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Back Again- Final Build Ready to BUY Please look!

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March 18, 2009 8:58:58 PM

Hello to all the regulars here! (thekid, aevm, proximon, outlander, mykc, and others I know I am forgetting!!) I am back again and have thought extremely hard. I have come to accept that I should make my build around $1k and I have decided to go with the dragon platform! Check out my list and if there is any recommendations feel free to say so!

CPU + MOBO combo: AMD x3 720 BE + MA790GP-UD4H $240.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM: G.SKILL PI BLACK DDR2 800 2X2GB $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: WD CAVIAR BLACK 640GB $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: PC POWER & COOLING 750W $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: SAPPHIRE 4870 1GB $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CASE: ANTEC P182 $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU COOLER: XIGMATEK DARK KNIGHT $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DRIVE: LG BLACK 22X $23.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: VISTA HOME PREMIUM SYSTEM BUILDERS 64-BIT $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

KEYBOARD: SAITEK BLACK USB ECLIPSE $34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOUSE: LOGITECH G5 $43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COMPOUND: ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 THERMAL COMPOUND $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total w/ shipping = $1065.88
I think this is a really good build for about $1k and I can upgrade the motherboard and ram later on when there is actually a need to. I can crossfire another 4870 down the road and be good there too. So all in all, I feel like this is a really good build for the price. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks
March 18, 2009 9:10:51 PM

Ah, I see you went with the triple-core instead of the quad-core.
This is a very nice build actually. Very nice, indeed.
Although the second slot on that motherboard runs at half the speed, so it wont give you all you are expecting with crossfire in the future.
I think I might just use these specs (except a different mobo) for my new build :D .
March 18, 2009 9:15:36 PM

Yes, very tight. a PCI-E slot running at 8x compared 16x results in like 3% drop in performance.
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March 18, 2009 9:15:57 PM

boudy said:
Ah, I see you went with the triple-core instead of the quad-core.
This is a very nice build actually. Very nice, indeed.
Although the second slot on that motherboard runs at half the speed, so it wont give you all you are expecting with crossfire in the future.
I think I might just use these specs (except a different mobo) for my new build :D .


Oh, what motherboard would you suggest? If the second slot will only be x8 I don't think it makes that much of a difference. Not sure though!
March 18, 2009 9:17:20 PM

MykC said:
Yes, very tight.


Thanks, I knew I was forgetting someone when I was listing the regulars! You have been on here helping others quite a bit! Thanks
March 18, 2009 9:17:57 PM

very nice build .
All good quality stuff including the case .
March 18, 2009 9:20:26 PM

Outlander_04 said:
very nice build .
All good quality stuff including the case .


Thanks outlander! So the motherboard seems fine? I am going to keep it I think, the combo deal is too good to pass up! And as mykc said a second card running at 8x is like a 3% drop in performance. So it should be all good!
March 18, 2009 9:31:54 PM

MykC said:
Yes, very tight. a PCI-E slot running at 8x compared 16x results in like 3% drop in performance.


Really? I had no idea :( . Im a noob when it comes to motherboards, then only thing I KNOW are CPU's, GPU's, and Cases :D .
March 18, 2009 9:39:20 PM

boudy said:
Really? I had no idea :( . Im a noob when it comes to motherboards, then only thing I KNOW are CPU's, GPU's, and Cases :D .


No worries dude! This is my first build so I am somewhat of a noob as well! Thanks for the input though all comments are respected here! :D 
March 18, 2009 9:56:54 PM

Oh I forgot to mention this is for gaming mainly, so the triple core is perfect!! And verizon fios will be installed within the next month also! Perfect timing!
March 18, 2009 10:03:06 PM

I would stick with your original PSU. The OCZ posted above doesn't have enough power connectors for crossfire 4870's.
March 18, 2009 10:17:43 PM

I think the original Gigabyte motherboard is quite a bit higher quality than the Foxconn. I would only go with a Foxconn motherboard if the budget was the main concern above reliability.

I think your original build looks great.
March 19, 2009 12:47:03 AM

Ditch the WD Caviar Black 640 gb, get a Samsung Spinpoint F1 1tb, they're fast, reliable, and they only cost about 10 dollars more.
March 19, 2009 1:59:23 AM

az060693 said:
Ditch the WD Caviar Black 640 gb, get a Samsung Spinpoint F1 1tb, they're fast, reliable, and they only cost about 10 dollars more.


Thanks for the input, but I think I will stick with the WD Caviar Black 640gb. I will maybe Raid another one onto that one later on, but I doubt I will even need the extra space. Thanks though!
March 19, 2009 2:04:20 AM

shortstuff_mt said:
I would stick with your original PSU. The OCZ posted above doesn't have enough power connectors for crossfire 4870's.


Thanks for the input guys and yes I will stick with the 750w due to brand, price after m.i.r., and what shortstuff_mt said.

And also to you guys again on the motherboard! I am open to all opinions and I will stick with the Gigabyte board combo because of the reliability, as well as the fact it fits in my budget just fine!

Thanks again guys, I will place the order tomorrow afternoon and will hopefully receive everything by Monday! Anymore advice is greatly appreciated!
March 19, 2009 4:34:20 AM

Any more suggestions? I am pretty excited about this and I am sure I will be back on here asking questions as I build. I will also post pictures and I am a neat freak so the cable management will be superb! If anybody has any other suggestions go for it, otherwise it's final!
March 19, 2009 5:13:26 PM

stick with the gigabyte...they offer great support behind their products....unlike Biostar, who refuses to release a bios update for my mobo so that I can upgrade to a Phenom 2...Damn you biostar! damn you!!!...sorry...im still pretty steamed about the issue...
March 19, 2009 5:59:03 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
I would stick with your original PSU. The OCZ posted above doesn't have enough power connectors for crossfire 4870's.


