Buying New Comp

Hi.

My girlfriend is planning to buy a new desktop from alienware and being the tech nut, I've been checking out stuff to see if her setup is gonna go smoothly.

She's planning on getting a 750w psu, and I decided to check out a "PSU calculator" to see if it would cut it. After putting in her specs, the total came to 763w.

Is this a huge deal? Would a 750w be sufficient still? The only other choice is a 1000w.

Her planned specs:

PCU:
AMD® Phenom™ X4 9950 Black Edition Quad Core 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache

GPU:
Single 2GB GDDR5 ATI® Radeon® HD 4870 X2

RAM:
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 1024MB

Motherboard:
AMD® 790FX Motherboard

HDD:
500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache

Addition things include a:

High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Card
&
a 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW) Drive

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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  1. What PSU calculator did you use, because for the given specs, the 763W seems high? If a calculator gives you 763W, I wouldn't go under 800W.

    But from the spec you gave me, I would have expected ~650W from a calculator, not >750W.

    BTW, get 4GB of RAM, not 2GB, get a 64 bit OS, get a Phenom 2, check how much it would cost to build that yourself vs alienware...
  2. How much does Alienware quote for that? I'm curious as to how much you could save doing it yourself. Also, do you know the brand of the PSU? That is just as important as the wattage.

    You probably don't need the audio card either, any decent motherboard these days have great audio on board.
  3. battlemarz said:
    You probably don't need the audio card either, any decent motherboard these days have great audio on board.
    +1 on that, my last audio card was one I bought with my AMD Athlon 1GHz about 8 years ago :P.
  4. A 750w PSU is fine for that system if its a good quality built one, at full load that system wouldn't use more that 450w. Honestly though alienware charges more for their PC's than any other manufacturer, you would probably pay half of what you are paying for that PC if you built it yourself, and you would have more control of the components you put in it. I can't believe they are still using the 9950 BE...that CPU sucks, especially for a gaming PC. Its slow and HOT. Phenom II X4 940 FTW going with AMD.
  5. +1 on xthekidx's suggestion. Phenom II X4 940 would be a much better cpu.

    What was the budget on the system you were looking at from alienware?

    Building it yourself would be alot more beneficial. You can choose the parts, save a lot of cash, and get better components for your money! It really is not that hard to build a computer either, if you get stuck you can always just post on here, there is always someone who knows what they are doing on here to help you out! :D
  6. +1 on the last five posts haha LETS BOYCOTT ALIENWARE!!!
  7. +1 again
    The CPU and the Mobo are old ones...
  8. haha man im curious to see the price on this sucka though.
  9. To this point we have been pretty negative about your proposed build lol. Tell us what you want for this rig and what your budget is. We will build a better computer for cheaper, I guarantee it. Then you can decide if you want to assemble it yourself (which is not that hard, everyone thinks it will be horrible until they do it and then they realize its easy), or if you don't feel up to it, just take it to a local shop and pay them $60 or so to put it together for you once you get the parts. You will still end up with a better PC with higher quality products for less than what Alienware will charge you, I guarantee it.
  10. I played around with the configurator on the alienware website and made as close an approximation to your setup as I can...over $1800. LOL. They are making 100% profit on those components, perhaps more charging at that price. Honestly for that much you can build an i7 with a 4870x2 and have cash to spare for a nice big monitor. Interestingly enough though they offer the GTX 295 for $50 cheaper than the 4870x2, which is a better GPU...

    Do yourself a favor, do not buy from Alienware. We can do SO much better.
  11. +5 (if possible) on thekids post, absolutely man, i got my finger on the mouse ready to switch tabs to newegg, you just tell us when =)
  12. NoodlezNightmare said:
    Hi.

    My girlfriend is planning to buy a new desktop from alienware and being the tech nut, I've been checking out stuff to see if her setup is gonna go smoothly.

    She's planning on getting a 750w psu, and I decided to check out a "PSU calculator" to see if it would cut it. After putting in her specs, the total came to 763w.

    Is this a huge deal? Would a 750w be sufficient still? The only other choice is a 1000w.

