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Intel Quad Q9550 or Intel Duo E8600

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June 22, 2009 2:51:07 AM

A regular quad core or a high clock speed duo ?
June 22, 2009 3:04:31 AM

Or i7, which is the same price as both of them? Because x58 motherboard have gotten LOTS cheaper? Because ddr3 is affordable now?

Yes. i7.

But if you insist on the Core 2 series, please list usage and the system specs of the other components, and then I'll be able to make a judgment from there.
June 22, 2009 3:23:52 AM

mlcloud said:
Or i7, which is the same price as both of them? Because x58 motherboard have gotten LOTS cheaper? Because ddr3 is affordable now?

Yes. i7.

But if you insist on the Core 2 series, please list usage and the system specs of the other components, and then I'll be able to make a judgment from there.


Gaming and CS4

: Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 Motherboard
:4GB (2GBx2) PC6400 DDR2/800
:ATI Radeon HD 4890 1GB
:500 gb HD
:680 watts power supply

that good enough?
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June 22, 2009 3:30:01 AM

Do you already own those components?

Since you list CS4 there (Adobe Creative Suite, I'm assuming that there has been no Counter Strike releases under that number) I would recommend the q9550 over the duo core. Unless gaming is more important to you... yet an overclocked q9550 would provide huge performance boosts to your artistic/graphic work that I don't think the 1-6 fps boost you might see with an overclocked e8600 would be worth the opportunity cost...

If you DON'T already own those components, it might not be too hard to build an i7 with a few benjamins boost in the budget, and would net you pretty much the best of both worlds, so do consider...
June 22, 2009 3:51:36 AM

i'll think. Thanks for the advise
June 22, 2009 12:54:31 PM

TheJayhawksWin said:
Gaming and CS4

: Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 Motherboard
:4GB (2GBx2) PC6400 DDR2/800
:ATI Radeon HD 4890 1GB
:500 gb HD
:680 watts power supply

that good enough?


If you are going to use CS4 (Photoshop not CounterStrike I assume), you might consider an Nvidia GPU graphic card.

CS4 supports CUDA platform making some operations somewhat faster.
June 22, 2009 4:50:54 PM

We still need to find out whether he OWNS these parts already or not, because the i7 is such a smarter path to take for his needs... and for this generation of PC parts...
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June 22, 2009 7:49:35 PM

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Neither, both are a dead end socketwise and both are waaaay overpriced. Core i5 will be available for half the price of a C2Q in a couple months.


i5 for $100?? Where can I get that?

Seriously though, at this point, the quad wins provided its within ~200-300Mhz of the duo.
June 22, 2009 9:17:20 PM

They're not out yet. But they should be pretty revolutionary.
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June 23, 2009 12:03:58 PM

Please, i5 is just a cheaper i7 with the loss of hyperthreading on a different socket. Nothing new of any consequence. Heck, Quads still compete against i7, and with the loss of 8 thread support, I want to know what advantages i5 has over C2Q's...
June 23, 2009 2:16:08 PM

I meant revolutionary, as in prices. The i5 should perform pretty closely to the i7 (as you say, loss of HT, but that means almost nothing to most people) at the price at or lower than C2Qs. Sounds like a deal to me.
June 23, 2009 6:32:13 PM

I know this is late put i just wanted to say i don't own the computer yet and am now planning on getting a i7 @ 2.66 along with:

Asus PT6 mobo

ATI Radeon 4890 1 Gb

6 Gb's RAM

and Astek liquid colling for the i7
May 23, 2013 6:43:41 AM

I realize this is all OLD TOPIC but I am not a gamer nor anything I just simply want to speed up my old ash system to the tops of what it will do. I believe simply dropping in an e8600 might be my ticket.

I am very limited now on funds and my 2.66 chip might also be "overclock-able" like I see you guys mentioning the e8400-8500 in other threads is good at. But what about the e6???'s series?

> Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6750 (4M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB) <

Am I on the right path at least?

