I figured out the problem, I had to download RivaTuner to manually set the fan speed to 75%. It was over heating. My cards are aparently overclocked from the factory. I guess I got lucky because it's only supposed to be at 666 with the BFG OC version but these are at 694, sweet. and these won't overclock with Rivatuner AT ALL, even 2 clicks, crash.
I've never used Nvidia before, Why don't they have an overclocking/fan utility in control center? RivaTuner is the only program I know of that can control those options, unlike CCC where it's built in.
I just sold (2) 4870x2's I had in crossfireX (4 gpus) for these (2) GTX 285's, and i'll tell you what, the performance is much better. I was always getting random slow downs, hicups, and glitches with those ATI's.
Vantage Perfomance GPU score is 23800, with the ATI's best I could get was 25000. But the smoothness of these 285's is just amazing. Sorry ATI.