    Her planned specs:

    PCU:
    AMD® Phenom™ X4 9950 Black Edition Quad Core 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache

    GPU:
    Single 2GB GDDR5 ATI® Radeon® HD 4870 X2

    RAM:
    2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 1024MB

    Motherboard:
    AMD® 790FX Motherboard

    HDD:
    500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache

    Addition things include a:

    High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Card
    &
    a 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW) Drive

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks


    If you have any plans of marrying this girl...think twice. If she's buying from Alienware now god only knows how she's going to blow money later on.
  13. LMFAO i think that may be a bit harsh.
  14. Why_Me said:
    If you have any plans of marrying this girl...think twice. If she's buying from Alienware now god only knows how she's going to blow money later on.

    Lol. Lets hope its just due to ignorance.
  15. But Alienware makes it all pretty and glowy
  16. I'll add my voice to the chorus of people calling for you to build your own system. :)
    Heck, maybe even build it together with her, it'll be a great photo op.

    I bought a system from Alienware when I was starting college (studying digital animation and film production). It was a fantastic computer, and it should have been, because it cost me ~ $3200. Once I found out how much I spent, how much I could have built it for myself (right about 1800-2000), and how much it was worth in three years, I decided then and there to learn how to build my own systems and never looked back. I definitely get the allure of the boutique system builders, but it'll feel so much better building it with your (or her!) own hands and getting Igor to pull the switch to wake it up. :)

    I just went in and put together a test build for 4,000 on their ALX lineup (you can't even pick the i7 920, they force you to choose from the 940 or 965) and I came up with a comparable system for right around 1700 less on New Egg. That's a whole lot of premium they make people pay for a light show and acoustic dampening.
  17. Ok so since I'm bored I am going to show you what I would do with that $1800

    Case and PSU: CM Storm Sniper and Corsair 850tx
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.176943

    Motherboard: P6T Deluxe V2
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131365&Tpk=P6T%20deluxe%20v2

    CPU and CPU Cooler: i7 920 and Noctua NH-U12P SE1366
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.163998

    Ram: 6gb OCZ Platinum
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381

    Video Card:Saphire 4870x2
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768

    HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

    OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

    DVD Drive: LG
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152

    Shipping included that comes to $1675. That system wipes the floor with that POS alienware.

    If you wanted to spend the same amount of money as that alienware, then this is what I would upgrade to:
    CPU and GPU: EVGA GTX 285 and i7 920
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.173994
    anther GPU for SLI: EVGA GTX 285
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130442
    CPU cooler: Scythe Mugen 2
    http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/scythe-mugen-2-cpu-cooler---scmg-2000.html

    Total of those changes comes to about $1950 with shipping included. Then you get $80 MIR back, grand total of $1870. This build would crush that POS alienware, they would probably charge you over $3500 for the same thing.
  18. EyesOnMidnight said:
    I just went in and put together a test build for 4,000 on their ALX lineup (you can't even pick the i7 920, they force you to choose from the 940 or 965) and I came up with a comparable system for right around 1700 less on New Egg. That's a whole lot of premium they make people pay for a light show and acoustic dampening.

    Haha amen brotha +1
  19. xthekidx said:
    Ok so since I'm bored I am going to show you what I would do with that $1800

    Case and PSU:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.176943

    Motherboard:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131365&Tpk=P6T%20deluxe%20v2

    CPU and CPU Cooler:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.163998

    Ram:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381

    Video Card:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768

    HDD:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

    OS:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

    DVD Drive:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152

    Shipping included that comes to $1675. That system wipes the floor with that POS alienware.

    If you wanted to spend the same amount of money as that alienware, then this is what I would upgrade to:
    CPU and GPU:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.173994
    anther GPU for SLI:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130442
    CPU cooler:
    http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/scythe-mugen-2-cpu-cooler---scmg-2000.html

    Total of those changes comes to about $1950 with shipping included. Then you get $80 MIR back, grand total of $1870. This build would crush that POS alienware, they would probably charge you over $3000 for the same thing.


