My first time building a system, heres wut i have in mind... possibl?

[replicat0r]

i got rid of my old laptop. which at the time when i bought it , i didntknow much bout the computer world. it cost me 1.2k(4yrs ago)

15 inch gateway
2.8g amd athlon x64
1g ram
100ghd
ati x600 mobility

now im getttin a new computer... i originally decided to get another gamin/multimedia laptop. b/c i can do those things and maybe take it to class to take notes.

then i realized that i NEVER took my old laptop to classes cause it was a beast(7.6lb) and the battery was ***(1h) . and i looked around. most gamin laptop are around 15 to 17inch. which is way too big to take notes on. and they cost alot of money . so im gonna build a desktop and then buy a netbook or somthin small to take notes on.

heres wut i have in mind.

a desktop that can:

gaming capablity(new games.. d3, sc2 , and fps shooters)
multimedia capablity(hd vid, remote control)

so obviously its gonna be 22-24inch monitor.
with room to upgrade(so a decent mobo) --> usb3 , windows 7.

my budget? around 1k.
(i got speaker+ mouse)

i have 3 month untill my current laptop is gone(already sold, buy is takin it with him in july)

so im gonna scour for deals around this time.

is this possible to do with 1k?

btw, might spend another 400 on a decent netbook for class(iphone doesnt type very well)

 

[fullmetall]

You can make a nice Quad machine or Dual core for that price.

i7 wouldn't be to possible or wouldnt be worth it.

Now if you like AMD, its an alternative for the i7. You can get the 720BE x3(tricore) or the 940BE x4(quadcore).

Intel is always my pick so ill get a list goin here
Do you prefer nvidia or ati before i start

 

[replicat0r]

tell you the truth. iam not really a fanboy of anything. lol

i dont really care as long as it gets the job done.

wutever will suit my need. is perfectly fine.

so i guess ill make it a bit more specific.

it will like half half btw multimedia and gamin(used to be a big time gamer, but i stopped... howver, i still wanna have a shot at the lastest games. lol)

but i wanna watch movies from my bed and just have a fast pc.


edit: btw why wouldnt i7 be worth it? i heard all the great things about i7 and how fast it is.lol
but i know its mad expensive..

 

[fullmetall]

Thats what i was saying, for 1k, it wouldn't be worth building, you would need that extra 400 for the notebook for the i7 build to work descent.

I'll spec out a Intel build, im sure Myck or thekid will spec out a amd build pretty fast or i will do both.

 

[fullmetall]

Intel:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137
RC-690 Case.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041
Q9550

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
WD HDD 640gb Black

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209
PI Black g.skills, back down i price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358
Gigabyte UD3P, opens you a spot for crossfire, if you dont want to, get a UD3R.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011
750w p&c for crossfire, if not, look at the 650tx.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
sapphire 4870 1gb.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
Windows vsta 64-bit home premium

LG DVD drive will run you another $17-$25.00 so, you could downgrade the Q9550 to a Q8200 and still get good performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115055
Q8200.


$1055 without the lg dvd drive and a Q9550.

$950.00 without the lg dvd and a Q8200.


Now you need to buy a new monitor to?

Sure you cold lower some stuff down on the rig and get a nice 22" for $179.99

Samsung 21.5

or

Asus 21.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236053

 

[Why_Me]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811129042 $59.95
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817341022 $79.99 ($59.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128380 $84.99
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115206 $114.99 Free Shipping*
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz 3MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835233001 $24.99 ($19.99 after $5.00 Mail-In Rebate)
XIGMATEK HDT-S963 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835233019 $8.49
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127421 $149.99 ($134.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate)
MSI N250GTS-2D1G-OC GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231209 $44.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136319 $79.99 Free Shipping*
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827136152 $24.99 Free Shipping*
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116488 $99.99 Free Shipping*
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020 $6.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236050 $169.99 ($149.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail

Total: $950.33 *(not including shipping and rebates)

 

[jjbtexas]

AMD Phenom II X4 940

Foxconn A7DA-S

Saphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB

Western Digital 640GB

Corsair 650TX

G.Skill 4gb

Windows Vista Home Premium

LG DVD drive

Thermaltake Element S

Also if you want to over clock i would get a good cpu cooler

The A7DA-S will also allow you to crossfire another 4870 in the future

 

[knotknut]

Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Full HD 1080P $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009157

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz/ GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-UD4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX Combo $288.99

R4850-512M OC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127401

4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
(I recomend this one is for 2 reasons. Upgrade later to 2xGPU and its only $5.00 more than my first choice.)

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

COOLER MASTER RC-690 $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

Total $810.93
Get your Keyboard local, Staples, Office Max etc. If there is a problem or you just dont like the action you can take it back. Look at the adds there are always some good deals.
If you need mo'betta Video card to start out with there is money left for that too.

