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10tacle   05-01-2009 at 05:21:18 AM

Three weeks ago I purchased an ASUS HD 4870 Dark Knight (512MB TOP overclock variant) for $165 from NewEgg, on sale from the original $190 (US). Now I want to purchase a second one for CF, but noticed that that same card has jumped to $260! In fact, looking around, just about every HD 4870 card has gone up. This is a brand new build and had I known that, I'd have bought two cards at that time.

 

I have not read about any jump in price of this magnitude. If anything, I thought the Nvidia/ATI wars were just starting up again. Can someone out there 'splain to me what is going on out there? Thanks! I can't seem to find any info elsewhere.

 

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BlueScreenDeath   05-01-2009 at 05:34:55 AM
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Newegg prices fluctuate a lot.

I bought 4GB of Corsair ram for $70 5 months ago, now it costs $50.

I bought a Zalman 750 PSU for $130, now it costs $180.

Basically something that is popular increases in price, something that is not decreases in price.

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10tacle   05-01-2009 at 06:24:00 AM
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I watched prices for 6 months on everything from the E8400 to the PC8500 RAM to the PS to the 4870 video card, and they all gradually went down over that period. And it's the same deal on ZipZoomFly and Amazon, so it's not just NewEgg. Sure, prices may go up or down $25 or so, but $100 UP on a graphics card? That's insane. Finally I did something right! Looks like that CrossFire will have to wait. Again. Or get replaced with the new GT300 from Nvidia.


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bonanzaguy   05-01-2009 at 09:03:23 AM
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Are you sure you're not looking at the new 4890's?

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RazberyBandit   05-01-2009 at 10:00:03 AM
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He's not: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121288

Crazy how that card jumped that high... Many of the 512 cards are as expensive, or more expensive than some of the 1GB cards. Has me thinking, WTF too!

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randomizer   05-01-2009 at 11:09:57 AM
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I think it's because the 1GB cards dropped and the 512MB cards didn't. Here the 512MB cards didn't cahnge but the 1GB cards dropped $100+ over 2 months.

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bonanzaguy   05-01-2009 at 03:06:13 PM
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Maybe they were trying to clear out stock before the 4890's came in.

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10tacle   05-01-2009 at 04:27:35 PM
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Well if that's their way of clearing stock of 4870s for the 4890s, it's @ss backwards! New card buyers may as well move up to the 4890 for just another $10!

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &name=ASUS

 

And just to the right of this webpage is Tom's article on 4870 price dropping back in March:

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/A [...] ,7141.html

 



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Euphoria_MK   05-01-2009 at 05:02:40 PM
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I noticed that last month too, prices went up and then two weeks after that they lowered the prices by $50 - $60, so just be patient.
I think prices go up as their supply lowers, but once they get their new supply from the manufacturers, prices will go down again.

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PsychoSaysDie   05-01-2009 at 06:13:19 PM
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4770 in Xfire is the way to go. Kicking the 4890's ass in everything

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BlueScreenDeath   05-01-2009 at 06:25:27 PM
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PsychoSaysDie wrote :

4770 in Xfire is the way to go. Kicking the 4890's ass in everything



Well, 2x4850s for $240 will beat 2x4770s. And 2x4870s will beat that.

Or if you have money to blow, 2x4890s pwns all.

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PsychoSaysDie   05-01-2009 at 06:26:37 PM
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BlueScreenDeath wrote :

Well, 2x4850s for $240 will beat 2x4770s. And 2x4870s will beat that.

Or if you have money to blow, 2x4890s pwns all.




I'd be interested to see some numbers of 4850's in Xfire

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BlueScreenDeath   05-01-2009 at 06:37:41 PM
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PsychoSaysDie wrote :

I'd be interested to see some numbers of 4850's in Xfire



2x4850 ~ 2x9800GTX/GTX+/GTX250 and performs better than a GTX285.

The 4770 to is almost on tier with the 4850.

There's only a $15-$20 difference between the two, and that is reflected in the 5%-10% performance difference.

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Helloworld_98   05-01-2009 at 06:58:10 PM
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BlueScreenDeath wrote :

2x4850 ~ 2x9800GTX/GTX+/GTX250 and performs better than a GTX285.

 

The 4770 to is almost on tier with the 4850.

 

There's only a $15-$20 difference between the two, and that is reflected in the 5%-10% performance difference.

 

Not from what I've seen, the 4850 in CF is equal to a GTX 280, the 4830 in CF is equal to a GTX 285 and the 4770's in CF are above the 285 because 640 cores x2 scale better than 800 x2.

 

edit: just looked at UK prices and the cheapest 4870 1GB is £133 ex VAT, usually the cheapest is about £145 so prices have gone down here.

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jennyh   05-01-2009 at 07:15:00 PM
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Both crossfired are faster than a gtx285, it's just a case of by how much. It could be between 5-10% in favour of the 4770's and I reckon it must be close to that.

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BlueScreenDeath   05-01-2009 at 07:24:00 PM
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Helloworld_98 wrote :

Not from what I've seen, the 4850 in CF is equal to a GTX 280, the 4830 in CF is equal to a GTX 285 and the 4770's in CF are above the 285 because 640 cores x2 scale better than 800 x2.

edit: just looked at UK prices and the cheapest 4870 1GB is £133 ex VAT, usually the cheapest is about £145 so prices have gone down here.



Then you've seen some bad bench marks. A 4850 is a good deal better than a 4830, so logically 2 4850s easily beats out 2 4830s.

The ones I've seen shows 2x4830 better equal to a gtx285 and slightly better than a gtx280, while 2x4850 superior to a gtx285


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rags_20   05-01-2009 at 07:39:21 PM
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The cheapest 4870 is around $160 and the others are way higher. 3 4870s will cost $480. VisionTek and HIS have their 4870x2s at $500. The others are lower, but I guess their prices are not updated yet.

I'd say they did it to increase 4770 sales (4770 CF)

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Euphoria_MK   05-01-2009 at 07:46:17 PM
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+^ It might be. They did that right at the release of the HD4890 card and two weeks later they lowered the price back to normal.

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