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Im building a new comp and i want to know which i should get. All i want to be able to do is run crysis and empire total war with every thing on max at 1920 by 1000 res with at least 30 fps. So i dont know which to get and i wouldnt like to get the 295 cause its so expensive, but i would if it was the only 1 that could max out these games.

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What are your other settings. A 275 should do well.

Reply to chef7734

my system will be i7 920, some x58 mobo(dont know yet) 6gig ram

Reply to sargentchimera

The 295 is probably the only card that can run Crysis with max AA enabled. If your willing to use lower levels but still max out the visuals, the 275 is your best bet.

I take that back actually. Trying to find a review of the GTX275 playing Crysis, I found this review instead of the GTX295 playing Crysis warhead. (a bit easier on the system from what I've heard.) Notice that 19x10 with enthusiast settings and 4AA = 26.2 avg frame rates. Looks like the GTX295 is what you want.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.htm [...] VzaWFzdA==

If the GTX295 is to much, look for the GTX275/285.

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Reply to 4745454b
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If you plan on using AA @1920 on crysis you're gonna need at least a 285. But if crysis isn't as big a deal to you you'll be more than happy with a 275.

Reply to BoBzzz

oh come on... he may be on a budget... an pretty good overclock on an GTX 260 core 216 will do pretty good for Crysis at the settings mentioned above.

 

GTX 260 core 216s retails for $180 at lowest price on newegg, while 275 is still $250, and you only lose about 5% or 10% in peformance, which can be gained back and even exceed the stock performance of the GTX275/280 by some good overclocking.

 

another thing: the higher the resolution, the more useless AA becomes. At 1920x1080 and higher, AA won't make much of a difference, since it is so detailed that you won't see much by turning up the AA at all. AA is meant for the lower resolutions.

 

And, there's a difference in performance between Crysis and Warhead, since Warhead is better optimized than the original. With the same card, you would get an extra 10 FPS over the original, at least on nvidia cards 8800 GT and higher.


Message edited by ChronoBodi on 04-30-2009 at 02:19:10 AM
Reply to ChronoBodi

Excuse you?

He said maxed. I don't know if that meant AA or not. Where is your link showing the GTX260 running at 19x10 on crysis with settings maxed (not counting AA if need be) with playable frame rates? The link I should was playable with the GTX295, on a game better optimized. This means it would be slower on the original crysis, which means you need even better hardware.

He could get the GTX260. But he won't be able to max it out at 19x10.

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Reply to 4745454b

i know, but is he tight on money? i'm only helping here.
There's only minimal differences between the GTX260core216 and the GTX 275, not worth the extra $$$ for that extra 2 FPS.

 

I know there's some people who needs AA at max for some reason, but then again, AA becomes more useless as resolution goes up. There's so many pixels by that point that AA won't give you that much of an improvement over the non-AA picture.

 

Link to Crysis benchmark (non-AA) at bottom
http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga [...] ed-review/

 

Here's a $165 GTX 260 core 216, quite a steal at that price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130482

 

if the re certified link above is gone, here's the regular lowest price for $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130433

 

If he wants to spend more, there's the GTX 275 at lowest price for $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130475

 

If he wants to go bonkers, here's the GTX 285 at $340
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130480

 

If he's batshit insane and is one of those bailed out executives, by all means get the GTX 295 for $530
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121296

 

He could use the leftover $$$ on other parts, like a better heatsink, PSU, whatever.

 

it's a crappy economy out there, it's only a good thing to save some money.


Message edited by ChronoBodi on 04-30-2009 at 03:12:01 AM
Reply to ChronoBodi

on an unrelated note, here's an good Gigabyte motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128375

 

By brands, good ones are Asus, Gigabyte, and DFI

 

ok brands are Biostar, Asrock, Foxconn...

 

avoid everything else.

 

SargentChimera, what parts you still looking at?


Message edited by ChronoBodi on 04-30-2009 at 03:23:36 AM
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Why not just 4890CF/ 4870 1GB CF OC?

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Reply to rags_20

thanks for the replies, i think i might go with the gtx 275 if it will run those games maxed. I dont really care a whole lot about AA, i just usually stick to 2X. I cant really tell i difference after that. Im still looking for good 6 gigs of ram, unless 12 got cheaper, and a motherboard but i might just get the cheapest 1 since im only using a single card, unless theres other stuff the more expensive mobos do besides sli and crossfire.
OH and i dont know how to overclock and am afraid i might ruin the card/cpu if i try so thats out of the question unless i find a place that will do it.

Reply to sargentchimera

Hell you can get 2 260's or 2 275 for less than the price of a 295 and do just as well.

Reply to chef7734

sargentchimera wrote :

thanks for the replies, i think i might go with the gtx 275 if it will run those games maxed. I dont really care a whole lot about AA, i just usually stick to 2X. I cant really tell i difference after that. Im still looking for good 6 gigs of ram, unless 12 got cheaper, and a motherboard but i might just get the cheapest 1 since im only using a single card, unless theres other stuff the more expensive mobos do besides sli and crossfire.
OH and i dont know how to overclock and am afraid i might ruin the card/cpu if i try so thats out of the question unless i find a place that will do it.



for any Geforce card, you can use EVGA Precision utilty, it comes with the GTX cards,

as a general rule, don't overclock the stock speed by more than 100 mhz, this is like the "safe zone" to me.

for example, stock speed of GTX 260 core 216 would be 576 mhz, it can be OCed to 680 just fine. But, you can go higher, only if you have the guts.