Sorry, You need HDD and OS

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148395&Tpk=7200.12
These are the fastest drives in its class. No they are not involved with the 7200.11 problems.

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64 $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
32bit is the same price.

New Total $970.91

 

[bmuell]

Phenom II X4 and X3 is so much better price/performance than LGA 775 right now. (OK I exaggerated. It's just better).

Honestly, if you have a $1k+ budget, you should go i7. If not, go AMD.

Edit: the post above mine by knotknut is just about perfect. However, with your gaming intent in mind, I might go Tri Core Phenom II instead of X4 (I believe there is the same combo with the Gigabyte board), and then use the money saved to get an ATI HD 4870 1GB.

Here it is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.165024

That's $45 less and you only lose 1 core, which won't help in gaming. Clock speed is almost the same, and they both overclock extremely well.

That extra $45 will get you a more current video card. Namely, the 4870.

 

[Why_Me]

Phenom II X4 and X3 is so much better price/performance than LGA 775 right now.

Honestly, if you have a $1k+ budget, you should go i7. If not, go AMD.

So that's why Intel LGA 775 stomps AMD on all the reviews?

 

[bmuell]

So that's why Intel LGA 775 stomps AMD on all the reviews?

You completely missed my point. If you have more than $1k to spend, go i7. If you have less, (i.e. you are going for the best price/performance), AM2/AM2+ is the better platform.

For a LGA 775 system to beat a Phenom II you have to pay for a more expensive processor (e.g. Q9400 or Q9550). And my point is that if you have the extra money, might as well go i7.

 

[fullmetall]

AMD:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103649
x3 720BE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
wd black 640gb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209
PI Black

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011
crossfire later on, if not change to a 650tx - 750P&c

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128384
UD4H gigabyte

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
Sapphire 48701gb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
antec 300

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029
s1283v cooler, gonna need a compound like ARctic silver 5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
vista 64-bit.

Same price as the intel build.

 

[fullmetall]

on an X4 940 build, its basically the same price as the Q9550 build i put together and it barely compares to a Q9550..Intel build was a little over so i went with the 8200 and that was the same price as the x3 720 build

 

[bmuell]

on an X4 940 build, its basically the same price as the Q9550 build i put together and it barely compares to a Q9550..Intel build was a little over so i went with the 8200 and that was the same price as the x3 720 build

Let me get this straight. A Q9550 costs $275. An X4 940 costs $200, moreover it combos with a fantastic Gigabyte board for $50 in savings. What are you doing to make up this $125 difference?

Phenom II X4 940 > Q9400, which is $30 more expensive. X4 920 > Q8200, though the Q is about $15 cheaper. And the X3 performs just as well as the X4 in a number of scenarios, and is even cheaper.

 

[MykC]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032 LG DVD Drive $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319 WD 640GB AALS $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 Antec 300 $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010 OCZ 600W $70 - $20MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145590 4GB DDR2 800 $45 - $25 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125256 1GB 4870 $200 - $30 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.165025 Phenom II 720BE and Biostar 790GX $212

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=20&Description=&Type=&N=2010190020&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&PropertyCodeValue=1099%3A17843 Monitor is going to be $180 minimum
Base system cost $870 - $75MIR

Not sure if you need a copy of Windows...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488 Vista Home Premium 64-bit $99
If you need windows we are now at $970 - $75MIR, tax and shipping. After the dust clears your probably looking at being $25-50 under $1K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471 Upgrade to a Phenom II 940BE $48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003 Upgrade to a Xigma CPU Cooler $36 - $10MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020 Upgrade to Artic MX-2 Thermal Compound $7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137 Upgrade to a CM 690 Case $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128384 Upgrade to a Gigabyte 790GX-UD4H motherboard $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011 Upgrade to PCP&C 750W Red $45 (if you want to Xfire)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209 Upgrade to G.Skill PI Black DDR2 800 $25

I've organized the upgrades inorder of what I would consider best value to worst. Of course, depending your prefrences the order is up to you. If you don't need a OS then that frees up a good portion of the upgrades that would add the most value. With that said, I, like some others have posted an AMD based build which at this time feel that the AM2+ socket is more futureproof and has value than the current LGA 775 socket and CPUs combinations. However, you can't really go wrong either way, but if I were you and I were me, I would start with an AMD build.

edit: Its also possible to hold back on the GPU for now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102822 512MB 4830 $90 - $15MIR, this will save you $95, but you'll probably want to play at 1280x720 instead of 1920x1080.

 

[bmuell]

Succinct! Very helpful post, MykC.

 

[fullmetall]

Let me get this straight. A Q9550 costs $275. An X4 940 costs $200, moreover it combos with a fantastic Gigabyte board for $50 in savings. What are you doing to make up this $125 difference?

