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November 8, 2010 5:42:55 PM

Hi there I am looking to build my self new gaming PC and I am not shore to go for Intel or AMD processors. Just to let you know the graphics card I want to go for is new HD6870 from ATI. Can you give me any advice?
Kind regards.
Zak.

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November 8, 2010 10:25:24 PM

Are you going to overclock? If you are, I think the i7 870 or 875k is pretty good. If you want X58 motherboard, then I'd suggest the 920 and overclock it. The AMD Phenom II X6 is a 6 core processor, and it is fairly cheap, but I don't know too much about it. I've watch several videos and read reviews of HD6870, they say that this card is suppose to replace the current HD5770 or 5830. If you are looking for a high end gaming graphics card, I'd say you wait for the 69xx series to come out, or you could purchase one of the 58xx or even 5970. Just so you know, if you are going to overclock, purchase a better cooling system for the CPU. The stock fan sucks, and it is going to get you no where for overclocking.
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November 9, 2010 2:06:00 AM

Check out AMDs Phenom II X2s they are uber quick, i got one :3 and cheap too mine was around 80bucks. The X3s or X4s are also great. If you want your system to be the sh*t than get a X6. They are fairly cheap. Pasta815tim http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... thats a X6 BE with the unlocked multiplier. Basically if you want power and value get AMD, if your more into spending more money (around $1000) on the same performance as a AMD 6X get a Intel, but i can assure you that you will be happy with AMD. Usually AMDs have more features and run cooler, my OCed (3.5 vs 3.1) Phenom II idles 17-25 and full load 35-40 with a cheap Rosewill cooler.
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November 9, 2010 3:00:35 AM



This +100 lol.

Really depends on your budget and all that, but IMO the best performer at a solid price is the i5 760 from Intel. AMD Phenom's are cheaper but technically a little slower. If you need to budget, AMD is totally fine. If you can afford it, get the i5. You definitely don't need an i7 870 or 875k... those are hyper threaded quad cores and on the P55 platform you're not going to gain much benefit from them in gaming. If you want an i7 better to go with the 930 or 950 on the X58 platform because you get more PCIe lanes and some other small benefits. However, that's a pricier set up and ultimately not all that beneficial on single or even most dual GPU set ups compared to the P55 system.
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November 9, 2010 10:06:09 AM

Its all down to budget I wouldn't think an AMD Phenom x 4 955BE would bottle neck the card and AMD motherboards are much better value. An intel 750/760 would give you a bit more performance, I would pay more than the 760 though as you would get little or no performance advantage for gaming unless you are looking to add a second 6870 later in which case the intel I7 930/950 may be a better option. If your budget is tighter you could consider Athlon x3 or x4 processors as new games are much more GPU rather than CPU intensive.
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November 9, 2010 1:21:46 PM

I was about to mention a Phenom X3 or X4. Im going to upgrade eventually too.
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November 9, 2010 3:36:58 PM

^You could most likely sit a 445 in your board Notsonoob, and push that 5770 to 950/1300, budget boost :) 
same advice to Op, triplecore and a 5770 upwards, cheap good gaming rigs with a possibility of a quadcore with unlock if your lucky
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November 9, 2010 6:03:08 PM

If you can afford it the quad core Core i5 750 or 760 are absolutely amazing gaming processors. Don't get a dual core. It may be okay today but in a year you will really be missing the other 2 cores. Check out this article here on Tom's Hardware. It should give you an idea of what is the best for the amount of money you are willing to spend. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-overcloc...

Here are the i5s

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can also use this to compare CPUs to each other.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2
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November 9, 2010 6:52:47 PM

For gaming three cores is pretty much all you need atm, but if budgets no restriction theres no real reason not to go quad, I was just working on cheap fast solutions is all :) 
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November 9, 2010 7:05:47 PM

Im looking for under $100 maybe the poster is too but that CPU that i listed is OEM so its a lil cheaper and at 3.0ghz thats a quick 3 core. AND its black edition which means that OCing is as easy as turning up the multiplier till your PC doesnt boot & or isnt stable.
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November 9, 2010 7:08:00 PM

If you're buying from Newegg, the X4 955BE is down to $153 now; that's hard to beat.

