4770 benchmarks

lolz better stay away from that...

Well, assuming the blue line is the HD 4850's FPS on the particular game and the red line is the HD 4770's FPS on the same game, at the same settings.... that's awesome.

Average is that it's 94.5% as fast as the HD 4850, and if it comes out at $99, that'd mean the HD 4850 should cost (to retain an equal P/P ratio) $105. So... big win for consumers 'cause that won't happen (yet). And it SHOULD have lower power consumption/noise, so, bonus there, too.

I'm stoked.

The only significant place the HD 4770 loses to the HD 4850 is in memory bandwidth, actually. And I believe the lowest grade GDDR5 is rated at 900Mhz, so there should be some potential, there.

But the HD 4850 can OC too, so I prefer to stay stock when doing comparisons, unless we find that the HD 4770 does, in fact, have a lot of headroom.

If those are true then the prices of everything above above it in performance would have to come down?

You can pick up a Sapphire HD 4850 with dual slot cooler on newegg for 105 after rebate. Notice that it's not the stock ATI cooler.

I guess I don't understand the need for this product, especially when the HD4830 already performs better then the 8/9800GT.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161260

I don't think there was ever a need for this card, however, it IS an advancement of technology (as it's done on a 40nm process), and that is plenty to bring it out. It doesn't bring any higher performance, just (likely) more performance per watt, more performance per dollar (well... a little, maybe), and something for ATI to work on their 40nm process with.

So really, it's just a card they made to test the 40nm process, increase yields on what may have sold very well (HD 4830's and 50's), and maybe make a buck in the process.

So... the positioning of the card seems good to me, especially since it'll likely use less power than the HD 4850, and its price seems to be pretty well in line.

The need for the card is simple enough. It removes the 8800gt/9800gt from the picture. You would never buy one of those now, yet people still bought the 9800gt over the 4830.

I assume Nvidia will have to drop prices on those by a pretty large margin, and also drop the gtx250 to around the $100 mark.

I agree, the graphs are terrible. I really wish we had info, too (resolution, settings, etc.)