That's what i know, refer to the overclocking forums here for more info on that. There's three different clocks to take into account, the example i gave above is an broad generalization: each card has its own quirks, and no two cards are the same results for each OCing attempt.

Reply to ChronoBodi

I'm also finishing up my build so GTX 275 from what I hear can perform pretty close to a stock 285 when OC. My question is I plan on running GTX 275 on a 22" LCD will the 275 be a good pick?

Some user's are OCing the card to this:

710 vcore 1455 shader and 1200 memory

Feedback pls


EVGA 780I
E8400 OC to 3.6 lapped
980 PSU
V8 Coolmaster
Haf 932 Case
4 Gigs of GI Skill PI Black 940MHz 4-4-4-12 w/ 2.1v


Plus I wouldn't mind running SLI later on- :sol:

Reply to armani2468
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Yeah, 275 is good for 1680 x 1050

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Reply to rags_20

Chrono, I do agree with you. I would grab a GTX260/275 depending on my budget. The problem is neither card will let you max out Crysis at 19x10. Your link showed playable frame rates, but with medium settings. Here is another showing playable frame rates, but with gamer settings and not enthusiast. If he wants/demands maxed out, these cards won't cut it. As I said, I agree with you. Cut the details down a bit and save the $$$. The game is gorgeous either way, and as a FPS I doubt you'd notice the little things anyways...

Its up to the OP. I would grab the GTX275. Gamer with no AA at 19x10 would still look pretty good. (I tend to avoid OCing so thats why I wouldn't get the GTX260.)

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Reply to 4745454b

Ok- think that I can run Crisis at 710 vcore 1455 shader and 1200 memory and still have decent FPS? With my setup????

thanks in advance :D

This is the last piece to the puzzle- It's been a long wait..... (4 months in the making ) :heink:

EVGA 780I
E8400 OC to 3.6 lapped
980 PSU
V8 Coolmaster
Haf 932 Case
4 Gigs of GI Skill PI Black 940MHz 4-4-4-12 w/ 2.1v
Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
Seagate Sata 500 GB
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Reply to armani2468

armani2468 wrote :

Ok- think that I can run Crisis at 710 vcore 1455 shader and 1200 memory and still have decent FPS? With my setup????

thanks in advance :D

This is the last piece to the puzzle- It's been a long wait..... (4 months in the making ) :heink:

EVGA 780I
E8400 OC to 3.6 lapped
980 PSU
V8 Coolmaster
Haf 932 Case
4 Gigs of GI Skill PI Black 940MHz 4-4-4-12 w/ 2.1v
Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
Seagate Sata 500 GB
NZXT SEN-001LX Sentry LX Aluminum dual bay fan controller



yes, the overclock may be possible, but it's a bit high...

you'll still do fine with a 680/1445 and 1202 memory...

Reply to ChronoBodi

NOTE: GTX 295 is SLI in a box. So think of it as 2 $250 dollar cards in one. Unlike other cards.

Reply to dragonfang18

You make a Valid point- any other input on this

Pulling the Trigger next week on the 275 GTX

Pretty impressive reviews thus far

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130475

Reply to armani2468

If its not too late, think again about mobo. Get at least 780i FTW or a 750i FTW. Much more stable from reviews I read. I am also getting EVGA 750i FTW this week ;)

Reply to azzinoth

gtx 295 have problems with their internal SLI. sometimes it just hang and your favorite BSOD will appear. (personal experience). get 275.. best bang for the buck.

Reply to mansalim
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I say just hold off making your uber rig till the new line of Nvidia cards come out!

Reply to dingumf

Dingmuf When are they coming out? I got a shipment of 2 295's coming to me on May 26.

The computer I am gonna upgrade has a GTS 250, currently im using 2 7900 Geforce go's


Message edited by dragonfang18 on 05-11-2009 at 01:40:01 AM
Reply to dragonfang18

O/C HD 4770 and Trifire along with a 4Ghz I7 will EASILY net 30K in 3dmark and only run you 300 dollars


Message edited by PsychoSaysDie on 05-11-2009 at 01:52:40 AM
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Reply to PsychoSaysDie

thanks for all the comments agian, If the first directx 11 cards come out later this year then ill probly hold off till those do, what do you think the prices will be?

Reply to sargentchimera

You know what, I think I'll wait for my 295's... Then when those 300 series graphics card get to 39X then I will probably switch...

Reply to dragonfang18

Nvidia can eat it, Ati owns

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@soldier37 shouldn't your avatar say Phenom II rather than Phenom?

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Reply to rags_20

rags_20 wrote :

@soldier37 shouldn't your avatar say Phenom II rather than Phenom?


Size limitations maybe....

 

Soldier why must you soil my day with that damn fine rig...and your amd 64 sticker is showing *blushes*

 

And i see something nasty....no highs no lows?, it must be bose!

 

Oh and i just found a pic to rival yours...muauhauhauh

 

The 9800GTX+ advanced light weight cooling manifold...cutting edge stuff here its even made out of the latest forever-flex material...so it flexes forever.....

 

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/RSSRM/0510091913-00.jpg


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