    Couldn't have put it better myself, beautiful rig there thekid.
  20. +1 for xthekidx build.
  21. +1 for the xthekidx

    and to the topic creator.... dude plz tell your gal to build her own system ull be paying more for some led fans and some alien stickers and why the hell is she going for the 9950be???? get the phenom II dude brilliant performance at a very reasonable price!!

    think about it
  22. sid_nag17 said:
    +1 for the xthekidx

    and to the topic creator.... dude plz tell your gal to build her own system ull be paying more for some led fans and some alien stickers and why the hell is she going for the 9950be???? get the phenom II dude brilliant performance at a very reasonable price!!

    think about it


    Why even get an AMD when you can get an i7 ? Look at it this way....if you had the money would you rather be driving a volkswagon bug, or a Ferrari ? AMD's are for poor people, and if she's buying from Alienware, then we know she can obviously afford an i7 rig.
  23. Ok now I'm going to show you what you could build that system for you are looking at from alienware if you did it yourself.

    HDD: $65
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

    Mobo: $200
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131361

    CPU: $150
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103291

    Ram: $20
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148235

    Optical: $24
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152

    PSU/Case:$190
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.176939

    GPU: $400
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768

    Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit: $100
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

    Total including Shipping and rebates: $1004. This is including a better Power supply, case, and most likely better motherboard than you would get in that system. Do you feel like you are getting ripped off yet?
  24. The branding must mean a lot to some people, because wow... 4870x2 for $550 over the included 9800 GT... I feel that one all the way over here.
  25. EyesOnMidnight said:
    The branding must mean a lot to some people, because wow... 4870x2 for $550 over the included 9800 GT... I feel that one all the way over here.

    lol yeah that means that they are charging you at least $700 for the 4870x2, if you assume they want $150 for the 9800 GT, chances are they want more like $200-$250 for it.
  26. and this is why i learned to build systems
  27. LOL.

    Don't worry guys. I've TOLD her alienware is expensive. She doesn't know much about computers (how they work/hardware) so she basically heard alienware is a big name and decided to go with that.

    Her comp is costing $3000 <.<;

    Shes only paying $2k for it though(grad present) so it could be worse.

    LOL from the posts I've checked, you guys are pretty much on the mark with the prices she SHOULD be paying. But eh. I've tried.


    Thanks
  28. LOL. You better keep separate bank accounts if you marry this chica. Even $2000 is a rip off for that PC. Alienware isn't expensive, its OUTRAGEOUS.
  29. Well at any rate, tell her to get an i7 or at least Phenom II, the 9950BE is crap, garbage, poop. And tell her to buy the cheapest Video card offered with the PC, and the cheapest ram configuration. I think Alienware wanted $200 for 4gb of DDR2-1066 when I checked last night, which you can buy for $45 from Newegg and put in yourself later, same with the graphics card, you can buy a 4870x2 for $400 and that takes a minute to put in the PC yourself if you know anything about computers. If she actually wants to spend that money, then tell her to give you the extra and buy her some diamond earrings or something...maybe that will get through to her.
  30. NoodlezNightmare said:
    Her comp is costing $3000 <.<;
    That is just insane, come-on, snap her out of it ... it's 3 times what is is worth. You could BOTH have a better computer than what she is getting for that price.

    I can understand wanting something cool when finishing school, I did the same thing (plus I had a computer financing program from my employer back then .... ahhh the dot com era). If to treat herself, get xthekidx's ~2000$ SLI setup and add a 30" Samsung 305T LCD. The computer will be useless (or close) in 2-3 years, but unless it breaks, the LCD will probably last 5-10 years.
  31. xthekidx said:
    Well at any rate, tell her to get an i7 or at least Phenom II, the 9950BE is crap, garbage, poop. And tell her to buy the cheapest Video card offered with the PC, and the cheapest ram configuration. I think Alienware wanted $200 for 4gb of DDR2-1066 when I checked last night, which you can buy for $45 from Newegg and put in yourself later, same with the graphics card, you can buy a 4870x2 for $400 and that takes a minute to put in the PC yourself if you know anything about computers.


    Hey, not to spam this thread, but since were talking about Alienware being a rip off...which everyone knows it is, I just did an i7 build on another thread just now for $1,000. You know what this means right? It means AMD is going even further down the tubes. :sol:
    I mean who's going to get some ghetto-hood rat AMD rig when they can build an i7 rig for a grand? HA HA...I love it. :love: :)

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