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Hi there I am looking to build my self new gaming PC and I am not shore to go for Intel or AMD processors. Just to let you know the graphics card I want to go for is new HD6870 from ATI. Can you give me any advice?
Kind regards.
Zak.

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Are you going to overclock? If you are, I think the i7 870 or 875k is pretty good. If you want X58 motherboard, then I'd suggest the 920 and overclock it. The AMD Phenom II X6 is a 6 core processor, and it is fairly cheap, but I don't know too much about it. I've watch several videos and read reviews of HD6870, they say that this card is suppose to replace the current HD5770 or 5830. If you are looking for a high end gaming graphics card, I'd say you wait for the 69xx series to come out, or you could purchase one of the 58xx or even 5970. Just so you know, if you are going to overclock, purchase a better cooling system for the CPU. The stock fan sucks, and it is going to get you no where for overclocking.

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Check out AMDs Phenom II X2s they are uber quick, i got one :3 and cheap too mine was around 80bucks. The X3s or X4s are also great. If you want your system to be the sh*t than get a X6. They are fairly cheap. Pasta815tim http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103849 thats a X6 BE with the unlocked multiplier. Basically if you want power and value get AMD, if your more into spending more money (around $1000) on the same performance as a AMD 6X get a Intel, but i can assure you that you will be happy with AMD. Usually AMDs have more features and run cooler, my OCed (3.5 vs 3.1) Phenom II idles 17-25 and full load 35-40 with a cheap Rosewill cooler.

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This +100 lol.

Really depends on your budget and all that, but IMO the best performer at a solid price is the i5 760 from Intel. AMD Phenom's are cheaper but technically a little slower. If you need to budget, AMD is totally fine. If you can afford it, get the i5. You definitely don't need an i7 870 or 875k... those are hyper threaded quad cores and on the P55 platform you're not going to gain much benefit from them in gaming. If you want an i7 better to go with the 930 or 950 on the X58 platform because you get more PCIe lanes and some other small benefits. However, that's a pricier set up and ultimately not all that beneficial on single or even most dual GPU set ups compared to the P55 system.

Reply to wolfram23

Its all down to budget I wouldn't think an AMD Phenom x 4 955BE would bottle neck the card and AMD motherboards are much better value. An intel 750/760 would give you a bit more performance, I would pay more than the 760 though as you would get little or no performance advantage for gaming unless you are looking to add a second 6870 later in which case the intel I7 930/950 may be a better option. If your budget is tighter you could consider Athlon x3 or x4 processors as new games are much more GPU rather than CPU intensive.

Reply to simon12

I was about to mention a Phenom X3 or X4. Im going to upgrade eventually too.

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

^You could most likely sit a 445 in your board Notsonoob, and push that 5770 to 950/1300, budget boost :)
same advice to Op, triplecore and a 5770 upwards, cheap good gaming rigs with a possibility of a quadcore with unlock if your lucky
Moto

------------------------------ Once you start watercooling, you are almost automatically inducted into the modding circles as well, because theres rarely a 'from the box, fits everyone' solution, its your ingenuity and resourcefulness that makes it all happen,
Reply to motopsychojdn

If you can afford it the quad core Core i5 750 or 760 are absolutely amazing gaming processors. Don't get a dual core. It may be okay today but in a year you will really be missing the other 2 cores. Check out this article here on Tom's Hardware. It should give you an idea of what is the best for the amount of money you are willing to spend. http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2772.html

 

Here are the i5s

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

 

You can also use this to compare CPUs to each other.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2


Message edited by Andon48 on 11-09-2010 at 09:05:16 PM
------------------------------ i5 760 @ 4.0 | CM HYPER 212+ | W7 ULTIMATE X64 | ASROCK P55 EXTREME | 8GB DDR3 1600 7-8-8-20 1T | PNY GTX 470 (FULLY UNLOCKED 465) 830/1700 | 1TB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT F3 | MODDED ANTEC 300 | 1000W KINGWIN LAZER |
Reply to Andon48

@moto, 445? I was looking at a 740 Phenom II because of the L3 cache. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/83?vs=97 this benchmark makes me think otherwise. I have the cash to upgrade but is 1 more core really worth it? Unlocking seems to be fairly common though. I have been looking at this hot thing for a while http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103699 i have a aftermarket CPU cooler so i will just move it all over.


