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Best Mobo for Phenom II X4 940 with DDR2-1066 and SLI

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March 27, 2009 11:41:06 PM

Hey all,
I've been researching motherboards for a couple days now and I can't seem to find a good solid one that supports both the PII 940 and nVidia video cards. My life would be so much easier if I weren't so picky and wouldn't mind buying ATI cards or an Intel CPU, but I've decided to go with AMD and nVidia. I would love to grab a good EVGA board but they all seem to be Intel boards.
As a side note, I would also like DDR2-1066 support because I wanted to underclock it and tighten up timings a lot, but I can live with DDR2-800 if I have to.
Any suggestions from you guys? Any and all input would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
March 27, 2009 11:52:37 PM

Can't do it :p 

Get a single nVidia card or go ATI ;) 

Or spend a bit more and get an X58 board and a faster i7 920.
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March 28, 2009 12:26:10 AM

I don't think an EVGA board is made that supports SLI and AMD. There isn't one listed on their site at least.
March 28, 2009 12:30:43 AM

Jared,
That is a Crossfire board, correct? So I can't SLI with it?
Am I just better off picking Intel+nVidia or AMD+ATI??
March 28, 2009 12:37:19 AM

i think these days to get the most performance for your money its best to go with amd + ati, nvidia has been making junk chipsets lately but pretty good gpus, but ati has started to take over the gpu market crossfire has become a very popular term these days.
and no you cant sli with it, and to be honest i was an nvidia fan for a long while and wouldnt settle for anything else, but after doing the research i found that ati is the best way to go these days.
March 28, 2009 12:51:19 AM

I currently have an ATI video card, but the one I had before this was an nVidia. The reason I prefer nVidia to ATI is purely the drivers. I think nVidia has a much better handle on that. In fact, the reason I wanted to go with an nVidia is because I dislike CCC so much. However, I haven't bought a new video card in some years (I still have AGP), so maybe they've gotten better about it since then?
March 28, 2009 1:02:41 AM

I thought I posted this, but it must have been dropped.

nVidia HAS announced a new SLI chipset for am2/AM3. It's called the 980a and is not available yet. It may or may not be worthwhile... I saw some comments that the onboard cooling needs improvement just like the 790i.
March 28, 2009 1:13:36 AM

absolutely man i think its worlds better then they were
March 28, 2009 1:30:50 AM

My 4870 is rock solid and fast, not to mention running cool.
March 28, 2009 2:32:16 AM

Sweet guys, thanks alot! If you don't mind I'll ask a couple more questions pertaining to my new build, but not directly associated with processor/mobo compatibility.

How do all of these parts look as a $1000 budget build?

CPU/Mobo combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Video card (future crossfire?): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Of course I'll get some Arctic Silver 5 and some extra cables to connect the fans, but other than that how does it look? Any ideas/suggestions?

Thanks!!
March 28, 2009 2:49:32 AM

I'm sure the board is nice. Don't install the ASUS utility junk though.

Spend a bit more and get a high quality cooler. There is no reason not to at least bump your multiplier up a bit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Unless you really want green colored RAM, this has the same specs and is cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Otherwise go for the high quality stuff:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wrong link on the GPU.

This combo is really nice, and this case is better cooled and roomier than the Antec 300:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
You can drop the fans that way too.

For the money today, I think this is the best bang for the buck:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Ummm... check that combo. You might want to snap that up now. Gotta be a misprint. That's practically a free 640GB drive.
March 28, 2009 4:10:30 AM

Yeah I pretty much decided to go for all that stuff except I picked the Patriot over the G Skill memory. I don't need crazy ram, I've lived with 166mhz PC2700 for five years, I doubt I'll be able to tell the difference between the two you recommended. I also hope that the HUGE cpu cooler you persuaded me to choose won't block ALL of my dimm slots!
Thank you again so much for all of your help!!