And it has only 43A instead of 60A. I'd rather pay the extra $25 and get the 60A and not need to buy adapters. (The adapters cost $3 each and you need two of them, and I have no idea how much Newegg charges to ship them.)

I like that build.

Maybe save $13 and get the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 instead of the Xigmatek Dark Knight.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003&Tpk=HDT-S1283
The Dark Knight comes with a bracket for LGA1366, but you don't need it and by the time you want a new CPU there's no guarantee that LGA1366 will be your best option anyway.

I love the Antec P182, it's beautiful and quiet. However, it feels wrong to pay $150 for a case and $147 for the CPU. Think about it. I'd prefer a cheaper case (Antec 300, $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042) and a better CPU (combo for $314, same MB & Phenom II 940 http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/AddToCart.aspx?Submit=ADD&ItemList=Combo.165047)
Guessing that Newegg charges about $20 to ship the Antec 300, you'd end up paying the same but with a better CPU.
March 19, 2009 6:07:37 PM

aevm said:
And it has only 43A instead of 60A. I'd rather pay the extra $25 and get the 60A and not need to buy adapters. (The adapters cost $3 each and you need two of them, and I have no idea how much Newegg charges to ship them.)

I like that build.

Maybe save $13 and get the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 instead of the Xigmatek Dark Knight.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003&Tpk=HDT-S1283
The Dark Knight comes with a bracket for LGA1366, but you don't need it and by the time you want a new CPU there's no guarantee that LGA1366 will be your best option anyway.

I love the Antec P182, it's beautiful and quiet. However, it feels wrong to pay $150 for a case and $147 for the CPU. Think about it. I'd prefer a cheaper case (Antec 300, $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042) and a better CPU (combo for $314, same MB & Phenom II 940 http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/AddToCart.aspx?Submit=ADD&ItemList=Combo.165047)
Guessing that Newegg charges about $20 to ship the Antec 300, you'd end up paying the same but with a better CPU.


Thanks for the input aevm! I will look into the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 instead. The case is kind of a big deal to me and I just love the p182 over everything else. I know it's $150 but its worth it since it will outlast all the parts that go into it! So I will keep it along with the triple core 720, which should be perfect for gaming! Thanks for the input!
March 19, 2009 6:41:42 PM

Good point, actually. All right, I guess you're good to go.

Is this your first build ever? Do you know about electrostatic discharges and how to avoid them?
March 19, 2009 6:59:28 PM

aevm said:
Good point, actually. All right, I guess you're good to go.

Is this your first build ever? Do you know about electrostatic discharges and how to avoid them?


Yes, this is going to be my first build ever. Umm I am not too sure, but isn't it avoided by wearing the anti-static arm band or something? Feel free to give me some advice, so I do not mess anything up! :D 
March 19, 2009 7:04:04 PM

Yeah, the arm band would do great. Or just touch something big and metallic before you pick up any parts.

March 19, 2009 7:32:14 PM

aevm said:
Yeah, the arm band would do great. Or just touch something big and metallic before you pick up any parts.


Thanks for the advice. My friend is going to help me build it and he has quite a bit of experience. He has a few of the arm bands as well! I am sure I will be back on here asking questions though! haha Thanks again...

Placing the order now! Any last words before it is set in stone???? :D 
March 20, 2009 12:13:47 AM

Yeah, good luck!!!
March 20, 2009 12:34:44 AM

Thanks, the order has been placed! The only switch I made was the PSU. I switched it for the Corsair 750tx because it actually is the same price now on newegg $109.99

Everything should be here soon! Can't wait
March 20, 2009 1:12:36 AM

Smart move. The Corsair 750TX is 6.3" long, while the PC P&C 750W is 7" long. With the PC P&C you would have had a little problem there - there's a fan that needs to be moved to accommodate the long PSU. Apart from that, both are very good PSUs with the same 60A, 4 connectors, etc.
March 20, 2009 1:33:52 AM

aevm said:
Smart move. The Corsair 750TX is 6.3" long, while the PC P&C 750W is 7" long. With the PC P&C you would have had a little problem there - there's a fan that needs to be moved to accommodate the long PSU. Apart from that, both are very good PSUs with the same 60A, 4 connectors, etc.


Yup, that is the main reason I switched. They are both very high quality power supplies, but the corsair took the win when I saw that it was shorter and will probably fit better!
March 24, 2009 5:06:32 AM

Okay everything will be here sometime tomorrow and I have a free day tomorrow with nothing going on to dedicate to building this rig!!

Be sure to check on this thread because I am going to take pictures of the process and once its done with the cable management! I am a neat freak so it should be a very neat case!!

Thanks again guys
March 24, 2009 6:59:57 PM

Hey guys this mite be a stupid question but the corsair 750tx should the fan be facing down or up?
March 24, 2009 7:46:58 PM

It's not a stupid question at all. I've seen it debated in several forums already :) 

I think the best approach is to make it blow down if you use it in a P182 because the P182 puts the PSU at the bottom. That way the hot air from the PSU goes out of the case, rather than toward the CPU and GPU.

Now, the problem is you only have about a centimeter of open space under the case, so the airflow won't be great. For best results, raise the case on something, or install some wheels :) 
!