Message edited by notsonoobPCguy on 11-09-2010 at 09:47:19 PM
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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

For gaming three cores is pretty much all you need atm, but if budgets no restriction theres no real reason not to go quad, I was just working on cheap fast solutions is all :)
Moto

------------------------------ Once you start watercooling, you are almost automatically inducted into the modding circles as well, because theres rarely a 'from the box, fits everyone' solution, its your ingenuity and resourcefulness that makes it all happen,
Reply to motopsychojdn

Im looking for under $100 maybe the poster is too but that CPU that i listed is OEM so its a lil cheaper and at 3.0ghz thats a quick 3 core. AND its black edition which means that OCing is as easy as turning up the multiplier till your PC doesnt boot & or isnt stable.

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

If you're buying from Newegg, the X4 955BE is down to $153 now; that's hard to beat.

 

For $89, the X3 740BE looks great too, except that you'll need to spend another $20-$50 on a HSF to go with it.
Edit: And yes, you said you have a HSF, but the OP, who's thread this is, has not said he has a HSF he can re-use.


Message edited by jtt283 on 11-09-2010 at 10:10:41 PM
Reply to jtt283

Eh, i think i might just try my luck and unlock the 4th core. Someone on Newegg said they unlocked with EXACLY the same setup i have, i know its more dependent on what batch you get but atleast they had the same stuff. I already have my own "HSF" if you mean heatsink+fan, its some Rosewill copper base thing, not half bad for 15 bucks keeps my stuff cool.


Message edited by notsonoobPCguy on 11-09-2010 at 10:10:49 PM
------------------------------ Rig-Msi 870 GM mobo- AMD Phenom II X4 940 @3.3Ghz- ATi 5770 Core @900MHz RAM @1300MHz-5 Gigs of G.Skill DDR3 1333- WD 250GB Boot HDD 7200RPM- WD Green Drive 1TB 5400RPM- Sony DVD/CD drive- 400W Corsair PSU- Custom wood Case-20" LCD- 20" AOC LED Backlit
Reply to notsonoobPCguy

I'm an AMD fanboy as well and I feel like while their processors don't have nearly the top end the Intel chips do, you get more bang for your buck. Not much point for gaming to get a 6-core chip like the 1090t or 1055... I'd say an Phenom II x4 970 BE would do you proud. Cost you around $50 less than the 1090T too.
You can check some benchmarks on multiple chips here:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

Reply to gsgoody

A 1055 would be future proof OCed though :3

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

notsonoobPCguy wrote :

A 1055 would be future proof OCed though :3



True, plus you can feel good about saying you have a six core chip! Definitely adds some sex appeal to your build...

Reply to gsgoody

@gsgoody Ha "sex appeal" if your mate even knows what 6 core means. Anyways if the OP can spend the money the X6 BE is totally worth it. And it would work well with the 6870 he was thinking about getting. Or if hes on a budget than a X4 955BE would be cool too. Sub $80 could get you a cheap but still quick Phenom X2.

------------------------------ Rig-Msi 870 GM mobo- AMD Phenom II X4 940 @3.3Ghz- ATi 5770 Core @900MHz RAM @1300MHz-5 Gigs of G.Skill DDR3 1333- WD 250GB Boot HDD 7200RPM- WD Green Drive 1TB 5400RPM- Sony DVD/CD drive- 400W Corsair PSU- Custom wood Case-20" LCD- 20" AOC LED Backlit
Reply to notsonoobPCguy

notsonoobPCguy wrote :

@gsgoody Ha "sex appeal" if your mate even knows what 6 core means.



Okay, maybe "nerd appeal" is more appropriate.

Reply to gsgoody

I wonder when the OP will get back to us :-/ We have tons of good suggestions. @gsgoody yea that would probably fit better :D

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Anonymous wrote :

Hi there I am looking to build my self new gaming PC and I am not shore to go for Intel or AMD processors. Just to let you know the graphics card I want to go for is new HD6870 from ATI. Can you give me any advice?
Kind regards.
Zak.



Spec for Best Gaming 2010
Poc : Intel Core i7 975 extreme or ( above may be 100core 2015)
mobo: Asus Rampag II Extreme / Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme
RAM : Corsair Dominator
Cooler : Noctua/Sunbeam/silver arrow/spire thermax/shynte
HDD System : SSD Corsair 160Gb
PSU : Corsair 1050W (enough for Crossfire 4x HD6870)
HDD DATA : WDC Velociraptor 12000RPM 2TB :o
Casing : artistic Made by self from Acryllic, gold
interesting...?




Reply to henydiah

Ha doubt those 12000RPM 2tb drives will last, i noticed after having 2 1tb 7200RPM drives die on me that fast big capacity drives don't last long. I got a 5400RPM 1tb now and its been working for a while.

