New gaming rig

[bhavin31]

hi guys
i need some help with a new gaming rig
i have a £270 budget that i cant go over to build my gaming rig with.
i was thinking i could us a E5200 and Xfx hd 4850 xxx with pc2-8500 and Asus P5KPL-AM
i will mostly be playing age of empires 3, empire total war, call of duty 4 and 5 , and mostly RTS games
would this system be effecint for what i want to do. (could any one recomend a better setup)

 

[bhavin31]

forgot to mention
i also have a samsung tv that i will be using.
it's 19 inch and 1400 by 900
would i be able to play crysis on this with decent fps.

 

[xthekidx]

That is a tight budget...Do you own anything already that you can reuse? Or do you need everything? is the £270 just for the cpu, gpu, ram, and mobo?

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigabyte-GA-G31M-ES2L-iG31-Express-S775-PCI-E-(x16)-DDR2-1066(OC)-800-MHz-SATA-II-Micro-ATX
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149639
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148715
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-038-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-093-AN

That's 225, not including an OS or GPU...I think you are going to have a rough time with this build if you are starting from scratch.

 

[aevm]

The HD 4850 can deliver close to 38 fps in Crysis at 1400x900, I'm guessing. That's based on the results in this review:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13
(they got 37 fps at 1280x1024 and 30 fps at 1680x1050)

The E5200 will disappoint you at stock, but will do all right if you buy an aftermarket cooler and overclock it.

Make sure you have a 450W PSU or larger.

 

[boudy]

If you have a budget, then AMD is the way to go.

I would also suggest getting a slightly worse edition of 4850, and getting a slightly better CPU.
Here is my suggestion:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103300

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500017

VIDEO CARD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770

That should play what games you mentioned fairly well.
1400x900 resolution shouldn't be a problem, even if you decide to go with what you suggested in the first place.

 

[xthekidx]

If you have a budget, then AMD is the way to go.

I would also suggest getting a slightly worse edition of 4850, and getting a slightly better CPU.
Here is my suggestion:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103300

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500017

VIDEO CARD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770

That should play what games you mentioned fairly well.
1400x900 resolution shouldn't be a problem, even if you decide to go with what you suggested in the first place.

I guess you missed the £270 budget part...newegg doesn't work for him.

 

[Helloworld_98]

best bet to fit into that budget would be a 4750 maybe even a 4770 since the 4750 is as powerful as the 4830 but a bit cheaper and the 4770 is as powerful as a 4850 but as cheap as the 4830.

 

[aevm]

Link please? I want to see this 4770.... It sounds perfect for a build I need to do soon.

 

[bhavin31]

hey guys thanks for your responses,
my budget is only for cpu gpu mobo and ram
my build date is secound week in june.
if ur are woundering about my psu its a 500w antec
and i will be able to upgrade my system again in febuary cuz of my birthday and christmas.
can you only refer to uk websites, thank you
another opiton would be (from ebuyer)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz Socket 775 1333FSB 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor (148933) £133.99
Asus P5KPL-AM
Corsair 4GB Kit (2x2GB) (6400)
Sapphire HD 4670 512MB GDDR3 VGA DVI HDMI HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card (158995) £62.10

come to around £270 ish
"helloworld" comment about the Hd 4750 and 4770 i dont think those card exist yet.
i am really tempted to go quad just to futerproof system.

 

[boudy]

I guess you missed the £270 budget part...newegg doesn't work for him.

XD I guess I did.

Link please? I want to see this 4770.... It sounds perfect for a build I need to do soon

It isnt out yet. It should be out near the beginning of May.
He was just talking about the rumors of the card, those arent factual statements....yet, anyways.

 

[xthekidx]

4770: http://en.expreview.com/2009/03/31/amd-radeon-hd-4770-specs-unveiled.html
Gotta wait til May 4th

 

[aevm]

Nice, 40nm I thought that was still months away...

 

[boudy]

Alright well here is my suggestion (its 273.04 with "Super Saver" shipping)

Video Card: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159719

MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145300

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159071

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146049

 

[boudy]

Nice, 40nm I thought that was still months away...

For Nvidia, maybe.
ATI is also rumored to be coming out with 40nm DirectX11 cards in Q4 this year.

 

[bhavin31]

Alright well here is my suggestion (its 273.04 with "Super Saver" shipping)

Video Card: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159719

MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145300

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159071

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146049

im not much of a Amd guy cus of how amd perform in benchmarks

 

[xthekidx]

im not much of a Amd guy cus of how amd perform in benchmarks

Amd does fine in benchmarks at their price segments, they are more often than not better than intel.

 

[boudy]

im not much of a Amd guy cus of how amd perform in benchmarks

AMD tends to give you more performance for the price. That's why when you are on a low budget, AMD is usually the better choice.

 

[aevm]

+1

Also, when you read benchmarks, try to compare CPUs that cost the same.

For example a $190 Intel E8500 beats a $72 AMD Kuma, sure, but the performance per $ is actually way better with the Kuma.

 

[bhavin31]

Asus P5KPL-AM iG31 Socket 775 onboard VGA 8 channel audio mATX Motherboard £39.99
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz Socket 775 1333FSB 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor £133.99
OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Reaper Memory HPC Edition Dual Channel £50.83
Arctic Power 500W PSU With PCI-E 2x SATA, 20+4 ATX12V 8pin +12V Connectors - Retail Boxed £28.98
Plexus DVI-D Dual Link Flat Panel Replacement Cable (Black) 2m £3.85
Sapphire HD 4650 512MB with 1GB HyperMemory GDDR3 VGA DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card £46.99
all from ebuyer come to £304.63 with free P&P
im thinking in febuary 2010 i can upgrade the gpu but do i need a more powerful PSU

 

[bhavin31]

sorry for doble post
Arctic Power 500W PSU With PCI-E 2x SATA, 20+4 ATX12V 8pin +12V Connectors - Retail Boxed £28.98
would this psu handle the q8200 and a HD 4850, 4870, 4870 x2 , 4890

 

[xthekidx]

I wouldn't count on it.

 

[bhavin31]

http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd4800/requirements.html
the HD 4850 needs atleast a 450w psu
the 4870 needs a 500w or more
so think i should be okay and if they move all gpu to 45nm technolgy they will require less power

 

[xthekidx]

I wouldn't just pick any PSU unless I knew something about how reputable it was...I have never heard anything about Arctic Power PSUs, which isn't a good thing. Most no-name PSU's are bad and will take your system out.

 

[bhavin31]

check out the review people seem to be happy with it and has no rating below 3

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124922

 

[xthekidx]

check out the review people seem to be happy with it and has no rating below 3

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124922

You can't just go by user reviews, the casual user doesn't know what is actually going on with power regulation ect. Read a review from www.jonnyguru.com and you will see what I mean. You should really do some extensive power regualtion and an indepth look as to how well the PSU is put together before you buy it.