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AMD X4 810 or q8200?

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June 26, 2009 10:00:31 PM

Basically, I am building a new desktop. New motherboard, hard drives, CPU, power suply, case, firewire etc. All new.

So, AMD Phenom II X4 810 or Core 2 Quad q8200? I use this computer for a little gaming, video editing, 3-D animation, and just basics (itunes, Office, Email, Web-surfing, etc)

They were both similar in price ($140-AMD and $160-Intel) but the AMD was a 2.6 GHz and the Intel is 2.33 GHZ. The AMD has a larger cache than the Intel. But I am not sure. I know the motherboards required would be different, but that is not an issue.

Also, I am not interested in the AMD 920 or 940 because they don't work with DDR3which would probably be required for future upgrades on this system.

I am not looking for an Intel and AMD war, just which of these 2 processors is best. Any help is appreciated!! I have used Intel in the past, but not very familiar with AMD.

Intel Core 2 Quad- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD Phenom X4 810- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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June 26, 2009 10:13:40 PM

I think the phenom II have a longer lifespan, the 775 is a dead socket, so go with the phenom 2
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June 26, 2009 10:46:41 PM

out of those 2, go with the PII 810 and get some cheap AM3 & DDR3 memories. PII 810 will overclock very well.
June 26, 2009 11:09:37 PM

Okay. I was hoping to be able to overclock a bit. Anyone know what the PII 810 can go to? On air? It is clocked at 2.6 GHz so maybe 3 GHz?
June 26, 2009 11:18:22 PM

reconviperone1 said:
I think the phenom II have a longer lifespan, the 775 is a dead socket, so go with the phenom 2


How about future proof? Intel Quad or AMD x4?
June 26, 2009 11:26:59 PM

intel234 said:
Okay. I was hoping to be able to overclock a bit. Anyone know what the PII 810 can go to? On air? It is clocked at 2.6 GHz so maybe 3 GHz?



My friend has it @ 3.4 GHz (1.5V / 262 HT)with AM3 ASUS M4A78T-E 790GX motherboard and OCZ 4GB DDR3 1600. He has Xigmatek S1284 as a cpu cooler. It was having trouble at over 3.5 GHz... bsod and could fail occt & prime.
June 26, 2009 11:30:11 PM

intel234 said:
How about future proof? Intel Quad or AMD x4?


AMD for sure...

make sure you get AM3 socket (PII 920 & 940 will not work with AM3 board) and AM3 motherboard. Along with nice DDR3 memories.
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June 26, 2009 11:33:39 PM

775 isn't exactly a dead socket.
It'll be supported until 2011, and it's Quads match anything the Phenom II has on the market right now.

And by 2011, AM3 will be an outdated socket as well.
June 26, 2009 11:39:51 PM

AMD PII 810 @ $140(newegg) is a freaken great bargain. 45mn, overclocks above 3 Ghz, runs cool and supports DDR3.

AMD PII 810 @ $140 > Intel Q8200 @ $160.
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June 26, 2009 11:51:58 PM

Well, the support until 2011 is pretty much just a guarantee for business users that there will be replacement parts. A workstation that's on 24/7 could just fry a CPU after all (likely because the fan died) so it's just to placate their business customers that there will be parts available. Anything new released on 775 though will simply be lower power versions of whats out now. Once LGA 1156 comes out, along with the i5s, don't expect any faster LGA 775 CPUs.

AM3 on the other hand is going to be AMDs socket for a while. Bulldozer is going to be AM3, but it is going to do away with the DDR2 controller so it won't be able to work with older AM2/AM2+ boards. I don't think AMD is in a position to put as much effort to make good on it's promise of significantly raising the IPC of the phenom (gotta put R&D into bulldozer after all), but thanks to the formation of global foundries I think they will be able to offer high-k die electric for some massively overclockable CPUs. Of course, it has to be demanded by other foundry customers too in order for it to be profitable for AMD to implement.
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June 27, 2009 12:06:05 AM

i have a Phenom II X4 810 and it works great, OC's very easily to 3.2GHz (stock cooler from Athlon X2 6000+)
June 27, 2009 12:14:30 AM

Thanks for the replys. One more thing: does the 810 support DDR2 memory?
June 27, 2009 12:19:49 AM

yes it supports ddr2... if you're building a new rig, best to go with am3 board with ddr3 memory.
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