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Hello,

I'm getting a weird horizontal flicker when playing WMV
videos with the WMP10 OCX embedded in a webpage. The
videos are encoded 320 x 240 with WME9 using WMV9 and WMA
9.1 codecs and small bitrates. I'm testing on a Dell Axim
X50v running WM2003SE.

I've tried many videos but they all flicker. The videos
play fine on a WinXP PC with IE6. What is causing the
flicker? Below is the code I'm using. Please try your own
videos with the code and see what happens. Also, even
though the player is sized 240 x 200, the actual player
size is much larger (around 435 x 365). What's going on there?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
-Al

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Recorded TV</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#6376D6">

<object id="MediaPlayer" width="240" height="200"
class="back"
classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11D3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
type="application/x-oleobject">
<param name="url" value="\Portable Media\Home_movie.wmv">
<param name="autoplay" value="true">
<param name="uimode" value="true">
</object>

</BODY>
</HTML>

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Is it reproducible when using the standalone player ? And how about
the frame rate, maybe it's just not possible for the device to keep up

I'd try encoding at a lower frame rate (eg 15fps, which you might not
notice the difference on an LCD refresh rate). And make sure the Axim
is set to maximum speed, it's possible with high levels of refresh it
might not keep up at 300MHz so try it at 605MHz or whatever the max
CPU speed is.

I also note (it's probably unrelated) :
<param name="uimode" value="true" />

This has param values of "mini", "full" and "none"; A value of "true"
as you have here doesn't appear to be a valid value for this param.

HTH

Cheers - Neil

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:33:43 -0800, "Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I'm getting a weird horizontal flicker when playing WMV
>videos with the WMP10 OCX embedded in a webpage. The
>videos are encoded 320 x 240 with WME9 using WMV9 and WMA
>9.1 codecs and small bitrates. I'm testing on a Dell Axim
>X50v running WM2003SE.
>
>I've tried many videos but they all flicker. The videos
>play fine on a WinXP PC with IE6. What is causing the
>flicker? Below is the code I'm using. Please try your own
>videos with the code and see what happens. Also, even
>though the player is sized 240 x 200, the actual player
>size is much larger (around 435 x 365). What's going on there?
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>-Al
>
><HTML>
><HEAD>
><title>Recorded TV</title>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgcolor="#6376D6">
>
><object id="MediaPlayer" width="240" height="200"
>class="back"
>classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11D3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
>type="application/x-oleobject">
><param name="url" value="\Portable Media\Home_movie.wmv">
><param name="autoplay" value="true">
><param name="uimode" value="true">
></object>
>
></BODY>
></HTML>

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

Thanks for the response Neil. The flickering does not
occur when viewing the videos using WMP10, just the OCX.
The videos I'm testing with are encoded 320 x 240 at 15fps
at very low bitrates. I tried your suggestion and set the
CPU speed to the highest (624 MHz) but that didn't help.
This is really weird. Any other suggestions?

-AJ

>-----Original Message-----
>Is it reproducible when using the standalone player ? And
how about
>the frame rate, maybe it's just not possible for the
device to keep up
>
>I'd try encoding at a lower frame rate (eg 15fps, which
you might not
>notice the difference on an LCD refresh rate). And make
sure the Axim
>is set to maximum speed, it's possible with high levels of
refresh it
>might not keep up at 300MHz so try it at 605MHz or
whatever the max
>CPU speed is.
>
>I also note (it's probably unrelated) :
><param name="uimode" value="true" />
>
>This has param values of "mini", "full" and "none"; A
value of "true"
>as you have here doesn't appear to be a valid value for
this param.
>
>HTH
>
>Cheers - Neil
>
>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:33:43 -0800, "Al Udell"
<alan@yellowknife.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm getting a weird horizontal flicker when playing WMV
>>videos with the WMP10 OCX embedded in a webpage. The
>>videos are encoded 320 x 240 with WME9 using WMV9 and WMA
>>9.1 codecs and small bitrates. I'm testing on a Dell Axim
>>X50v running WM2003SE.
>>
>>I've tried many videos but they all flicker. The videos
>>play fine on a WinXP PC with IE6. What is causing the
>>flicker? Below is the code I'm using. Please try your own
>>videos with the code and see what happens. Also, even
>>though the player is sized 240 x 200, the actual player
>>size is much larger (around 435 x 365). What's going on
there?
>>
>>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>>-Al
>>
>><HTML>
>><HEAD>
>><title>Recorded TV</title>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgcolor="#6376D6">
>>
>><object id="MediaPlayer" width="240" height="200"
>>class="back"
>>classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11D3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
>>type="application/x-oleobject">
>><param name="url" value="\Portable Media\Home_movie.wmv">
>><param name="autoplay" value="true">
>><param name="uimode" value="true">
>></object>
>>
>></BODY>
>></HTML>
>
>.
>

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

use windows media encoder to process your video file to fit for pocket pc.

then try it.