For $89, the X3 740BE looks great too, except that you'll need to spend another $20-$50 on a HSF to go with it.
Edit: And yes, you said you have a HSF, but the OP, who's thread this is, has not said he has a HSF he can re-use.
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November 9, 2010 7:09:25 PM

Eh, i think i might just try my luck and unlock the 4th core. Someone on Newegg said they unlocked with EXACLY the same setup i have, i know its more dependent on what batch you get but atleast they had the same stuff. I already have my own "HSF" if you mean heatsink+fan, its some Rosewill copper base thing, not half bad for 15 bucks keeps my stuff cool.
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November 9, 2010 7:30:00 PM

I'm an AMD fanboy as well and I feel like while their processors don't have nearly the top end the Intel chips do, you get more bang for your buck. Not much point for gaming to get a 6-core chip like the 1090t or 1055... I'd say an Phenom II x4 970 BE would do you proud. Cost you around $50 less than the 1090T too.
You can check some benchmarks on multiple chips here:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2
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November 9, 2010 7:42:24 PM

A 1055 would be future proof OCed though :3
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November 9, 2010 8:04:05 PM

notsonoobPCguy said:
A 1055 would be future proof OCed though :3


True, plus you can feel good about saying you have a six core chip! Definitely adds some sex appeal to your build...
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November 9, 2010 8:15:23 PM

Thread-jacked lol...
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November 9, 2010 8:17:46 PM

@gsgoody Ha "sex appeal" if your mate even knows what 6 core means. Anyways if the OP can spend the money the X6 BE is totally worth it. And it would work well with the 6870 he was thinking about getting. Or if hes on a budget than a X4 955BE would be cool too. Sub $80 could get you a cheap but still quick Phenom X2.
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November 9, 2010 10:24:10 PM

notsonoobPCguy said:
@gsgoody Ha "sex appeal" if your mate even knows what 6 core means.


Okay, maybe "nerd appeal" is more appropriate.
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November 9, 2010 11:48:47 PM

I wonder when the OP will get back to us :-/ We have tons of good suggestions. @gsgoody yea that would probably fit better :D 
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November 10, 2010 7:18:19 AM

Quote:
Hi there I am looking to build my self new gaming PC and I am not shore to go for Intel or AMD processors. Just to let you know the graphics card I want to go for is new HD6870 from ATI. Can you give me any advice?
Kind regards.
Zak.


Spec for Best Gaming 2010
Poc : Intel Core i7 975 extreme or ( above may be 100core 2015)
mobo: Asus Rampag II Extreme / Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme
RAM : Corsair Dominator
Cooler : Noctua/Sunbeam/silver arrow/spire thermax/shynte
HDD System : SSD Corsair 160Gb
PSU : Corsair 1050W (enough for Crossfire 4x HD6870)
HDD DATA : WDC Velociraptor 12000RPM 2TB :o 
Casing : artistic Made by self from Acryllic, gold
interesting...?




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November 10, 2010 1:36:42 PM

Ha doubt those 12000RPM 2tb drives will last, i noticed after having 2 1tb 7200RPM drives die on me that fast big capacity drives don't last long. I got a 5400RPM 1tb now and its been working for a while.
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November 10, 2010 6:07:41 PM

I have to disagree with you Andon the L3 cache doesn't make a huge difference at all its not worth losing a core. More and more games will use 4 cores (all DX11 games can use 4 cores) and that will make the difference. not gaming- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-l3-cache,241... gaming- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-l3-cache,241... im not sure why L4D likes L3 but it does. And that Rosewill HSF does not compare to the stock, its MUCH better than the one i got from AMD and it cools great too.
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November 10, 2010 6:56:45 PM

notsonoobpcguy- I know Far Cry 2 is hurt by it (about 10% performance loss) and L4D as you said, so that makes me wonder what games that haven't been benchmarked or aren't released yet will be hurt by it too. I guess I'm just saying I wouldn't want to give up that much performance and take a gamble on it when you can get a Phenom II in the same price range. I did word it wrong though, the L3 doesn't make a huge difference. And that heatsink is the best cheap heatsink I could find since the PII X3s are all OEM chips on Newegg's site and don't come with a heatsink.
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November 10, 2010 7:35:49 PM

Not to add to the thread-jack, but I've got a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus that's sat on a shelf for months waiting for a good use; that day has arrived. I've got a 740BE coming in that I hope to unlock and OC somewhat more than I usually push a CPU. Whether it unlocks or not, it should still be a good gaming processor.
@OP, if multiple GPUs are in your future, you will probably need the performance of an Intel CPU, perhaps a 930 or 950. Otherwise, either the 740BE or 955BE look like they live at the price/performance Max. Either can be overclocked to the same level as their more expensive brothers, and the hexa-cores don't appear to add any real value for gaming.
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November 10, 2010 8:33:39 PM

Hey jtt283 send me along a message when if you can get the 740BE unlocked, im still going back and forth between that and a Athlon X4 640. @Andon I might just end up getting a Phenom II X3 if jtt283 can unlock to X4 and if i can than thats a double win, i get four cores and L3 cache. But i will need another heatsink, im planning on building a HTPC with all my left over parts :3
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November 10, 2010 9:18:09 PM