Terry

mlcloud said:
We still need to find out whether he OWNS these parts already or not, because the i7 is such a smarter path to take for his needs... and for this generation of PC parts...


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May 23, 2013 6:56:16 AM

TheBadger7 said:
I realize this is all OLD TOPIC but I am not a gamer nor anything I just simply want to speed up my old ash system to the tops of what it will do. I believe simply dropping in an e8600 might be my ticket.

I am very limited now on funds and my 2.66 chip might also be "overclock-able" like I see you guys mentioning the e8400-8500 in other threads is good at. But what about the e6???'s series?

> Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6750 (4M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB) <

Am I on the right path at least?

Terry

mlcloud said:
We still need to find out whether he OWNS these parts already or not, because the i7 is such a smarter path to take for his needs... and for this generation of PC parts...



LOL Ancient thread.
I have the E6700 which is the 1066MHz bus variant and it is still a solid performer.
It can be overclocked pretty easily by raising the FSB.
Two things you need to keep in mind are: watching the temps and adjusting the RAM divider to prevent the RAM from getting excessively overclocked.
May 23, 2013 7:14:18 AM

My poor old MoB only goes up to the 1333 MHz so what you're saying is I can't overclock?

WARNING *** I have never done anything like this before. ***

Since you were so nice replying would you mind going to the CPU Support List and suggesting what I should do?

> ASUS P5QPL-AM <

> Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6750 (4M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB) <

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LOL Ancient thread.
I have the E6700 which is the 1066MHz bus variant and it is still a solid performer.
It can be overclocked pretty easily by raising the FSB.
Two things you need to keep in mind are: watching the temps and adjusting the RAM divider to prevent the RAM from getting excessively overclocked.
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May 23, 2013 7:23:30 AM

TheBadger7 said:
My poor old MoB only goes up to the 1333 MHz so what you're saying is I can't overclock?

WARNING *** I have never done anything like this before. ***

Since you were so nice replying would you mind going to the CPU Support List and suggesting what I should do?



Do you mean you cannot go into the BIOS and raise the FSB? at all?
On my G41M-S3 board, it is labeled CPU freq and it is multiplied by 4 to arrive at the ending FSB and by 10 to get the total CPU frequency.

In your case it is probably 333 multiplied by 8 instead of 10.

That means if you raise it from 333 -> 375 MHz, your FSB will be running at 1500 MHz and your CPU will be running at 3 GHz.

Are you using DDR3 or DDR2?

You have a G41 based board so it will run just about any socket 775 CPU. You might be able to find a high clocked C2Q on ebay.

Two more questions: Are you using the stock cooler and how are your idle and load temps?
May 23, 2013 7:35:47 AM

> Do you mean you cannot go into the BIOS and raise the FSB? at all?

I have never tried to EVER change that stuff. I can look (only) and reply again in a bit.

DDR2 800MHz 4GB / 2 x 2GB (I believe) ... I'll also get that info in a minute I do know it's DDR2

> Are you using the stock cooler and how are your idle and load temps?

I bought it separate from the chip but it is a nice sounding low profile fan that changes speeds. I'll get a picture of it if you want but it is a DYNATRON 2 Ball Bearing / Top Motor
May 23, 2013 7:42:49 AM

:pfff:  I can't simply add the picture :( 

But it somewhat looks like THIS only a bit nicer.


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May 23, 2013 8:02:39 AM

Do you have temperature monitoring software installed?
May 23, 2013 8:20:24 AM

smeezekitty said:
Do you have temperature monitoring software installed?


No I don't. I did install CPUid's CPU-Z software to see the processor speed / stepping.

In my BIOS there is an Ai Overclocking [AUTO] section and there were several choices like 5% 10% 15% 20% & 25% so I set it to 10% and I now see in CPU-Z that I am Bus Speed +-366 MHz / Rate FSB hovering at 1463-4 MHz

Should I be concerned? I don't do anything but watch Netflix and shift clients DATA around. And regular internet activity like email / Facebook.

