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dinho75   04-30-2009 at 06:59:51 PM

Just bought and installed a Visiontek 3850. After playing witcher enhanced edition for around 5 min I get a BSoD. I am also having problems with Oblivion. I am running 32 bit XP SP3, have the latest catalyst drivers, and dx 9.0c. My PSU is pretty decent-- a 500 watt Xclio. I was thinking of maybe trying an older catalyst driver or rolling back to XP SP2. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!

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dinho75   04-30-2009 at 09:29:08 PM
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It seems that taking out those two extra 1gig ram sticks that I just put in solved the problem

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contiki   04-30-2009 at 09:39:02 PM
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did it say it your bsod was caused by an ati2dvag.dll infinite loop? (or something like that)

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dinho75   04-30-2009 at 10:53:10 PM
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Not sure. However, I also disabled ATI catalyst controller in addition to taking out my two new sticks of RAM. My next step will be to try playing with ATI cc enabled and see what happens

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gamerk316   04-30-2009 at 11:05:04 PM
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Memtest the new RAM, and increase the RAM voltage to at least 1.8 (if not 2.1) Volts

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dinho75   04-30-2009 at 11:22:21 PM
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gamerk316 wrote :

Memtest the new RAM, and increase the RAM voltage to at least 1.8 (if not 2.1) Volts



I tried to Memtest the RAM and about 10 minutes into it, my computer rebooted. Is there an easy way to increase voltage on the RAM? I've never done it before. Thanks!

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dinho75   04-30-2009 at 11:42:25 PM
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gamerk316 wrote :

Memtest the new RAM, and increase the RAM voltage to at least 1.8 (if not 2.1) Volts



Forgive me for being such a noob. I figured out how to change the voltage through the bios. The voltage was already at 1.95. Do you really think that taking it to 2.1 can make a difference?

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megamanx00   04-30-2009 at 11:50:38 PM
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Depends on your board. it should have DRAM settings or something in the BIOS. You may have to manually set the timings and the voltage. If you have no idea what those are suppose to be they should be on the container they came in, if you bought them on new egg they should be in the specification tab, and failing all that you'll have to open your system and take out the RAM to see the product sticker that should state the RAM and timings. If you want us to help you then you should list your exact specs.

------------------------------ Playing X-Men Origins: Wolverine Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @3.24 Brisbane | GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-DS4 | 4GB Mushkin DDR2 1066 | Plextor 760A| 2x 3850 512M CF| WD 1TB Black| Fortron Blue Storm II 500W | APEVIA X-Dreamer Black | Win XP Pro & Vista Buisness 32bit
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dinho75   05-01-2009 at 12:29:27 AM
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Here are my exact specs:

Windows xp 32 bit SP3

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800 2.0 ghz

BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 AM2

4 GB Patriot 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

XCLIO GOODPOWER 500W

VisionTek Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1200JS 120GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s


Neither the product sticker nor the newegg page state the timings. I even looked on patriot's website and couldn't find it there either. This leads me to wonder: Does having 4gb of RAM will have a significant impact on game performance over 2gb?

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megamanx00   05-01-2009 at 05:44:20 AM
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Looking at New egg there are only so many pairs of DDR2 Patriot memory (4x2GB)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rchInDesc=

You either have 4-4-4-12 at 2.2v or 5-5-5-12 at 2.0v. The only one that isn't directly listed is the one that comes with the USB stick and the one without the heat spreader. Since you probably have the one without the heatspreader you should not that it runs at 1.9v, so if that's the RAM then just leave the timings on auto or SPD, and set the voltage to 1.9. The default voltage for DDR2 is 1.8v so if that RAM needs 1.9 to run at the timings it's coded at, then it won't be very stable at all unless you raise the voltage.

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dinho75   05-01-2009 at 06:47:38 PM
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megamanx00 wrote :

Looking at New egg there are only so many pairs of DDR2 Patriot memory (4x2GB)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rchInDesc=

You either have 4-4-4-12 at 2.2v or 5-5-5-12 at 2.0v. The only one that isn't directly listed is the one that comes with the USB stick and the one without the heat spreader. Since you probably have the one without the heatspreader you should not that it runs at 1.9v, so if that's the RAM then just leave the timings on auto or SPD, and set the voltage to 1.9. The default voltage for DDR2 is 1.8v so if that RAM needs 1.9 to run at the timings it's coded at, then it won't be very stable at all unless you raise the voltage.



This is the RAM I got:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820220088

I couldn't find info on timings anywhere. The lowest voltage setting for my mobo is 1.95. After taking out the two new sticks, things seemed to go well. At least now my game doesn't crash to bsod. Now however, I am getting a blue screen of death when I try to put my pc in standby mode. This leads me to suspect that it isn't the memory at all, but something going on with the gpu and drivers, although I am puzzled as to why removing the ram alleviated the crashing to a bsod after 5 min of playing witcher ee. Do you think that using an older version of catalyst or rolling back to xp sp2 will help? Thanks!

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dinho75   05-01-2009 at 10:26:59 PM
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Rolled back to older drivers included with card. Problem solved

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