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November 6, 2010 10:57:26 PM

Hi, currently I just pieced together a system for the first time, yay me. I kind of jumped into it without thinking of all these other things and I figured id ask around the net to see if someone had some key advice for me as far as cooling goes. Oh, and pre apologies if I use any terminology incorrectly, I'm still new.

My current setup (assume everything I have that I can overclock, I plan to)
Chassis - Cooler Master Storm Scout
CPU - i7 950
GPU - 2x evga gtx470's superclocked version
RAM - G.skill PI series 12GB (6x2gb)
motherboard - Asus x58 sabertooth
PSU - Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000w
A HDD, SDD and a dvd drive

Currently, I have a H70 cooling my cpu and the stock fans for everything else. Will this case suffice with cooling and where should I look for more cooling options. I've read about the liquid cooling, but I don't think, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that I can get any sort of liquid cooling into my case. I do like this case, since I do LAN and enjoy having the stupid handle :D , but if I have to look into alternatives to keep this guy cool I will. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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November 6, 2010 11:39:58 PM

if you are a very crafty person. I think you could be able to put a water cooling system. How many Hard drives do you plan on having? How many CD rom drives do you have? I think we may be able to get you a good water cooling setup. :) 

BTW I have a water cooling setup in my NZXT tempest case which is a midtower with the room of a full tower to a certain extent. It's only wider.

also do you have a top fan?
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November 6, 2010 11:48:48 PM

blackpanther26 said:
if you are a very crafty person. I think you could be able to put a water cooling system. How many Hard drives do you plan on having? How many CD rom drives do you have? I think we may be able to get you a good water cooling setup. :) 

BTW I have a water cooling setup in my NZXT tempest case which is a midtower with the room of a full tower to a certain extent. It's only wider.

also do you have a top fan?

Thanks for the response! Currently, I have only 1 CD rom drive and 2 Hard drives, one being a standard hdd the other a solid state. I may drop another solid state into my PC and raid 0 it, but as far as the other hard drive is concerned, I'm not planning another. I may also get a Bluray drive, but I think I can just replace the old cd drive if that happens.

I do have a top fan, its the one that came with this case.

Thanks again!
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November 7, 2010 12:38:59 AM

For a little more than the cost of the H70, you could have got into a better entry level watercooling 'kit' the XSPC Rasa.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11743/ex-wat-159/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS240_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_Hot_Item.html
or
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12222/ex-wat-162/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS360_Universal_CPU_Triple_Radiator_Water_Cooling_Kit_Hot_Item.html

One is a 220 radiator; the other a 320 rad. Either would perform far better than the H70. But, that being said, you are probably fine with the H70 if you have decent fans and airflow...your choice.
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November 7, 2010 1:22:18 AM

rubix_1011 said:
For a little more than the cost of the H70, you could have got into a better entry level watercooling 'kit' the XSPC Rasa.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11743/ex-wat-159/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS240_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_Hot_Item.html
or
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12222/ex-wat-162/XSPC_Rasa_750_RS360_Universal_CPU_Triple_Radiator_Water_Cooling_Kit_Hot_Item.html

One is a 220 radiator; the other a 320 rad. Either would perform far better than the H70. But, that being said, you are probably fine with the H70 if you have decent fans and airflow...your choice.

My apologies. After reexamining my system, I realized I actually have a H50, not 70. TBQH I'm more than willing to return this thing and get a full on water cooling system for my pc, but I'm concerned about space as well as maintenance. How do I go about shoving all that stuff into my computer? Will I need to consider a new case?

Thanks again.
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November 7, 2010 1:59:03 AM

well like I said you can work around it. if you want an all internal case you may have to drill more holes but if you want you're radiator on the outside of the case you can do that as well. I had a dual 120mm radiator with a resivoir on the outside of my case. The only concern is if you use more than 1 displayport. But other than that it is duable to every case.

This is what you would use to mount a dual rad setup on the outside of your case. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2156/ex-rad-35/Swiftech_MCB-120_Revision_2_Radbox_RadiatorFan_Housing_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s162

if you want a lot of room then this rad is for you the first one is with the resivoir only the next one is with the pump mounted on the rad.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6571/ex-rad-126/Swiftech_MCR220_Quiet_Power_2_x_120mm_Radiator_w_Reservoir_MCR220-QP_Res.html?tl=g30c95s708

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10088/ex-rad-172/Swiftech_MCR220_Drive_Dual_120mm_Radiator_Reservoir_w_MCP35X_PWM_Pump_Combo_MCR220-Drive_Rev2.html?tl=g30c95s1076#blank

if you want a complete inercase WC set up then get this rad. let's say you want to mount the rad on top you can use the 140mm rad like in this link http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9017/ex-rad-156/Black_Ice_GT_Xtreme_140_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s929

or if you want it on the back you can go with the 120mm rad http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4061/ex-rad-80/Black_Ice_GT_Stealth_120_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s159

now CPU blocks.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7255/ex-blc-457/Koolance_CPU-340_Liquid_Cooling_CPU_Block_No_Fittings_.html?tl=g30c325s839 This block is universal.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9689/ex-blc-644/Danger_Den_MC-TDX_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Socket_LGA_1156_1366_i3_i5_i7.html?tl=g30c323s827 the block i have except mine is the MPC.

Now if you want internal PC you are going to need a pump and resivior

Pump
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7505/ex-pmp-64/Danger_Den_DD-CPX_Pro_12V_3_Pin_Powered_Pump_-_237_GPH_DD-CPX_Pro.html?tl=g30c107s155 this is the pump I have and it is very small.