--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
"eRiva Systems" - Where Technology Meets Life, Every Minute.

e-Mail : arvindr@erivasystems.com

Web Site: www.erivasystems.com

Yahoo Messenger : arvish27
"Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com> wrote in message
news:665701c527b8$859de370$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the response Neil. The flickering does not
> occur when viewing the videos using WMP10, just the OCX.
> The videos I'm testing with are encoded 320 x 240 at 15fps
> at very low bitrates. I tried your suggestion and set the
> CPU speed to the highest (624 MHz) but that didn't help.
> This is really weird. Any other suggestions?
>
> -AJ
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Is it reproducible when using the standalone player ? And
> how about
> >the frame rate, maybe it's just not possible for the
> device to keep up
> >
> >I'd try encoding at a lower frame rate (eg 15fps, which
> you might not
> >notice the difference on an LCD refresh rate). And make
> sure the Axim
> >is set to maximum speed, it's possible with high levels of
> refresh it
> >might not keep up at 300MHz so try it at 605MHz or
> whatever the max
> >CPU speed is.
> >
> >I also note (it's probably unrelated) :
> ><param name="uimode" value="true" />
> >
> >This has param values of "mini", "full" and "none"; A
> value of "true"
> >as you have here doesn't appear to be a valid value for
> this param.
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >Cheers - Neil
> >
> >On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:33:43 -0800, "Al Udell"
> <alan@yellowknife.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>I'm getting a weird horizontal flicker when playing WMV
> >>videos with the WMP10 OCX embedded in a webpage. The
> >>videos are encoded 320 x 240 with WME9 using WMV9 and WMA
> >>9.1 codecs and small bitrates. I'm testing on a Dell Axim
> >>X50v running WM2003SE.
> >>
> >>I've tried many videos but they all flicker. The videos
> >>play fine on a WinXP PC with IE6. What is causing the
> >>flicker? Below is the code I'm using. Please try your own
> >>videos with the code and see what happens. Also, even
> >>though the player is sized 240 x 200, the actual player
> >>size is much larger (around 435 x 365). What's going on
> there?
> >>
> >>Any help is greatly appreciated.
> >>-Al
> >>
> >><HTML>
> >><HEAD>
> >><title>Recorded TV</title>
> >></HEAD>
> >><BODY bgcolor="#6376D6">
> >>
> >><object id="MediaPlayer" width="240" height="200"
> >>class="back"
> >>classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11D3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
> >>type="application/x-oleobject">
> >><param name="url" value="\Portable Media\Home_movie.wmv">
> >><param name="autoplay" value="true">
> >><param name="uimode" value="true">
> >></object>
> >>
> >></BODY>
> >></HTML>
> >
> >.
> >

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

Hi Arvind. I just tried a video encoded with the Pocket PC
profile and I still get playback flickering with the OCX.
It plays fine in WMP10. I can supply you with the HTML and
WMV files if you're willing to test (preferable an Axim X50v).

-AJ

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

yes you can send in the files.

--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
"eRiva Systems" - Where Technology Meets Life, Every Minute.

e-Mail : arvindr@erivasystems.com

Web Site: www.erivasystems.com

Yahoo Messenger : arvish27
"Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com> wrote in message
news:011501c528d1$e10b0980$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi Arvind. I just tried a video encoded with the Pocket PC
> profile and I still get playback flickering with the OCX.
> It plays fine in WMP10. I can supply you with the HTML and
> WMV files if you're willing to test (preferable an Axim X50v).
>
> -AJ

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

Thanks Arvind. I've just sent an email to both you and
Neil with a small zip file attachment. Let me know how it
works on your PPC.

-Aj

>-----Original Message-----
>yes you can send in the files.
>
>
>--
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------------------------------
>"eRiva Systems" - Where Technology Meets Life, Every Minute.
>
>e-Mail : arvindr@erivasystems.com
>
>Web Site: www.erivasystems.com
>
>Yahoo Messenger : arvish27
>"Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com> wrote in message
>news:011501c528d1$e10b0980$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hi Arvind. I just tried a video encoded with the Pocket PC
>> profile and I still get playback flickering with the OCX.
>> It plays fine in WMP10. I can supply you with the HTML and
>> WMV files if you're willing to test (preferable an Axim
X50v).
>>
>> -AJ
>
>
>.
>

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

Neil and Arvind. Did you receive the email with test video
and html/ocx code? I need to know if you're getting
flickering during playback.