Phenom II X4 940 > Q9400, which is $30 more expensive. X4 920 > Q8200, though the Q is about $15 cheaper. And the X3 performs just as well as the X4 in a number of scenarios, and is even cheaper.

Sorry sorry, I just checked the cart list and it showed 2 quantities of motherboards and video cards, i hate it when it does that automatically.

 

[fullmetall]

There is a combo deal for the UD4H gigabyte and the x4 940.

 

[fullmetall]

So O.P, you could either go with a Q8200/E8500 Intel build or the x3 720/ x4 940 AMD Build

 

[bmuell]

There is a combo deal for the UD4H gigabyte and the x4 940.

Yeah MykC has that listed in his post as a possible upgrade to the Biostar. For another $30 you get a better brand, better customer support, and perhaps better stability. The value of that is going to depend on the buyer.

 

[replicat0r]

holy crap?

.........................

wow thats gonna take me like a day to decipher through...
grr
i was hoping to buy the component when they are on special sales... i hate MIR cause last time i pulled mir, i never got my money back.

i have 3 month to build my new system.

so wuts better... quad core or c2d?
i know that alot of games dont fully take advantage of quad core, but down the road, does quad have more potential or 3 core(x3 i guess)

and also i was hoping to squeeze the 24in monitor into my 1k budget. looks like that wont be happening...

and is it possible to have a gamin gfx card with like remote control?
im not too familier with that aspect.. is the remote control connected to the mobo? or the gfx card?

so i guess i should find deals on CPU + mobo 1st(lookin through everything posted here 1st..) cause thats the backbone rite?
then i look for a good gfx card.
then ram + case + psu?

then hdd,dvd roms, etc, then monitor?



Edit: ok after skiming through everything here.. seems like AMD have handsup on this one if i dont go i7.
also, i guess i want the 1920 x1080.

i bought my parents a dell setup bout a month ago. cost bout 600 bucks
with e8400, 160g hd. 4g ram and a 24in monitor, intergrated gfx card. the 1920 res looked really good. and i was able to run cod4 on med seting with intergrated card. i was surprised. lol

so i guess 1920 is superior then the 1280 especially if i wanna watch hd movies on it rite?

 

[knotknut]

Link Depot 15 ft. Ultra HDMI 1.3 Cable $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812189175

You will need one of these. The adaptor comes in the box with the Video card.

 

[bmuell]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032 LG DVD Drive $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319 WD 640GB AALS $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 Antec 300 $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010 OCZ 600W $70 - $20MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145590 4GB DDR2 800 $45 - $25 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125256 1GB 4870 $200 - $30 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.165025 Phenom II 720BE and Biostar 790GX $212

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=20&Description=&Type=&N=2010190020&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&PropertyCodeValue=1099%3A17843 Monitor is going to be $180 minimum
Base system cost $870 - $75MIR

Not sure if you need a copy of Windows...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488 Vista Home Premium 64-bit $99
If you need windows we are now at $970 - $75MIR, tax and shipping. After the dust clears your probably looking at being $25-50 under $1K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471 Upgrade to a Phenom II 940BE $48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003 Upgrade to a Xigma CPU Cooler $36 - $10MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020 Upgrade to Artic MX-2 Thermal Compound $7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137 Upgrade to a CM 690 Case $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128384 Upgrade to a Gigabyte 790GX-UD4H motherboard $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011 Upgrade to PCP&C 750W Red $45 (if you want to Xfire)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209 Upgrade to G.Skill PI Black DDR2 800 $25

I've organized the upgrades inorder of what I would consider best value to worst. Of course, depending your prefrences the order is up to you. If you don't need a OS then that frees up a good portion of the upgrades that would add the most value. With that said, I, like some others have posted an AMD based build which at this time feel that the AM2+ socket is more futureproof and has value than the current LGA 775 socket and CPUs combinations. However, you can't really go wrong either way, but if I were you and I were me, I would start with an AMD build.

edit: Its also possible to hold back on the GPU for now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102822 512MB 4830 $90 - $15MIR, this will save you $95, but you'll probably want to play at 1280x720 instead of 1920x1080.

Read this again. That is a very good build given your budget and intended use.

 

[knotknut]

Rebates are fine. Just follow the instructions exactly and have patience because some most of them will take months.

 

[replicat0r]

i wasnt expectin you guys to pull out the setup and the price listin this fast.im a part of RFD(red flag deals) and there are always deals on stuff. thats why i was askin if its possible to build with that money. thats why i said i got 3 month lol...


but say if i wait and startin buy stuff in like may-june(cause my laptop will be gone by july)
will i find deals to make the builder cheaper and have equal or better quality, cause we all know how fast components gets upgraded. would that be better?

or will it not make a difference when i buy? the price wouldnt change much? (<$50 change)