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April 11, 2009 5:12:30 PM

I currently have an old 4200+ x2 setup that I want to upgrade.

The case is fine, the ps is 800watt so it's fine, the sound card is fine...

All peripherals fine fine for now.

Just need a good low priced mobo/ram/cpu combo.

I was looking at the 7400, with a mobo that could take an upgrade or two and decent ram.

I may or may not overclock.

Suggestions?

Budget ~$325

TY!
April 11, 2009 7:12:04 PM

Good man. TY
April 11, 2009 11:06:57 PM

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do you want a quad, dual, either? Do you want to SLI/xfire?

Here is a great basic MB that will OC very well and take any Core 2 CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here is a great combo on a Very good MB that will allow xfire with a fast Dual core, after the rebate and with that g skill ram it should be under budget:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

April 14, 2009 1:33:49 AM

Wouldn't I want faster ram to go with that board, or most of the boards out there? Help me understand, haven't 'shopped' components for a few years
April 14, 2009 2:52:56 AM

There isn't any point in getting faster ram than DDR2-800, the memory controller on the LGA 775 platform can't really handle anything faster. DDR2-800 with the lowest timings and low voltage is where its at for Core 2's.
April 14, 2009 2:59:50 AM

sincraft said:
Wouldn't I want faster ram to go with that board, or most of the boards out there? Help me understand, haven't 'shopped' components for a few years


That set up kidx posted is the same I would have. That ram in his post will go as far as you dare take that cpu without cooking it. It's a good set up.
April 14, 2009 9:38:04 PM

Would this mobo be better?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has the p45 northbridge vs the p43 listed above.

I heard good things of the p45...suggestions? Is this compat with 800 mhz mem? Doesn't show it on product specs

I have a coworker that thinks I should be spending min $200 on a mobo or I'll end up with trash.

I don't really plan on SLI'n my board but who knows, if my 8800gts (g92) comes down I'll grab another and do it if the mobo was cheap enough.

Not a big fan of Nvidia's chipsets, they rubbed me wrong with my current a8n asus board. Always had probs with it.
April 14, 2009 9:53:22 PM

sincraft said:
Would this mobo be better?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has the p45 northbridge vs the p43 listed above.

I heard good things of the p45...suggestions? Is this compat with 800 mhz mem? Doesn't show it on product specs

I have a coworker that thinks I should be spending min $200 on a mobo or I'll end up with trash.

I don't really plan on SLI'n my board but who knows, if my 8800gts (g92) comes down I'll grab another and do it if the mobo was cheap enough.

Not a big fan of Nvidia's chipsets, they rubbed me wrong with my current a8n asus board. Always had probs with it.


The P45 boards are great if you have a cpu of 1333 fsb or higher and you wan't to over clock. The E7400 has a fsb of 1066, and the general OC on that cpu is (10.5 x 333) @ 1333 fsb. That gigabyte P43 handles this over clock just fine.

And yes it is wise to stay away from Nvidia boards.
a b à CPUs
April 14, 2009 11:13:08 PM

xthekidx's suggestion is great. You could also pick up a nice AMD system while staying under budget. The extra core will come in handy if you do any video editing or use any other software that is optimized to run on more than 2 cores.

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $134.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99

Total - $304.97
April 14, 2009 11:36:33 PM

sincraft said:
Would this mobo be better?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has the p45 northbridge vs the p43 listed above.

I heard good things of the p45...suggestions? Is this compat with 800 mhz mem? Doesn't show it on product specs

I have a coworker that thinks I should be spending min $200 on a mobo or I'll end up with trash.

I don't really plan on SLI'n my board but who knows, if my 8800gts (g92) comes down I'll grab another and do it if the mobo was cheap enough.

Not a big fan of Nvidia's chipsets, they rubbed me wrong with my current a8n asus board. Always had probs with it.


I wouldn't listen to your co worker after reading that post. I don't know your screen resolution, what games you play, how often you change up on your gaming rigs/ vid cards etc....but if you want to stay within your intended budget take a look at this down below. This Sunbeam HS is a decent one, and it comes with a great thermal compound (TX-2) which saves you a few dollars right there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <=== more pics, specs, and customer reviews of the mobo used in this build.

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-43-UD3L 79.99 after rebate Free Ground Shipping
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L Core 2 Quad/ Intel P43/ DDR2/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=E7400 $106.75
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz 1066MHz 3M LGA775 CPU, OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $39.99 ($29.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $40.99
G.SKILL HK 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

Total: $227.73 *not including shipping | $217.73 w/rebates

Now this is what I would do. Take that cpu move up your fsb (10.5 x 333) and run it at 3.5GHz @ 1333 fsb.