P.S. I fixed the link before you replied, but apparently you still got the bad one. Oh, and just for the record I'm not planning on building this for a few months due to lack of funds right now. So hopefully some prices will go down or I'll be able to add an upgrade here and there for the same price!
March 28, 2009 4:12:35 AM

Get an Asrock K10N780SLIX3-WiFi. It supports 2 and 3 way sli, ddr2-1066 and the phenom II 940. I use it and its a very good board for its price. It is also a very good board for overclocking. i run my cpu at 4.5ghz on it.
March 28, 2009 7:42:36 AM

rav3n,
I looked at that board and I decided against it because of its limited SLI compatibility with the majority of nVidia manufacturers. In actuality, there are only 4 cards on the SLI compatible list and only two of them are the GTX series, as you can see here: http://www.asrock.com/mb/vga.asp?c=SLI3&Model=K10N780SL...
If I went with nVidia I would want an EVGA card because they are known to be high quality and high performance.
However, thank you for your input and if you have any other ideas please post them!
March 28, 2009 8:15:37 AM

@bmbvenom

Thats only a list of cards they tested. I have a friend that runs evga gtx 280's in sli and i run 2 inno3d gtx260's without problem. And to be completely honest sli is a total waste of money. You will rarely see much of a performance gain anyway as most games don't support multi gpu's. You would be much better just getting a high end card then wasting your money on sli. :) 
March 28, 2009 8:34:05 AM

If you want to future proof it then the 920 AM3 is coming out soon and ddr3 is getting pretty cheap now. Only part that would up the price would be the mobo.
March 28, 2009 5:37:08 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you couldn't use DD3 RAM with a PII X4 940.... is this a misconception?
March 28, 2009 6:51:24 PM

New DDR3 Phenom IIs are coming. PII 945 or some such. I'm skeptical about them being any better, but we may see fairly soon.
March 28, 2009 7:23:20 PM

Does anyone have a rough time frame or price estimate on the new DDR3 Phenom IIs?
I can't find anything about them on the AMD site....
March 29, 2009 5:23:18 AM

If you wanted ddr3 my suggestion would be to wait until the new am3 cpu's and am3 mobo's come out. The current am3 boards don't show much of a performance gain over the am2+ boards. Or you could always build a core i7 system like i am preparing to do... :) 
March 29, 2009 5:23:53 AM

If you wanted ddr3 my suggestion would be to wait until the new am3 cpu's and am3 mobo's come out. The current am3 boards don't show much of a performance gain over the am2+ boards. Or you could always build a core i7 system like i am preparing to do... :) 
March 29, 2009 5:25:19 AM

If you wanted ddr3 my suggestion would be to wait until the new am3 cpu's and am3 mobo's come out. The current am3 boards don't show much of a performance gain over the am2+ boards. Or you could always build a core i7 system like i am preparing to do... :) 
March 29, 2009 6:14:50 AM

I don't have the cash for an i7 build; I'm on somewhat of a budget and I can't blow a third of the money I have on my processor =P
Maybe I'll just wait for the new AM3 processors come out and grab one of those...
March 29, 2009 6:38:42 AM

True luckily the i7 system i'll be building is for a client that doesn't care how much money it costs. I would say just wait for the am3 phenom II 945. It's clocked a bit higher at 3.25(correct me if im wrong) and go for one of the new asus am3 mob's that will be out in the near future. Also corsair xms3 ram is looking pretty cheap (about $165AUD for 3gig kit) so now could be a good time to start getting parts together. The main thing to remember when building a new system is that every dollar you save on one part is money that can be spent on another part.
March 29, 2009 7:47:11 AM

Ok i was sure that i read somewhere that the am3 version of the phenomII 940 was clocked at 3.25 but anyway thats why they made overclocking. What brands are the ddr3 kits or do you have a link to the page there on?
March 29, 2009 7:47:44 AM

Ok i was sure that i read somewhere that the am3 version of the phenomII 940 was clocked at 3.25 but anyway thats why they made overclocking. What brands are the ddr3 kits or do you have a link to the page there on?
March 29, 2009 7:49:41 AM

Ok i was sure that i read somewhere that the am3 version of the phenomII 940 was clocked at 3.25 but anyway thats why they made overclocking. What brands are the ddr3 kits or do you have a link to the page there on?
March 29, 2009 7:53:20 AM

The sub-$100 DDR3 is fine. Prices are just coming down.
March 29, 2009 8:04:37 AM

well this actually a nice kit of ram id say it might justbe beneficial to go am3 at this point
Patriot Viper 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

combo deals aside ill compare an am2+ setup with the 720 be and an am3

AM2+ With DDR2

Motherboard = GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-UD4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX $138.99

Processor = AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 $135.99

Memory = Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) $69.99

Total = 344.97

AM3 With DDR3

Motherboard = GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X $139.99

Processor = AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 $135.99

Memory = Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) $98.99

Total = $368.97

Exactly a $24 Dollar Difference Using Essentially The Same Standard Of Components.
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