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March 26, 2009 5:42:21 AM

Building a gaming system, not going full out but want something that'll last for a good while. Been quite awhile since I've built one up so appreciate all the advice and comments from ya's.

Mobo - ASUS M4A79 Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - $199

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - $215

CORSAIR Dominator 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Quad Kit Desktop Memory - $154

* Just a note on the Mobo specs - *Due to AMD CPU limitation, DDR2 1066 is supported by AM2+ / AM3 CPU for one DIMM per channel only * Will this ram work with this Mobo?

Video - SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - $190

PSU - Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - $144

Case - Was thinking Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case but am very open to input on this - $60

Figure I would also want some better/extra cooling and would appreciate some thoughts on what to get in that area.

Any and all help is appreciated thanks.





March 26, 2009 5:54:57 AM

Here this psu is cheaper more reliable and gives you more headroom for upgrading

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W $129.99 $109 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009

That ram wont comply to great for that board in single 1 gig sticks so id suggest.

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) $65.00 $45.00 after mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145214

And this cpu cooler has amazing reviews all around./

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler $36.99 $26.99 after mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

Edit: That motherboard and cpu are available in a combo deal here :)  Shaves off 55 bones
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.165049

Yay more savings $$

that build will be beastly man.
March 26, 2009 6:02:26 AM

Well dont get the 4X1GB kit...might increase the latency...get a 2X2GB kit...cheaper and better...
And get the Corsair 750TX...better than the thermaltake but is not modular...

Well here are a few suggestions...
CPU+ mobo combo...saves some money...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM choices...
get any of these...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE + PSU
The case has very gud air flow and has many fan slots...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

As for the CPU cooler...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 26, 2009 6:04:51 AM

JaredAudiophileGamer said:
Here this psu is cheaper more reliable and gives you more headroom for upgrading

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W $129.99 $109 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009

That ram wont comply to great for that board in single 1 gig sticks so id suggest.

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) $65.00 $45.00 after mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145214

And this cpu cooler has amazing reviews all around./

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler $36.99 $26.99 after mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

Edit: That motherboard and cpu are available in a combo deal here :)  Shaves off 55 bones
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.165049

Yay more savings $$

that build will be beastly man.


Lolz now u first :p 

Well that PSU is available with a CM 690 combo, that I have listed...
March 26, 2009 6:14:17 AM

ahaha this is madness ooh yeah good case and psu combo.
March 26, 2009 6:38:28 AM

Well it just reinforces the choices when 2 people are posting the same things, great help guys, specially witht the combo finds.

WRT the cooling fans, the cons i was reading about them were generally size related, with the cases you suggested would they fit no prob?
March 26, 2009 7:14:23 AM

@op, you don,t need all this bs "gaming" ram with heatsinks and crap unless you heavily overclock; ddr2 800 is more than enough, and the performance difference in real life is almost nothing due to the integrated memory controller. Having ENOUGH ram will always make a bigger difference vs having less but faster ram.

"* Just a note on the Mobo specs - *Due to AMD CPU limitation, DDR2 1066 is supported by AM2+ / AM3 CPU for one DIMM per channel only * Will this ram work with this Mobo? "

What that means is that you can only use2 dims at 1066, and in single channel mode too, no dual channel, because of only 1 dimm per bank, better to just buy ddr2 800 and use dual channel because in dual channel you'll get twice the memory bandwith. This should more than offset the minor speed difference (but half bandwidth essentially) of the 1066.
March 26, 2009 6:30:07 PM

gkay09 said:
Well about the RAM I have to agree...
You dont have to go for those kits...we gave it because it was better than the one you had chosen...

This is my fav and for many others too...
GSkillz PI Black...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


When I said "bs" in reference toi the ram, i was not meaning to sound like I'm insulting you guys, I mean it towards the manufacturers who make it sound like their ultra uber ram will overclock to 10 jillion gigahertz, and wipe your ass while making your computer do a dance all because it has some "super keen neato" heatsink on it.

The real major factor being that they simply binned better parts to begin with...

The whole problem is one of appealing to the "blue led/case window" crowd...so slap on some leds to your ram and call it "xTREME"...yes you corsair --->

..All of the ram you guys like is good, I just wish more ppl knew that decent chips and timings matter more than shiny fins and lights ..it's just bonus for the non hardcore occing crowd and yet companies make it sound like your computer will be SOOOOO slow without it...

