior posts(Which you obviously failed to do!).

If you had you would have realized that my main beef with Gigabyte is that they clearly misrepresented there product. If they would have even put a tiny little Asterisk by that bold 1066DDR2 and told me in fine print at the bottom of the box to check for voltage requirements i would have made sure that i did.

I freely admit that in hindsight i should have checked the manual for the voltage limitations of the board. Lesson learned for me. Silly me for actually thinking that my 1066 RAM would work correctly with a board that says 1066DDR2.

The only thing that you accomplished with your post was to show everybody that you like to pretend as though you are superior to others. If that gives you some kind of a kick, Than by all means keep doing what you are doing. Just do it somewhere else. It's clear that you have a lot of growing up to do.

But just so that you know, The purpose for this site is to help your fellow computer enthusiasts. Not to call them ignorant and reiterate everything that has already been said by other users. Please feel free to respond if you have anything USEFUL to say. If not....Please don't <-----Thanks in advance

Yeah 1/100th sounds about right.

Reply to columbusbobby23

columbusbobby23 wrote :

Well....I have been "Mucking" around since my 286SX33 (If you even know what that is) when you were probably still in diapers.


All these years and you've clearly learned but a fraction of what I've learned in a fraction of the time. How sad is that for you?

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If you had you would have realized that my main beef with Gigabyte is that they clearly misrepresented there product. If they would have even put a tiny little Asterisk by that bold 1066DDR2 and told me in fine print at the bottom of the box to check for voltage requirements i would have made sure that i did.


I did read all the posts. Your complaint is that Gigabyte didn't hold you by the hand to ensure that you were aware of a caveat in PC memory market that has been common knowledge for over a decade now.

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Lesson learned for me. Silly me for actually thinking that my 1066 RAM would work correctly with a board that says 1066DDR2.


DDR2-1066 RAM which complies with industry standards will work fine in your board. Its only the DDR2-1066 RAM which VIOLATES the industry standards that won't work.

The real issue is that you were oblivious to the difference or even to the fact that there was memory available on the market which violates the industry standards. There are dozens upon dozens of similar caveats that go along with computer technology. Its not anyone's responsibility to spoon feed this information to you like a baby. If you don't know it, you have no business mucking around with computer components, period. These aren't microwaves that do not require assembly or technical knowledge. Man up or go home.

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Message edited by tcsenter on 09-12-2009 at 01:41:43 PM
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Its not anyone's responsibility to spoon feed this information to you like a baby.



It may not be "anyone's" responsibility - but it's certainly part of why this forum exists. If the forum was nothing but experts talking to hear themselves talk - as you are doing, then it would get boring very quickly.

I've been working professionally with computers since 1983 - only a hobbyist, user and programmer before that. The thing that made me popular in selling and supporting computers was that I didn't have the attitude that you exhibit here. It takes no brains to make a user/customer feel like a slug because they made a mistake. What makes you a good professional is adapting your knowledge to the user and then spoon-feeding it to them so that they understand.

This forum does this very well. I've commented on a wide variety of threads here, usually picking those out that didn't get answered right away because the poster didn't give enough information to get assistance. I answer those posts and draw out the info needed and sometimes can help. But I rely heavily upon the more knowledgable users of this forum. And I always try to point out that I'm not an expert on a subject but just trying to help.

Columbusbobby did nothing wrong with his original post. He expressed his frustration - but also included the info needed for others here to help him out. When he learned that there was a solution to his problem, he changed his outlook on the entire original subject. And he said "Any help would be greatly appreciated. "

That's the point of these forums, to give help to others. It's not to make fun of or criticize those who know less than you do.

Reply to mongox

tcsenter wrote :

Its not anyone's responsibility to spoon feed this information to you like a baby.


Then don't. But don't come in and crap on other people's threads.

Reply to randomizer

mongox wrote :

He expressed his frustration - but also included the info needed for others here to help him out. When he learned that there was a solution to his problem, he changed his outlook on the entire original subject.


No, he didn't. He continued to blame Gigabyte for failing to spoon feed him technical caveats he should have already known because it is resident in the technology and customary knowledge within the market or field:

"If you had you would have realized that my main beef with Gigabyte is that they clearly misrepresented there product."

We're not dealing with DVD players or televisions that are already assembled, where all the technical issues are already settled by someone else. We're dealing with electronic components that require appropriate selection, assembly, and configuration. This places a much higher burden of responsibility on the purchaser than would be expected of a consumer product, where all technical matters are already determined and solved by persons who know what they are doing.

Again, we've all been there. Its not that he was mistaken in his assumptions due to his own ignorance. Its that he refused to accept any responsibility for it and continued to blame someone else, even after he learned that his assumptions were mistaken due to his own ignorance. If anyone deserves blame other than himself, the memory module companies are responsible for failing to prominently disclose when their products do not comply with industry standards and won't work in many motherboards.


Message edited by tcsenter on 09-12-2009 at 03:52:48 PM
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