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

for under $100 I'd go with the Phenom II X3 715, or 740 from newegg and this if you are into overclocking http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] 223&sr=8-1 or this if you want to leave it at stock. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835200014 Do not get an Athlon processor. The missing L3 cache really hurts when it comes to gaming.


Message edited by Andon48 on 11-10-2010 at 08:33:40 PM
------------------------------ i5 760 @ 4.0 | CM HYPER 212+ | W7 ULTIMATE X64 | ASROCK P55 EXTREME | 8GB DDR3 1600 7-8-8-20 1T | PNY GTX 470 (FULLY UNLOCKED 465) 830/1700 | 1TB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT F3 | MODDED ANTEC 300 | 1000W KINGWIN LAZER |
Reply to Andon48

I have to disagree with you Andon the L3 cache doesn't make a huge difference at all its not worth losing a core. More and more games will use 4 cores (all DX11 games can use 4 cores) and that will make the difference. not gaming- http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 416-8.html gaming- http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 416-6.html im not sure why L4D likes L3 but it does. And that Rosewill HSF does not compare to the stock, its MUCH better than the one i got from AMD and it cools great too.


Message edited by notsonoobPCguy on 11-10-2010 at 09:09:26 PM
------------------------------ Rig-Msi 870 GM mobo- AMD Phenom II X4 940 @3.3Ghz- ATi 5770 Core @900MHz RAM @1300MHz-5 Gigs of G.Skill DDR3 1333- WD 250GB Boot HDD 7200RPM- WD Green Drive 1TB 5400RPM- Sony DVD/CD drive- 400W Corsair PSU- Custom wood Case-20" LCD- 20" AOC LED Backlit
Reply to notsonoobPCguy

notsonoobpcguy- I know Far Cry 2 is hurt by it (about 10% performance loss) and L4D as you said, so that makes me wonder what games that haven't been benchmarked or aren't released yet will be hurt by it too. I guess I'm just saying I wouldn't want to give up that much performance and take a gamble on it when you can get a Phenom II in the same price range. I did word it wrong though, the L3 doesn't make a huge difference. And that heatsink is the best cheap heatsink I could find since the PII X3s are all OEM chips on Newegg's site and don't come with a heatsink.

------------------------------ i5 760 @ 4.0 | CM HYPER 212+ | W7 ULTIMATE X64 | ASROCK P55 EXTREME | 8GB DDR3 1600 7-8-8-20 1T | PNY GTX 470 (FULLY UNLOCKED 465) 830/1700 | 1TB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT F3 | MODDED ANTEC 300 | 1000W KINGWIN LAZER |
Reply to Andon48

Not to add to the thread-jack, but I've got a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus that's sat on a shelf for months waiting for a good use; that day has arrived. I've got a 740BE coming in that I hope to unlock and OC somewhat more than I usually push a CPU. Whether it unlocks or not, it should still be a good gaming processor.
@OP, if multiple GPUs are in your future, you will probably need the performance of an Intel CPU, perhaps a 930 or 950. Otherwise, either the 740BE or 955BE look like they live at the price/performance Max. Either can be overclocked to the same level as their more expensive brothers, and the hexa-cores don't appear to add any real value for gaming.

Reply to jtt283

Hey jtt283 send me along a message when if you can get the 740BE unlocked, im still going back and forth between that and a Athlon X4 640. @Andon I might just end up getting a Phenom II X3 if jtt283 can unlock to X4 and if i can than thats a double win, i get four cores and L3 cache. But i will need another heatsink, im planning on building a HTPC with all my left over parts :3

------------------------------ Rig-Msi 870 GM mobo- AMD Phenom II X4 940 @3.3Ghz- ATi 5770 Core @900MHz RAM @1300MHz-5 Gigs of G.Skill DDR3 1333- WD 250GB Boot HDD 7200RPM- WD Green Drive 1TB 5400RPM- Sony DVD/CD drive- 400W Corsair PSU- Custom wood Case-20" LCD- 20" AOC LED Backlit
Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Ok, I'll try to remember to do that. The parts aren't here yet (UPS showed "out for delivery" this morning!) but the earliest I'd have time to build is probably Saturday.

Reply to jtt283

Coolieo that should be before i order :3 I hate waiting for things from UPS.

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

I dunno, phenom x4 965, sandy bridge, i5-760/LGA1156, i7-950/LGA1366, amd phenom x6 1055... i'm tired right now so i just give that list.

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Reply to andrern2000

too many procie make confuse, sick a head :pt1cable: depend on money & he want it :lol:

Reply to henydiah

He needs to tell us his budget. Without that we are all just peeing into the wind.