Now take the money you saved and put it towards a new vid card. Right now the gtx 260's are a bargain. These ones down below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

or even this card down below is a step up from what you have now. And it's on the cheap. :) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.99 Free Shipping*
XFX GS250XYDFC GeForce GTS 250 512MB Core Edition 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Free Call of Duty: World at War w/ purchase, limited offer

Total: $347.72 w/gts 250

Ok, now that's a decent build that includes a new vid card and a cpu that won't come close to bottlenecking it. It's all about staying cheap seeing how this technology changes all the time.
April 14, 2009 11:46:27 PM

Wow guys some great info here. Great food for thought too.

I just received a e8400 wolfsdale with 6mb cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Friend is moving up, never overclocked. Got it dirt cheap (FREE!...ok well not really, I pushed about 10k biz his way)

I'm probably gonna hold off on the video card for a bit. I think the one I have is pretty good, still gets pretty good scores.
Trust me if I notice anything limiting me in a game, I'm changing out. I'm picky.

FYI I do run at a higher res 1920x1200.


Thanks again guys, much appreciated. Hopefully I won't have anymore questions to bug you all with! :) 
April 15, 2009 12:38:18 AM

Free is always a good price, on a great processor too. At 19x12 res you will probably want a good GPU if you like to play at full settings in modern games. If you plan on playing crysis you should be aiming at a 4850x2 (or 2x 4850's in xfire) at least.
April 15, 2009 12:40:12 AM

sorry I'm back :) 

Now that this chip has a faster FSB @ 1333, should I still be thinking of these types of mobos/ram combos?

Thanks.

April 15, 2009 12:51:33 AM

xthekidx said:
Free is always a good price, on a great processor too. At 19x12 res you will probably want a good GPU if you like to play at full settings in modern games. If you plan on playing crysis you should be aiming at a 4850x2 (or 2x 4850's in xfire) at least.



xfire is an ati thing isn't it? I'm an nvidia video guy. I was REALLY into GPU's and the such for awhile when I purchased this card. At the time, it was THE best card to get, down to the memory..circuitry...soldering methods etc for the $. Dunno if that all has changed in the last year or so though.
April 15, 2009 12:53:20 AM

xthekidx said:
I would aim for this MB with those extra funds free'd up, its one of the best overclocking MB made for LGA 775
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


lol we are IM'n.

Ok so what about mem, step it up too? or keep the same as someone else stated the socket can't can't more throughput anyway?

A friend of mine has a beefy xpensive Nvidia based chipset mobo, he couldn't use the 1066 memory, had to dumb it down with timings etc or something to 800. Don't want that..
April 15, 2009 12:58:13 AM

For Core 2, DDR2-800 all the way.

Xfire is an ATI thing. I suggested that MB for the option of adding a second GPU later if you wanted to. P45 does not support SLI, if you want SLI then you should get an x58 board...out of the question for $325. If you want to stick to Nvidia (I would go for ATI personally because you will get more for your money with them) then there is no point in getting a MB with 2 PCIEx16 slots. Go for this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
April 15, 2009 1:01:49 AM

sincraft said:
sorry I'm back :) 

Now that this chip has a faster FSB @ 1333, should I still be thinking of these types of mobos/ram combos?

Thanks.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 ($99.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate)
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
2 oz copper PCB + Easy Tune 6 for OC

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $40.99
G.SKILL HK 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $178.99
BFG Tech BFGEGTX260MC896OCE GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Total: $339.97 +not including shipping and rebates
April 15, 2009 1:05:18 AM

Thanks again guys! :)  You rock.
April 15, 2009 1:17:44 AM

Why_Me said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99 ($104.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate)
GIGABYTE GA-EP45C-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $40.99
G.SKILL HK 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $178.99
BFG Tech BFGEGTX260MC896OCE GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Total: $339.97

That MB is known to have a fair amount of issues, I would just stick to the DDR2 version, the one that I linked.
April 15, 2009 3:06:43 AM

easy tune 6? A software OC? Anyone use?

S
April 15, 2009 3:11:31 AM

OC'ing should be done in the BIOS.
April 16, 2009 1:32:38 AM

OK I'm pretty sure this is the last question :) 

This mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The last one (more expensive) shows compatibility with 800mhz ram, the latter does not.
The last one has the best rating.
The last has dual nics. :) 
The last has 2 pci 2.0 16x slots (which I will never utilize)


Is it worth $14 to get a board with better reviews, another nic and a written guarantee (for whatever it is worth) that its memory standard supports 800mhz ram?

Again I know I have this ram speed thing screwed up but you know...I'm stupid...

suggest?

Also that mem you guys posted,...the best for the $ or for a few bucks more...anything else you would suggest?
I'm pulling the trigger tonight or tom. morn.

Thanks!
April 16, 2009 1:35:15 AM

They are the same motherboard, except for the the second one having 1 more PCIEx16 slot, the first having 1 more PCI slot. Get the cheaper one if you won't use Xfire.
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