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April 26, 2009 10:47:48 PM

Right now, I am running an...

AMD Phenom 9950 OCed@3.2 GHZ
8Gb GSkill RAM (4-4-4-12)
ASUS Radeon HD4850 (two in CF)
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit (Legit :D )

Thats all that is really needed to be known.

Well, I think I am done with CF/SLI. We are heading into the Duel-GPU ara and, ya, CF/SLI look cool, but is it really needed anymore? I dont think so. I mean with cars like the 3750X2, 4850X2, 4870X2, 9800GX2, etc. There is no need for the CF/SLI.

I am thinking of trading my two ASUS 4850's in for $400.00CND and adding $100.00 to buy a new card. ATI have been doing good, but with all honesty, I prefered NVIDIA more.

My question is... What should I get now?

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April 26, 2009 10:58:12 PM

CF/SLi will be around for a long time...the entire reason for SLi/Xfire is it gives people
better price-for-performance.

Two 4850s costs around $280, and performs better than a GTX280/285, which costs around $350-$400
April 26, 2009 11:01:12 PM

Bluescreendeath said:
CF/SLi will be around for a long time...the entire reason for SLi/Xfire is it gives people
better price-for-performance.

Two 4850s costs around $280, and performs better than a GTX280/285, which costs around $350-$400


I dont know, these 4850's must not like me than.
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April 27, 2009 12:54:07 AM

the x2 cards use crossfire and sli. I will always choose 2 single cards over one x2 card.
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April 27, 2009 1:11:00 AM

To run two cards, you usually need a stronger psu, a more expensive motherboard, and better case cooling. That negates, some of the cost advantages of two cards.
In addition, sli/crossfire performance depends on the drivers and games. It does not scale to 2x the performance, but something less, depending.

To my mind, a better single gpu card is prefereble if it will do the job.
The GTX285 or 4890 will run everything decently. Better than that, you are not looking at value.

If you want more, the next best are the single cards with two gpu's, like the 4870X2 or the GTX295.





April 27, 2009 1:30:25 AM

So what single GPU or duel GPU card can out-performer 4850 CF
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April 27, 2009 3:10:27 AM

amuseme said:
So what single GPU or duel GPU card can out-performer 4850 CF

The GTX285 or 4890 is in the same performance tier as the 4850X2. Being single gpu cards, they are not subjest to some inconsistencies.

As a single card, albeit dual gpu, the GTX295 or 4870X2 should outperform the 4850-cf. They are also more expensive, so the value of the 4850-cf is still pretty good.
April 27, 2009 3:14:44 AM

geofelt said:
The GTX285 or 4890 is in the same performance tier as the 4850X2. Being single gpu cards, they are not subjest to some inconsistencies.

As a single card, albeit dual gpu, the GTX295 or 4870X2 should outperform the 4850-cf. They are also more expensive, so the value of the 4850-cf is still pretty good.


Will there be a significant difference from two 4850's to a 4870X2, or GTX 295?
April 27, 2009 3:16:37 AM

geofelt said:
To run two cards, you usually need a stronger psu, a more expensive motherboard, and better case cooling. That negates, some of the cost advantages of two cards.
In addition, sli/crossfire performance depends on the drivers and games. It does not scale to 2x the performance, but something less, depending.

To my mind, a better single gpu card is prefereble if it will do the job.
The GTX285 or 4890 will run everything decently. Better than that, you are not looking at value.

If you want more, the next best are the single cards with two gpu's, like the 4870X2 or the GTX295.

I disagree about he x2 cards being next best thing. you are running to same if not more heat as 2 cards in sli or cf and power requirements are almost the same. I would still take a single card or 2 cards over one x2 card.
April 27, 2009 3:17:57 AM

amuseme said:
Will there be a significant difference from two 4850's to a 4870X2, or GTX 295?

There is a large difference as 4870x2 is equivalent to 2 4870 and the 295 is like oced gtx 260's. Hell you can even get a single 4890 or gtx 285 to oc and get better results than a 4850x2
April 27, 2009 3:20:29 AM

geofelt said:
The GTX285 or 4890 is in the same performance tier as the 4850X2. Being single gpu cards, they are not subjest to some inconsistencies.

As a single card, albeit dual gpu, the GTX295 or 4870X2 should outperform the 4850-cf. They are also more expensive, so the value of the 4850-cf is still pretty good.


chef7734 said:
I disagree about he x2 cards being next best thing. you are running to same if not more heat as 2 cards in sli or cf and power requirements are almost the same. I would still take a single card or 2 cards over one x2 card.


Whats wrong with the 'X2' cards? Also than, what SINGLE GPU card would be an upgrade, if any, from my 4850s
April 27, 2009 3:23:22 AM

amuseme said:
Whats wrong with the 'X2' cards? Also than, what SINGLE GPU card would be an upgrade, if any, from my 4850s

It is a personal preference. In my eyes the benefits of 2 cards outway the benefits of a single x2 card some will see it the other way around.
April 27, 2009 3:25:00 AM

amuseme said:
Whats wrong with the 'X2' cards? Also than, what SINGLE GPU card would be an upgrade, if any, from my 4850s

Well you can oc a 4890 to faster speeds, oc a gtx 285 also, get a 4870x2 and if they ever come out with a 4890x2. All would be an upgrade from 2 4850's
April 27, 2009 3:31:57 AM

geofelt said:
The GTX285 or 4890 is in the same performance tier as the 4850X2. Being single gpu cards, they are not subjest to some inconsistencies.

As a single card, albeit dual gpu, the GTX295 or 4870X2 should outperform the 4850-cf. They are also more expensive, so the value of the 4850-cf is still pretty good.


chef7734 said:
Well you can oc a 4890 to faster speeds, oc a gtx 285 also, get a 4870x2 and if they ever come out with a 4890x2. All would be an upgrade from 2 4850's


What has the most potential?
The 4890 is $379, the 285 is 499, and the 4870X2 is 600

EDIT: I am thinking of buying one 4890, and getting a second later
April 27, 2009 3:33:34 AM

I would probably go 4890 and oc it since you have a cf board. You could always add a second one.
April 27, 2009 3:53:22 AM

Ya, Crossfire 4890's look real nice. :) 
April 27, 2009 4:25:01 AM

I could sell the whole thing and buy a

MSI X58 Pro i7
Intel Core i7 920 (+$364 for the 940)
Transcended 6GB DDR3
Saphire Radeon 4870X2 or a Zotac Geforce 295(+30)
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April 27, 2009 1:48:41 PM

In what way is your current system lacking?
Why do you want to trade it up?

Is it for games? Is your gameplay poor/just ok/ or, I need the best?
Are the games you play limited by cpu power? Are they multi core enabled?


Do you do lots of cpu bound multitasking and need more cpu power?

A high end vga card update will only be a temporary solution. New 40nm cards will be here by the end of the year, making anything you buy now somewhat outdated.

April 27, 2009 3:07:41 PM

amuseme I had a problem with two 4830's in crossfire, I didn't see any performance increase from 1 4830 untill I enabled Catalyst A.I to advanced.

Make sure you have that enabled!
April 27, 2009 6:53:04 PM

Maybe I should just wait and start saving to replace the whole thing?
April 27, 2009 7:54:20 PM

Go all out and get the GTX295, the rest of the system looks good enough.
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