Message edited by Andon48 on 11-11-2010 at 03:24:53 PM
------------------------------ i5 760 @ 4.0 | CM HYPER 212+ | W7 ULTIMATE X64 | ASROCK P55 EXTREME | 8GB DDR3 1600 7-8-8-20 1T | PNY GTX 470 (FULLY UNLOCKED 465) 830/1700 | 1TB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT F3 | MODDED ANTEC 300 | 1000W KINGWIN LAZER |
Reply to Andon48

Lol nice metaphor :3

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Wait for sandy bridge!!!!!!

that stuff will pwn in gaming performance on i5's and i7's i believe it's on i7's correct me if im wrong.

Reply to cinnaman

Whats the heck is sandy bridge?

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Like a causeway but with sand on it mostly......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy [...] hitecture)

what a geek gets after being face-planted on the beach

take your pick :)
Moto

------------------------------ Once you start watercooling, you are almost automatically inducted into the modding circles as well, because theres rarely a 'from the box, fits everyone' solution, its your ingenuity and resourcefulness that makes it all happen,
Reply to motopsychojdn

Sandy Bridge isn't that great. The biggest benefit is that it has awesome integrated graphics, but the biggest draw back is you can't OC them much. Unless you go with a pricey "K" model, current i5 and i7s will be able to OC much higher than Sandy Bridge. Ivy Bridge, whevener that comes out, might be better tho. I'm only excited for Sandy Bridge to see what it does to the laptop market.

Reply to wolfram23

Yea i did a little research and yea its just integrated graphics on steroids, not a big deal, the laptop market as Wolfram23 mentioned should be interesting though.

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Parts are here. System should wake up some time tomorrow.

Reply to jtt283

What kinda mobo do you have jtt283? Im using a 870-G45 right now by MSI

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

The mobo is the ASRock 870iCafe. I would not have paid full price for it (see the review at HardwareSecrets), but when they put it on eBay, I found it worth a bid, and got it for a mere $35+shipping.

Reply to jtt283

Cool we have the same chip set :3 so you got eh X3 740 right?

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Yes, X3 740; unlocked to X4. It "feels" faster than the Q9450 it is replacing, but mostly due to the 120GB G.Skill SSD...

Reply to jtt283

^You replaced a quad core Intel with a tri-core AMD? Hm... okay.

Reply to wolfram23

Thats fantastic news, i will be buying a X3 740 SUPER soon. Thanks for kinda testing that out for me jtt283. Also how is OCing? Does your mobo still recognize it as a black edition CPU? @wolfram23 Well im sure that even leaving the unlocked X3 Phenom is faster than his Q9450 stock.

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Quote :

? @wolfram23 Well im sure that even leaving the unlocked X3 Phenom is faster than his Q9450 stock.



Ummm no. Current AMD processors are just a bit slower than Core2 clock for clock.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 772-6.html


Message edited by anort3 on 11-15-2010 at 06:45:28 AM
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Reply to anort3

Looking at that chart the Q9450 stacks up to a Phenon II X4 which he UNLOCKED his X3 to, sorry i wasn't exactly clear on that :p Not to hate on Intel but why their CPUs so darn expensive? For something the speed of what i bought i would of had to spend 20 to 30+ dollars more. Also the X6 is a big smack in Intel's face who needs to spend 1000+ bucks on a Intel core when even the $190 X6 is faster than a i7 975 at 3.33ghz?

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Reply to notsonoobPCguy

Hate to tell you but in most things real world ( non synthetic ) the i5 750/760 at $200 smacks around the 6 core Thuban. X6 is faster than a i7 975 ??????? Not even close. You overclock the i5 750 to 4ghz it beats the 1090T all day long and unlike the AMD processor does not hit a wall at 3.6/3.8 where it stops scaling. I am no fan boy either way but for sheer speed Intel owns AMD. AMD is stuck with processors slower than Core2........Core2 came out in 2006.

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Reply to anort3

Even my Phenom X2 550 is faster than most C2Ds, ok i overstated the 1090T its actually about as fast as a i7 920 or 860. Anyways i find its hard to "rate" CPUs, sure there are of course general areas like X2, X3, X4 and either Phenom or Athlon but it all ends up at how you think the game/program performs. Everything is coded/written differently there is no one way to just say one CPU is faster than another if its compared to other in the same general performance, some games prefer higher clock speeds (Fallout 3) others like more cores (GTA IV) its just all up to how much money your willing to spend and how it performs to you. To me a X4 at $80 sounds like a steal considering that some X4s are in i7 range depending on what game.

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