Res
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8336/ex-res-144/Swiftech_MCRES_Micro_Rev_2_Small_Form_Factor_High-Flow_Reservoir_12_ID_and_38_ID.html?tl=g30c97s165 This is the res i have but when I got mine I found out the hard way. Make sure you buy threader for leak protection. my res leaked right where the fittings are. So do your self a favor and get threader like if you were to thread a pipe. It's very compact. Either that or go with a bay drive resivor.
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November 7, 2010 5:47:36 AM

blackpanther26 said:
well like I said you can work around it. if you want an all internal case you may have to drill more holes but if you want you're radiator on the outside of the case you can do that as well. I had a dual 120mm radiator with a resivoir on the outside of my case. The only concern is if you use more than 1 displayport. But other than that it is duable to every case.

This is what you would use to mount a dual rad setup on the outside of your case. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2156/ex-rad-35/Swiftech_MCB-120_Revision_2_Radbox_RadiatorFan_Housing_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s162

if you want a lot of room then this rad is for you the first one is with the resivoir only the next one is with the pump mounted on the rad.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6571/ex-rad-126/Swiftech_MCR220_Quiet_Power_2_x_120mm_Radiator_w_Reservoir_MCR220-QP_Res.html?tl=g30c95s708

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10088/ex-rad-172/Swiftech_MCR220_Drive_Dual_120mm_Radiator_Reservoir_w_MCP35X_PWM_Pump_Combo_MCR220-Drive_Rev2.html?tl=g30c95s1076#blank

if you want a complete inercase WC set up then get this rad. let's say you want to mount the rad on top you can use the 140mm rad like in this link http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9017/ex-rad-156/Black_Ice_GT_Xtreme_140_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s929

or if you want it on the back you can go with the 120mm rad http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4061/ex-rad-80/Black_Ice_GT_Stealth_120_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s159

now CPU blocks.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7255/ex-blc-457/Koolance_CPU-340_Liquid_Cooling_CPU_Block_No_Fittings_.html?tl=g30c325s839 This block is universal.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9689/ex-blc-644/Danger_Den_MC-TDX_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Socket_LGA_1156_1366_i3_i5_i7.html?tl=g30c323s827 the block i have except mine is the MPC.

Now if you want internal PC you are going to need a pump and resivior

Pump
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7505/ex-pmp-64/Danger_Den_DD-CPX_Pro_12V_3_Pin_Powered_Pump_-_237_GPH_DD-CPX_Pro.html?tl=g30c107s155 this is the pump I have and it is very small.

Res
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8336/ex-res-144/Swiftech_MCRES_Micro_Rev_2_Small_Form_Factor_High-Flow_Reservoir_12_ID_and_38_ID.html?tl=g30c97s165 This is the res i have but when I got mine I found out the hard way. Make sure you buy threader for leak protection. my res leaked right where the fittings are. So do your self a favor and get threader like if you were to thread a pipe. It's very compact. Either that or go with a bay drive resivor.

Thanks Blackpanther2! Just to ask, the rad is short for radiator right? also i noticed you linked cpu coolers, but my intention for cooling is centered around the gpu, since im already using that H50, but It doesnt seem to be a good one haha. Will I benefit more from using that radiator for both my GPU and CPU or should i just shove in a LC system to take care of the GPU's and save myself some money? Bleh decisions decisions =/

Thanks for all the links. Looks like you opened up a whole new world I didnt know about haha
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November 7, 2010 6:15:32 AM

Oh another question. If I wire my entire system with liquid cooling inside, how movable is it? I do use this computer for LAN events and would run into some severe problems if my computer can't take a little bit of movement. Would liquid cooling suffice for only non-moving pc's?
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November 7, 2010 6:35:01 AM

well in this case you could use somthing called a dual loop setup where you run two pumps two rads and two resivoirs somthing very duable in almost every mid ATX tower. Like I found this res http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11651/ex-res-243/EK_Dual_Loop_Dual_Bay_SPIN_Reservoir_w_Flow_Meters_-_Black_Acetal_EK-BAY_Spin_RES_DUAL_Loop_-_Black_Acetal.html?tl=g30c97s165

no it should have no effect if you have taken all the tests like an 6 to 8 hour leak test before you plug in the motherboard to the PSU. It will be a little bit heavier than what you have now. Just think. You allready have a liquid cooled CPU so is it movable? yes.

GPU block if you want to save time and don't really care about cost this is a good choice. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10912/ex-blc-744/Koolance_VID-NX470_NVIDIA_GTX_470_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_No_Fittings.html?tl=g30c311s1174

now the cheapes way is to get a universal GPU block.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11020/ex-blc-770/Swiftech_MCW80_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_NVIDIA_GeForce_ATI_Radeon.html?tl=g30c357s925

now you can get a full plated heatsink

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11674/ex-blc-812/Swiftech_GTX_470-HS_Full_Coverage_Heatsink_-_GeForce_GTX470.html?tl=g30c357s925

before you get into Water cooling make sure you read enough guides to help you out, or visit youtube and search water cooling.
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November 8, 2010 6:59:08 AM

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a c 324 K Overclocking
November 8, 2010 1:01:09 PM

My system is pretty heavy, but I run a lot of water in mine. Regardless, 'movable' is relative similar to 'loud fans' for most people. It what it is... I take my rig to LANs, but I don't go as often as I used to; regardless, a well-built WC loop should be just fine to move, just be cautious with external tubing or anything mounted outside the case.
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