My fan has not speed up YET in 4-5 minutes. And it feels normal. I am going to follow that link in your post for temp watching.

Terry
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May 23, 2013 8:26:03 AM

Try coretemp or speedfan for watching temps. One thing to watch for when using auto overclocking is to make sure your Vcore doesn't go too high.

What does it say Vcore is at?
May 23, 2013 8:39:49 AM

smeezekitty said:
Do you have temperature monitoring software installed?


I now have SpeedFan installed and the temp of my CPU is 51C Core1 56C Core2 55C but my MOB is 191C Fan on CPU 1125 RPM

Should I return to AUTO and not the 10% Overclocking? It does not make any since that my Fan has not speed up at all because I always pay attention to that sound and it did do it at boot but not since.

It says Fan MAXs at 3479 but it is running 1100-1500 RPM

Is this not worth the risk? Is 10% the most I should attempt?

Terry


May 23, 2013 8:45:48 AM

smeezekitty said:
Try coretemp or speedfan for watching temps. One thing to watch for when using auto overclocking is to make sure your Vcore doesn't go too high.

What does it say Vcore is at?


Vcore: 1.18V
+12V: 12,46V
AVcc: 3.36V
Vcore: 1.18V
+3.3V: 3.36V
+5V: 5.09V
+12V: 12.41V

There's that whole section :) 

============================

Win9x:NO 64Bit:NO GiveIO:NO SpeedFan:YES
I/O properly initialized
Linked ISA BUS at $0290
Linked Intel 82801GB ICH7 SMBUS at $0400
No active display found!
Scanning ISA BUS at $0290...
SuperIO Chip=Winbond W83627DHG-P
WARNING: bad Winbond($5CA3,$C1) identify (W83627DHG-P,W83667HG)
W83627DHG-P (ID=$C1) found (using SuperIO) on ISA at $290
Scanning Intel SMBus at $0400...
Found WDC WD1500BLFS-01YBU1 on AdvSMART
Found WL150GSA16100 on AdvSMART
ATK0110 (MB=P5QPL-AM) found on ACPI
Found Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz
End of detection
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May 23, 2013 9:44:40 AM

Well as long as it doesn't exceed 70c under load, you can leave it at 10%.
May 23, 2013 10:12:43 AM

smeezekitty said:
Well as long as it doesn't exceed 70c under load, you can leave it at 10%.


Thank You SOOOO Much! I think I'll place it under a load and watch what happens but the biggest load I know of is a movie or defragment.

Recommend an benchmarks now-a-days?

Yee Ha!
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May 23, 2013 10:44:16 AM

If you are looking for pure load, then prime95 will give you that.
May 23, 2013 11:18:16 AM

smeezekitty said:
If you are looking for pure load, then prime95 will give you that.


It's still running in the background and I am moving stuff around and posting this all at the same time. I can tell the difference completely.

Terry

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May 23, 2013 11:34:01 AM

The temps are tolerable. You might want to make the signature image smaller though.
May 23, 2013 12:25:43 PM

smeezekitty said:
The temps are tolerable. You might want to make the signature image smaller though.


Very Well :D  100X143 looks better also?

The Prime95 has been chugging away at 2.98 GHz +/- for an hour and 20 minutes ... but as soon as I started it the fan indeed kicked in above 4400 Rpm but nothing has gotten over 64C that I can tell.

Thank You SmeezeKitty :D 

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May 23, 2013 3:24:18 PM

TheBadger7 said:
smeezekitty said:
The temps are tolerable. You might want to make the signature image smaller though.


Very Well :D  100X143 looks better also?

The Prime95 has been chugging away at 2.98 GHz +/- for an hour and 20 minutes ... but as soon as I started it the fan indeed kicked in above 4400 Rpm but nothing has gotten over 64C that I can tell.

Thank You SmeezeKitty :D 


Sounds good.
September 28, 2013 12:32:13 PM

HE HE! Been a while MORE now. I later in the year managed to get a 3.2 Ghz 4M version for less than the 2.66 cost me. It runs like a champ ...
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