That said, i think it's fine to buy those too if you need that last few percent performance or because it looks awesome in your case..
March 26, 2009 6:46:10 PM

royalcrown said:
@op, you don,t need all this bs "gaming" ram with heatsinks and crap unless you heavily overclock; ddr2 800 is more than enough, and the performance difference in real life is almost nothing due to the integrated memory controller. Having ENOUGH ram will always make a bigger difference vs having less but faster ram.

"* Just a note on the Mobo specs - *Due to AMD CPU limitation, DDR2 1066 is supported by AM2+ / AM3 CPU for one DIMM per channel only * Will this ram work with this Mobo? "

What that means is that you can only use2 dims at 1066, and in single channel mode too, no dual channel, because of only 1 dimm per bank, better to just buy ddr2 800 and use dual channel because in dual channel you'll get twice the memory bandwith. This should more than offset the minor speed difference (but half bandwidth essentially) of the 1066.



This is so wrong its not funny .

The mb warning specifically states its one DIMM per CHANNEL . That means that a 2x2 gb kit will run at 1066 MHz in DUAL channel mode .

The onboard memory controller of phenom means the cpu can access the meory at higher speeds and higher bandwidth . You do get a small performance increase by using 1066 MHz RAM .
With systems like intels C2D this isnt the case because memory access is limited by the motherboard link through the nb chipset .

Phenoms system performance will increase with faster ram
a 2x2 gig kit will run in dual channel
definitely dont use 4 x1 gig dimms as this configuration is slower
March 26, 2009 6:58:42 PM

By my calculations, you are paying about the same for your CPU, MB and RAM as it would cost to get an i7-920, a cheap X58 MB and 6GB of DDR3 RAM. Even with discounts and combo deals, you are probably only saving $100 and are locking yourself into yesteday's technology.

I hasten to add that I am not an Intel fanboy... I thought the Athlon 64 was a great processor and, at the moment, AMD's ATI GPUs beat nVidia on price/performance comfortably. Still, the i7-920 does seem to be one of those processors that is likely to earn legendary status with the capability to be overclocked from 2.66 to 3.4 or more using air cooling.

Just a thought for you.
March 26, 2009 7:51:35 PM

Siggy19 said:
By my calculations, you are paying about the same for your CPU, MB and RAM as it would cost to get an i7-920, a cheap X58 MB and 6GB of DDR3 RAM. Even with discounts and combo deals, you are probably only saving $100 and are locking yourself into yesteday's technology.

I hasten to add that I am not an Intel fanboy... I thought the Athlon 64 was a great processor and, at the moment, AMD's ATI GPUs beat nVidia on price/performance comfortably. Still, the i7-920 does seem to be one of those processors that is likely to earn legendary status with the capability to be overclocked from 2.66 to 3.4 or more using air cooling.

Just a thought for you.



An equivalent quality i7 system looks like being around $150 more on newegg using their combo deal . Maybe you could shave $50 off by buying lower quality mb but that doesnt sound like good value to me .
Of course you wont get higher fps in games because the 4870 is the limitation not the cpu . Arguably you have paid $150 more for an unbalanced system . Arguably you have given yourself headroom for $150 .
Either way most people buy to a budget . If you have more you buy the i7 , if you want a good return on your dollar today you buy phenom
March 26, 2009 7:53:10 PM

Outlander_04 said:
This is so wrong its not funny .

The mb warning specifically states its one DIMM per CHANNEL . That means that a 2x2 gb kit will run at 1066 MHz in DUAL channel mode .

The onboard memory controller of phenom means the cpu can access the meory at higher speeds and higher bandwidth . You do get a small performance increase by using 1066 MHz RAM .
With systems like intels C2D this isnt the case because memory access is limited by the motherboard link through the nb chipset .

Phenoms system performance will increase with faster ram
a 2x2 gig kit will run in dual channel
definitely dont use 4 x1 gig dimms as this configuration is slower



Yah, it was 4am, i read it wrong, you're right. It just limits memory capacity at 1066.
March 26, 2009 8:07:56 PM

And would that still work if I were using 4 X 2GB @1066?
March 26, 2009 8:11:05 PM

The budget I'm looking at is approx $1000 CAN, this is a system I'm looking to build for a buddy of mine, I plan on building something similar in about a month or so for myself, and was thinking about giving the new ATI card a try that's suppose to come out in April.
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