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Direct-x11 Cards Worht the wait?

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April 13, 2009 7:42:36 PM

I was going for the ASUS EAH4870 X2/HTDI 2GB PCI-E RETAIL but my quest of bringing her home was halted when i was advised to wait for the next generation with DX11 support.

Is it certain that this card wont support dx11, and should i really wait for newer cards to come? I would hate to spend some much money and end up wanting more!
a b U Graphics card
April 13, 2009 9:54:35 PM

It is certain it won't support DX11 as it only has some of the hardware components necessary. As to whether DX11 is really worth waiting for is anyone's guess.
April 13, 2009 10:22:52 PM

That might be a long wait. What are you upgrading from?

D3D11 may not be out until the end of the year and D3D11 is supposed to be compatible with D3D10 and vista (DX10 cards may not support certain DX11 features).
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April 14, 2009 1:06:23 AM

if it's like the dx9->10 card they will run dx10 and 9 with unpresident amount of performance lol like all new card might be worth the wait.
April 14, 2009 1:17:06 AM

I would wait to buy a 4870 x2 regardless, DX11 notwithstanding. The 4890 x2's are just around the corner, and will likely (hopefully) shake up the current pricing structure.
a b U Graphics card
April 14, 2009 4:22:38 AM

I think (hope) DX11 will be a better transition than the botched DX10, but we shall see.
April 14, 2009 8:10:32 AM

No. Don't wait. It will be 2010 before DX11 is officially launched. After that you have to wait a long time for DX11 games to come out. Just get the card. And as ravenware says, what are you upgrading from?
April 14, 2009 2:18:48 PM

Hi guys, thanx for your replies. I'm not upgrade from anything, i'm building a new PC from scratch and i wont to make it high end so that's why i need to go with the best card. May that be gtx 295 or 4870x2.

If i have to wait for the card, that means i have to wait for the whole PC,so what do you really suggest?

Plus i'm from Europe, so i'f 4890x2 comes to you in 2 months who knows when it will show up here, so really what shall i do?
April 14, 2009 2:45:08 PM

therock003 said:
Hi guys, thanx for your replies. I'm not upgrade from anything, i'm building a new PC from scratch and i wont to make it high end so that's why i need to go with the best card. May that be gtx 295 or 4870x2.

If i have to wait for the card, that means i have to wait for the whole PC,so what do you really suggest?

Plus i'm from Europe, so i'f 4890x2 comes to you in 2 months who knows when it will show up here, so really what shall i do?


OK, since you're building now, there is no sense whatsoever to wait for DX11. The main thing you need to consider is what use you intend for the card. If its for gaming and you value price/performance, the 4870X2 is the one to get. If you have lots of money and don't care about price, only performance, then get the 295. One other consideration is Folding@Home. If you do that, the 295 will work faster and suffer fewer early unit ends. But I think the best value and gaming belongs to ATI at the moment.

Going back to DX11 for a moment, ask yourself; how many games are out there which are DX10? DX10 has been around for awhile, yet the number of games demanding it are relatively few. Even if a DX11 card gets produced this coming fall, it may be a year or two before games will come out for it. By that time, any card you by now, or in the fall, will be outdated. Result, don't concern yourself about DX11 now.

April 14, 2009 3:08:26 PM

sailer said:
OK, since you're building now, there is no sense whatsoever to wait for DX11. The main thing you need to consider is what use you intend for the card. If its for gaming and you value price/performance, the 4870X2 is the one to get. If you have lots of money and don't care about price, only performance, then get the 295. One other consideration is Folding@Home. If you do that, the 295 will work faster and suffer fewer early unit ends. But I think the best value and gaming belongs to ATI at the moment.

Going back to DX11 for a moment, ask yourself; how many games are out there which are DX10? DX10 has been around for awhile, yet the number of games demanding it are relatively few. Even if a DX11 card gets produced this coming fall, it may be a year or two before games will come out for it. By that time, any card you by now, or in the fall, will be outdated. Result, don't concern yourself about DX11 now.



Well said Sailer.

If you are building a new unit, waiting is just something you can not afford... I builtmy PC four months ago and I first went for the 4850x2 1GB to change later to hd4870 and now to 2 x hd4870 1gb. The reason I went from hd4850x2 1gb to hd4870 1gb was that I wanted the 1GB Video RAM per GPU and at that time the HD4850x2 2GB was over my price range, so I went for a single HD4870 1GB and I just purchased my 2nd HD4870 1GB Vapor-x yesterday.

My PC is also quiet, and HD4850x2 was a bit on the noisy side, and I wasnt able to find an aftermarket cooler for it.
April 14, 2009 3:44:32 PM

Performance/Price - 4870x2 or GTX 260 SLI
Performance - GTX295 or GTX285 SLI
April 14, 2009 4:16:57 PM

You will end up waiting for the "next gen" hardware permanently, there's always something new around the corner. So If you don't live in the US (like myself), the best you can get now is a 4870x2, it has a great performance but you need a really good and solid PSU to handle it. Keep that in my if you want to go with the 4870x2 option.
a b U Graphics card
April 14, 2009 5:09:24 PM

Guys, enough! A DX10 card can NOT do DX11, PERIOD. According to Microsofts own WDDM they put in place, you either support all the features, or none at all. Any talk of a DX10 card doing any form of DX11 is just plain wrong; thats like saying a 7800GTX can run some DX10 features.

Now then, as I've said before, DX11, just like DX10, won't be widly adopted. You have the split code base between XP and Vista/7, and XP DX9.0c is the lowest standard. Secondly, games that are already being designed will not implement DX11 at all, so it will be a year, minimum before any DX11 features (let along games) come out, and most of those games will have DX9.0 supported as their 'base' engine, with some later DX thrown on top for those who meet the requirements.

If M$ really wanted DX to progress, they would port it to XP to re-unify the code base. Until that happens, as long as XP remains with decent market share, DX 9.0c will be the standard. The fact no games are strict DX10 proves my point.
April 14, 2009 5:22:50 PM

Another question. What if i buy now, a dx10 card, then when need be, i upgrade to a dx10 card and pair the old one with another dx10 card.

So that leaves me with a triple crossfire 16x8x8 where the one on the x16 bus is the dx11 and the pair sits on the x8 buses.

Is that possible, or is this scenario a creation of fiction? I just expressed a thought here.
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