Ok, I'll try to remember to do that. The parts aren't here yet (UPS showed "out for delivery" this morning!) but the earliest I'd have time to build is probably Saturday.
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November 10, 2010 9:29:19 PM

Coolieo that should be before i order :3 I hate waiting for things from UPS.
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November 11, 2010 7:24:04 AM

I dunno, phenom x4 965, sandy bridge, i5-760/LGA1156, i7-950/LGA1366, amd phenom x6 1055... i'm tired right now so i just give that list.
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November 11, 2010 7:51:57 AM

too many procie make confuse, sick a head :pt1cable:  depend on money & he want it :lol: 
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November 11, 2010 12:23:27 PM

He needs to tell us his budget. Without that we are all just peeing into the wind.
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November 12, 2010 12:16:59 PM

Wait for sandy bridge!!!!!!

that stuff will pwn in gaming performance on i5's and i7's i believe it's on i7's correct me if im wrong.
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November 12, 2010 1:26:22 PM

Whats the heck is sandy bridge?
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November 12, 2010 2:44:04 PM

Sandy Bridge isn't that great. The biggest benefit is that it has awesome integrated graphics, but the biggest draw back is you can't OC them much. Unless you go with a pricey "K" model, current i5 and i7s will be able to OC much higher than Sandy Bridge. Ivy Bridge, whevener that comes out, might be better tho. I'm only excited for Sandy Bridge to see what it does to the laptop market.
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November 12, 2010 10:33:21 PM

Yea i did a little research and yea its just integrated graphics on steroids, not a big deal, the laptop market as Wolfram23 mentioned should be interesting though.
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November 12, 2010 11:21:47 PM

Parts are here. System should wake up some time tomorrow.
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November 13, 2010 12:00:26 AM

What kinda mobo do you have jtt283? Im using a 870-G45 right now by MSI
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November 13, 2010 12:09:44 AM

The mobo is the ASRock 870iCafe. I would not have paid full price for it (see the review at HardwareSecrets), but when they put it on eBay, I found it worth a bid, and got it for a mere $35+shipping.
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November 13, 2010 1:48:08 AM

Cool we have the same chip set :3 so you got eh X3 740 right?
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November 15, 2010 12:30:44 AM

Yes, X3 740; unlocked to X4. It "feels" faster than the Q9450 it is replacing, but mostly due to the 120GB G.Skill SSD...
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November 15, 2010 1:56:01 AM

^You replaced a quad core Intel with a tri-core AMD? Hm... okay.
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November 15, 2010 3:40:46 AM

Thats fantastic news, i will be buying a X3 740 SUPER soon. Thanks for kinda testing that out for me jtt283. Also how is OCing? Does your mobo still recognize it as a black edition CPU? @wolfram23 Well im sure that even leaving the unlocked X3 Phenom is faster than his Q9450 stock.
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November 15, 2010 3:43:39 AM

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? @wolfram23 Well im sure that even leaving the unlocked X3 Phenom is faster than his Q9450 stock.


Ummm no. Current AMD processors are just a bit slower than Core2 clock for clock.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-overcloc...
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November 15, 2010 4:06:01 AM

Looking at that chart the Q9450 stacks up to a Phenon II X4 which he UNLOCKED his X3 to, sorry i wasn't exactly clear on that :p  Not to hate on Intel but why their CPUs so darn expensive? For something the speed of what i bought i would of had to spend 20 to 30+ dollars more. Also the X6 is a big smack in Intel's face who needs to spend 1000+ bucks on a Intel core when even the $190 X6 is faster than a i7 975 at 3.33ghz?
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November 15, 2010 4:37:48 AM

Hate to tell you but in most things real world ( non synthetic ) the i5 750/760 at $200 smacks around the 6 core Thuban. X6 is faster than a i7 975 ??????? Not even close. You overclock the i5 750 to 4ghz it beats the 1090T all day long and unlike the AMD processor does not hit a wall at 3.6/3.8 where it stops scaling. I am no fan boy either way but for sheer speed Intel owns AMD. AMD is stuck with processors slower than Core2........Core2 came out in 2006.
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November 15, 2010 4:58:13 AM

Even my Phenom X2 550 is faster than most C2Ds, ok i overstated the 1090T its actually about as fast as a i7 920 or 860. Anyways i find its hard to "rate" CPUs, sure there are of course general areas like X2, X3, X4 and either Phenom or Athlon but it all ends up at how you think the game/program performs. Everything is coded/written differently there is no one way to just say one CPU is faster than another if its compared to other in the same general performance, some games prefer higher clock speeds (Fallout 3) others like more cores (GTA IV) its just all up to how much money your willing to spend and how it performs to you. To me a X4 at $80 sounds like a steal considering that some X4s are in i7 range depending on what game.
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