heh - Charlie managed to free himself and assault another keyboard...
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Reply to Scotteq
"Along comes Google and says, in effect, "You can do everything you need to on the net with our widget that uses only 1/4 the CPU power of a Windows machine, 1/4 the RAM, half the storage space, and we consume 1/2 the wattage". "
If you have access to decent (reliable and affordable) broadband. Many don't.
LOL MS isn't gonna fall anytime soon. We don't know how well google chrome OS is actually gonna run. And bottom line is if it has compatibility issues it won't have any more users then other linux OS. Netbooks already have linux,..etc.. for them so what makes Chrome so much better?
And for desktops I personally don't want to have to deal with a bunch of crap just to play a game. Is chrome gonna let me do this? Or is it gonna be like any other type of linux were I got to do a bunch of crap just to get it to work.
Until an OS comes out that has linux security/dependability, and windows compatibility. Nothing is gonna change. And as far how it runs.. I got a ford escort that does 300mph! I said it, it must be true.
On the low end x86 is going against the arm architecture, and lets forget for a minute that Intel has it's own ARM cpus. Despite the fact that in many ways ARM is more efficient, most software is optimized for x86 architecture. Even on the Open source world where you can recompile it, the algorithims themselves are often designed to work with the 'quirky' x86 architecture thus leaving the theoretically more efficient ARM architecture at a disadvantage for that particular application.
Even with an efficient Google OS, ARM isn't meant for the average desktop user as it's designed to be lean and used in smaller devices. Even if we consider web applications, ARM isn't meant to really be powerful enough to run google docs and open multiple windows at a level that uses, except perhaps the really really really patient ones, would be comfortable with and use to with their current low end desktops.
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Since W7 is adjustably slim, and also supports Windows apps (duh!), I'd say Charlie's predictions are about as accurate as, say, Sharikook's ("Intel BK by 2Q07 - er 2Q08 - er 2Q09 - er..." ).
If Chrome OS does as well as the Chrome browser, MS will hardly break a sweat - according to iSuppli, Chrome has barely 2% of the browser marketshare - i.e.,, stuck solidly in 4th place.
I'd just like to add that I like ARM, but it has it's place. You can learn more about the basics of ARM by visiting Wikipedia, just like everything else .
O'RLLY??? I find that the most overstated, underestimated, and completely off the wall point made in the article, and stopped right there.
Legacy is holding x86 back, and would bring most of these supposed claims to x86 if legacy could somehow be elimanted/emulated/destructified etc.
While Ill agree this may cut into M$ overall share, and point to ARM as the leader, and NOT Chrome, in seeing this change, its still niche with certain requirements. It has a loooong ways to go to ever get to the roots of that ol redwood
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Reply to jaydeejohn
I find that the most overstated, underestimated, and completely off the wall point made in the article, and stopped right there.
Which legacy applications are you going to be running on a $199 600MHz ARM with an 800x600 screen?
Anything that the average user is likely to want to do on a small netbook (e.g. web-browsing, email, basic word processing, calendar) already has open source applications which will run happily on such a system, or Google plan to develop such applications which will run on their web servers. The biggest issues are things like Flash, which Google are certainly in a position to either reimplement themselves if they're based on open standards, or kick the developers into supporting on Google's OS.
If MS aren't pooing their pants at the moment, they don't understand the threat; they live and die by backwards compatibility and if people don't need that anymore then Windows is on life support. Linux has been available for a long time, but what's been missing is a big company like Google willing to throw the resources into making it easy for Joe Sixpack to use.
I understand that. I just dont agree as to his implications , as Chrome being used in many many scnearios, as an every app source OS. For 1, it definately splits the market, and enterprise wont use it, as it wont/cant support Legacy, and also, even Joe sixpack may want higher needs, which no convincng of devs will help, outside of money, and theres a few apps out there to coerce, meaning LOTS of money.
Until they start actually spending that money, itll remain a niche, much like netbooks are now, tho good sized, also not in the ROI Intel is used to seeing, which is a whole other matter, as competition does come forwards.
Like I said, itll cut into M$ margin and Intel margin as well, and provides ARM a great opportunity, but topple M$ and devastate Intel is a ways off, and tho his claims as to M$ and somewhat Intels complacency do exist, when is the last time they were challenged, and I point out, the netbook market was created by Intel, and theyll be flexable eventually also, tho it may impact them more than we currently see, but again, thats for another discussion. M$ will rise to the occasion
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Reply to jaydeejohn
And - sorry Google fans - having Charlie trumpeting your virtues isn't exactly what I woudl call a ringing endorsement
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Reply to jaydeejohn
The single most important thing to take from this announcement right now is just what Chrome OS will do. It won’t run an email client, it won’t run an office suite, and it won’t run games – it will only run Google Chrome. It’s Linux stripped to the bone, left with just enough to run Chrome, and nothing more.
So... If it can't run in a browser, then it can't run...
Sorry guys - If you're looking for your Microsoft~Killer, this clearly ain't "It".
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Reply to jaydeejohn
Yah, Jay - I hadn't even considered that angle: By definition, everything you use would have to be on the Internet because OS isn't capable of running it locally. <shudder>
HEY GUYS!! Great Idea!!!
Let's make HTML5 "The" development platform!! <barf>
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