-AJ

>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks Arvind. I've just sent an email to both you and
>Neil with a small zip file attachment. Let me know how it
>works on your PPC.
>
>-Aj
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>yes you can send in the files.
>>
>>
>>--
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>------------------------------------
>>"eRiva Systems" - Where Technology Meets Life, Every Minute.
>>
>>e-Mail : arvindr@erivasystems.com
>>
>>Web Site: www.erivasystems.com
>>
>>Yahoo Messenger : arvish27
>>"Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com> wrote in message
>>news:011501c528d1$e10b0980$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Arvind. I just tried a video encoded with the Pocket PC
>>> profile and I still get playback flickering with the OCX.
>>> It plays fine in WMP10. I can supply you with the HTML and
>>> WMV files if you're willing to test (preferable an Axim
>X50v).
>>>
>>> -AJ
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

I don't get emails, my email address is as bogus as yours ;-)

Cheers - Neil

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:13:09 -0800,
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Neil and Arvind. Did you receive the email with test video
>and html/ocx code? I need to know if you're getting
>flickering during playback.
>
>-AJ
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Thanks Arvind. I've just sent an email to both you and
>>Neil with a small zip file attachment. Let me know how it
>>works on your PPC.
>>
>>-Aj
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>yes you can send in the files.
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>------------------------------------
>>>"eRiva Systems" - Where Technology Meets Life, Every Minute.
>>>
>>>e-Mail : arvindr@erivasystems.com
>>>
>>>Web Site: www.erivasystems.com
>>>
>>>Yahoo Messenger : arvish27
>>>"Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com> wrote in message
>>>news:011501c528d1$e10b0980$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Arvind. I just tried a video encoded with the Pocket PC
>>>> profile and I still get playback flickering with the OCX.
>>>> It plays fine in WMP10. I can supply you with the HTML and
>>>> WMV files if you're willing to test (preferable an Axim
>>X50v).
>>>>
>>>> -AJ
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

Oops, sorry 'bout that last post. Okay, Neil, can you help
me out? I got flickering with the OCX. I can provide
some files for you to test. What do you say?

-AJ

>-----Original Message-----
>I don't get emails, my email address is as bogus as yours ;-)
>
>Cheers - Neil
>
>On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:13:09 -0800,
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Neil and Arvind. Did you receive the email with test video
>>and html/ocx code? I need to know if you're getting
>>flickering during playback.
>>
>>-AJ
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Thanks Arvind. I've just sent an email to both you and
>>>Neil with a small zip file attachment. Let me know how it
>>>works on your PPC.
>>>
>>>-Aj
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>yes you can send in the files.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>------------------------------------
>>>>"eRiva Systems" - Where Technology Meets Life, Every
Minute.
>>>>
>>>>e-Mail : arvindr@erivasystems.com
>>>>
>>>>Web Site: www.erivasystems.com
>>>>
>>>>Yahoo Messenger : arvish27
>>>>"Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:011501c528d1$e10b0980$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi Arvind. I just tried a video encoded with the
Pocket PC
>>>>> profile and I still get playback flickering with the OCX.
>>>>> It plays fine in WMP10. I can supply you with the
HTML and
>>>>> WMV files if you're willing to test (preferable an Axim
>>>X50v).
>>>>>
>>>>> -AJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
>.
>

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc.multimedia (More info?)

Thats OK. But anyway I don't think I can help you - I don't have a
WMP10 equipped PDA to test with - sorry ! I've got an Axim X3i but I
don't experience your problem on that.

Cheers - Neil

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:22:33 -0800, "Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com>
wrote:

>Oops, sorry 'bout that last post. Okay, Neil, can you help
> me out? I got flickering with the OCX. I can provide
>some files for you to test. What do you say?
>
>-AJ
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I don't get emails, my email address is as bogus as yours ;-)
>>
>>Cheers - Neil
>>
>>On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:13:09 -0800,
>><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Neil and Arvind. Did you receive the email with test video
>>>and html/ocx code? I need to know if you're getting
>>>flickering during playback.
>>>
>>>-AJ
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Thanks Arvind. I've just sent an email to both you and
>>>>Neil with a small zip file attachment. Let me know how it
>>>>works on your PPC.
>>>>
>>>>-Aj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>yes you can send in the files.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>------------------------------------
>>>>>"eRiva Systems" - Where Technology Meets Life, Every
>Minute.
>>>>>
>>>>>e-Mail : arvindr@erivasystems.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Web Site: www.erivasystems.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Yahoo Messenger : arvish27
>>>>>"Al Udell" <alan@yellowknife.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:011501c528d1$e10b0980$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi Arvind. I just tried a video encoded with the
>Pocket PC
>>>>>> profile and I still get playback flickering with the OCX.
>>>>>> It plays fine in WMP10. I can supply you with the
>HTML and
>>>>>> WMV files if you're willing to test (preferable an Axim
>>>>X50v).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -AJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>
>>.
>>

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