The Crysis Killer! (4890 X2 rumor)

$650-$700 is probbaly a good estimation. Which means it wont sell, people will opt for the GTX 295 @ $200 cheaper instead once they get into this mindset.

Well no it will sell and that is the sad part. It is the FASTEST and many people will pay the extra money solely for that title. It is what is happening now with the GTX 295 and what happened to 4870 X2, 9800 GX2, 3870 X2, 8800 Ultra, 1900 XTX...

i think it will go for $500 to $550, don't think it will sell for anything near $700

A 4890 X2 will only come about if board partners want one enough. My guess is that Sapphire may be the only one, just like they were the only one to put out a 4850 X2. It would require a more complex PCB design to handle the insane amount of heat that card would generate and the insane amount of power it would consume. I don't think that AMD feels the pressure right now to have a higher preforming top end card to induce the halo effect so for now putting out a 4890X2 is more trouble than it's worth, especially when you consider that they are busy designing their DX11 cards, as is NVIDIA, which should be out by the end of this year, or at least the beginning of next year.

For now if you want 4-way crossfire on the 4890 you will need a board with 4 8x PCI-E slots and an extended ATX case to fit them in .

crysis killer? yeah right.

i want 2 of these in X-Fire's so i can play WOW! Just kidding. But seriously, i thought that they werent going to come out with a 4890 x 2... lets hope for decent prices...

lol dude i want to hit u after u made that joke...

its funny seeing that oced at 950-1000 it exchanges blows witha stock 285 GTX, yet it can't beat an oced 285 gtx....which just says 285 GTX Oc'ed.

Which I think its doubtful that seeing a 285 GTX @ 648 mhz oced to the 720 mhz we see couldn't bring 10-20% increase over the stock 285 GTX....why couldn't it beat the 4890 which basically means a 17% faster 4890 than stock

anyways.

I wonder how many reactors this will need, and how many Acs you'll need next to it

the 4890 with 850MHz core has a TDP of 190W. a 4890 x2 with 1 GHz core would have a TDP of 400W+ if it's build using the same die as the single 4890 currently available. This is only my guess, but I think AMD would have to build it on a 40 nm process to make it viable without a massive cooler or sold as water cooling only.

the 4770 will come out on 40 nm in early May, so It seems possible that a 4890 x2 available at a slightly later date could be built on 40 nm as well.

Don't reference wiki plz, I'll just go and change it to say 295 GTX is actually a single GPU, and has 5 gigs of memory bandwidth.

Would 512 benefit the 4870 or 90 yes, but it come sat a cost, with GDDR5 and 256 bit, they save money, which gives them the upground, and lets them charge alot and lower prices as they see fit.

is 512 bit an option yes, would it benefit again yes. Is it cost of affect, I would say not. Taking the same gpu and making a dual GPU on 1 PCB, with out increase the bus width is very cost effective.

I mean with the 256 bit bus width the GDDr5 is pretty much the same as a 512 bus width with GDDR3, but I would have to say more efficient.

ATI is trying to attack both sides of the 295 GTX, the price and performance. And I guarantee you that with the clock increase of the 4890 (especially a 17% increase over stock 4890, and 27% increase over stock 4870), it should be able to put the smack down on the 295 GTX.

the 4890 shows a massive 30% improvement (give or take) and will be exactly what the 295 GTX was, it will be 10-15% faster than the 295 GTX. (opinion, mixed with calculations).

And yes, I think it should be 40 nm, so we can see it push OC capabilities, heat and power draw.

Although none of these cards are for me because I hate dual GPU single cards, I think we should see a good fight.

We should see ATI hold the crown for a good while now, because I doubt Nvidia will want to top it till its next series.

The 295 GTX and 275 GTX seem like flop and unecessary cards, especially with the 4870 X2 and 4890 having amazing price tags.

I still think ur better off buying a 260 GTX which is alot cheaper or a 285 GTX (which is alot more expensive buts its not a wannb card like a 275, which in my opinion is a broken 285).

Buts thats my opinon. We should see the 285 GTX having a price drop soon. Hopefully.

And what does this have to do with the conversation about a possibility of a 4890x2 card?

ppls what are you talking about now that the new 45nm tech is out and in the end of 2009 i heard somthing about 32nm tech of cpu i belive it will get to the gpu soon it means less watt more power price i dont know and there is the ddr5 and the xdr memory which the ps3 has and maybe it too will be on the next jen of gpu i have 8800 gts sli im going to stay with it at list till end of 2009 and then i will buy top end monster like my corent specs

^ well amd/ati is moving to 28nm next so maybe Q3/4 2010?

also a 1ghz oc'ed 4890 uses about 160w at load not 190w, so maybe 305w total for a 4890 X2 card, and I don't think $550 is unreasonable since ATi has shown that their dual GPU internal crossfire cards perform better than two single gpu cards in external crossfire.

dont be piki so its 45 nm u r right but still in the not so far futur there is talking about 32 nm cpu's this is the bottom line

This is the craziest *** I've ever read lol, lol, lol.....
Priceless!

why crazy plz explain ur self

english isnt my born language and i dont have the time to serch in the dictionary and some of the words are shortcut like u = you r = are as i was saying dont be picky but if i made you laugh its fine by me

Dude, I really dont know whats your point.... First you are talking about some nonexistent 45nm manufacturing than about the next 32nm manufacturing. Then you throw around some specs like ddr5 and xdr and ps3. Nothing is related and now you are posting articles first about the next Intel 32nm CPU and then about the gt300. I just don't see any correlation....

What's your point? It has nothing to do with the original post and the topic of this conversation.

I don't mean to sound rude, but you can put all these different news you want to post under separate topics in this forum, since GT300 has nothing to do with HD4890x2 and both of the cards have nothing to do with the next INtel CPU and or the "XDR" PS3... lol

Cheers

i will try to make my self more clear

the tred here talks about the nvidia 295 and the new 4890 ati i say wait there are better stuff in the horizon the mem that i talked about may be in the next gen of gpu and the next arch may also be in the next gpu generation.... sevi
hope i cleard my self take evething in ease

cheers mate(r u from Australia )

Wow just wow. You just called L1qu1d biased? He is about the most brutally honest person on these forums.

The only thing I have a problem with is that he hates on dual GPU solutions (3870 X2/9800 GX2/4870 X2/GTX 295) a lot because he had some terrible experience with the 9800 GX2. The only reason I have a problem with this is because I haven't, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Since he was comparing 3 of the cards he dislikes then I can't see how he was biased, especially since what he said was the general consensus, there is basically no reason to purchase a GTX 295 over a 4870 X2 if you must have one of the 2. 2 4890s or 2 GTX 275s would be much better than both in many ways while if you can only fit 1 card then a single 4890 or GTX 275 is plenty considering you can't afford a crossfire/SLI board. If you are planing to SLI or crossfire dual GPUs like the 4870 X2 or GTX 295 off the bat then you are wasting money since 3 4890s or 3 GTX 275s for less will perform better.