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April 13, 2009 11:50:41 AM

:hello: 

I am gonna build a new gaming PC and with the help of you guys I came up with the below config.

CPU - AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-UD4H
GPU - 2 x HD 4850 512MB
RAM - OCZ OCZ2RPR10664GK PC2-8500 DDR2 Memory (4GB)
HDD - 500GB Seagate HDD
PSU - Corsair CMPSU-650TX
Case - Antec Three Hundred
Monitor - Benq 22" T2200HD LCD
Optical Drive - 22x DVD burner
OS - Vista Home Premium 64-bit

Is this fine for my gaming needs for another 3-4 years?..Should I do some modifications here?..
Will the RAM suit my motherboard and CPU..And is the PSU sufficient for this rig..
Any suggestions guys?..

EDIT: I may not be OCing. If OCng, it may only be mild. (yeah right, I am a noob here :)  . I need to learn the basics of OCing before I start OCing)..

Thank u

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April 13, 2009 11:59:51 AM

The PSU is fine, Ram is fine, Case is fine if anything else exceeds your budget, if not, Definantly look at the RC-690.

This Particular Seagate HDD does and doesn't have problems, theres a Barracuda and theres just the seagate, the seagate IMO is the firmware problem but, could be the Barracuda. Anyways, for gaming, it's not a bad HDD, it will work but, theres always other options of faster reading and writing optional HDD's. As for instance, the WD Black 640gb/320gb.

Ram, 1066 for OC'ing would be for you to be doing a Heavy OC.

I have 1066 ram and for a computer not at its tip top, 1066 wouldnt be all the great and Dandy.

800mhz G.skills PI Black with a nice tight timing will do the job and a good OC but, dont really touch the ram for ocing that much.
April 13, 2009 12:47:21 PM

I too heard problems about the Seagate HDD..I almost forgot..Thank u for reminding me bro..I have now changed to WDC 500GB SATA. Its green series..Black series are bit out of budget..
Actually, I am not from the US. Black series for the WD HDD and GSkill RAM are not unavailable in my city..

And what about this RAM?..G-Skill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ 4GB Kit. 800Mhz. It has a timing of 5-5-5-15. Will it be suitable for my mild OCing?..

Thank u..
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April 13, 2009 1:01:16 PM

drop the 2 4850's for 2 4830's since 4830's are actually more powerful in cf than 4850's.

also saves you some cash to go am3 too.

and if you don't go am3, the 1066mhz ram won't be needed for oc'ing unless you do a pure HT 175% OC.
April 13, 2009 1:11:40 PM

Oh..I didnt know that fact about the 4830s..I forgot to mention that I already bought a 4850 512MB..It is the only part which I have now..That is the reason I decided to do a crossfire with another 4850 512MB..

AM3, is it really worth it going to AM3?.. I read that there is not much performance difference between DDR2 and DDR3..
Still DDR3 is expensive in my place here..

And for DDR2 mobo, is that 800Mhz GSkill RAM good?..
April 13, 2009 1:15:46 PM

you can still cf a 4830 with a 4850, dunno if it will give as good performance as two 4830's though. might be better to get another 4850 then.

am3 is worth it if you get 1600mhz or above ram, and ddr3 ram is so cheap these days(4x1gb of 2ghz ram for £100) and ddr2 is pretty much obselete now there's not much point in going back.
April 13, 2009 1:40:35 PM

Helloworld_98, really thank u bro..I appreciate your helping me out with the am3 suggestions..But I am afraid I have to stick with the am2+
Prices are still higer for DDR3 in my country. It will be some 6 months before they become dominating here..thanks a lot bro..

I guess I ll upgrade to am3 in future if need be..

And regarding the PSU, is it ok if I move to a Corsair CMPSU-550VX, since I might only be doing mild OC..
April 13, 2009 1:45:28 PM

it's more the gfx cards than the OC, I know that a silverpower 500w can only just take two 4830's with enough to spare an OC while being in the safe zone. It's also spec'd about the same as the corsair 550w but has better efficiency so they're close.

It's probably better to stick with the 650w to be safe.
April 13, 2009 1:51:17 PM

Ok then...power supply unchanged to Corsair CMPSU-650TX.
CPU, mobo, GPU unchanged...
What about the RAM?..G-Skill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ 4GB Kit. 800Mhz. It has a timing of 5-5-5-15. Will it be good for my rig?..
Or in general, will any 800Mhz RAM with 5-5-5-15 timing do good for my rig..

Thank u..
April 13, 2009 1:59:05 PM

try and get the lowest voltage ram with the same specs possible. it will help with oc's and save some energy.

edit: looks like your board can take 2.4v memory so most ddr2 memory should work.
April 13, 2009 2:40:36 PM

It will be good enough.

the wdc green is the slowest wd drive. The Seagate would be more useful than that. But, im not sure of which seagate 500gb you were looking at. There are 2 different kinds, a Seagate Barracuda and a Seagate.
April 13, 2009 3:17:19 PM

well, i was referring to the Seagate..not the Seagate Barracuda..wich one do you think might have problems?.
April 13, 2009 3:36:45 PM

Don't let them talk you out of DDR2 1066 RAM. It's true that Intel chips don't benefit from DDR2 1066 RAM, but AMD chips do. I'd stick with DDR2 1066 RAM.

I'd shy away from the Seagate drives until they get their quality control issues under control. If the black series is out of your price range, try to find the mainstream blue series. These are the model #'s for the blue drives: WD3200AAKS & WD6400AAKS.
April 13, 2009 3:41:38 PM

the WD Caviar Green series might help with lowering power usage though since it changes between 5400rpm and 7200rpm depending on what it's doing.
April 13, 2009 5:55:42 PM

most 1066mhz on a mid range rig would be ok but, mainly used for high oc'ing.
Thats why i chose the 800mhz instead.
April 13, 2009 6:16:43 PM

fullmetall said:
most 1066mhz on a mid range rig would be ok but, mainly used for high oc'ing.
Thats why i chose the 800mhz instead.

That logic only applies to Intel CPU's. AMD CPU's will take full advantage of DDR2 1066 RAM with no overclocking at all. That's one of the advantages of the integrated memory controller.
April 13, 2009 6:44:16 PM

or he could get 800mhz 1.8v, up the voltage 0.2v, but the ddr3 speed to 533mhz and he just saved a bit.
April 13, 2009 6:50:45 PM

Helloworld_98 said:
or he could get 800mhz 1.8v, up the voltage 0.2v, but the ddr3 speed to 533mhz and he just saved a bit.

Sure, he could do that and hope it works, or he could spend a couple extra dollars and buy RAM guaranteed to run at that speed.
April 13, 2009 7:22:53 PM

Helloworld_98 said:
or he could get 800mhz 1.8v, up the voltage 0.2v, but the ddr3 speed to 533mhz and he just saved a bit.

guys, sorry u got me little confused.. :??: 
sure i did understand I could get a 800Mhz DDR2 and up the voltage 0.2V then...that is option 1..

But what is that "DDR3 speed to 533mhz". Are you referring to the 1066Mhz RAM?..or the ddr3 one?..

Thank u...
April 13, 2009 7:30:36 PM

Hah, well for your choice of 1066mhz, your fine with it.
April 13, 2009 7:33:30 PM

taruncharles said:
guys, sorry u got me little confused.. :??: 
sure i did understand I could get a 800Mhz DDR2 and up the voltage 0.2V then...that is option 1..

But what is that "DDR3 speed to 533mhz". Are you referring to the 1066Mhz RAM?..or the ddr3 one?..

Thank u...

The "DDR3 speed to 533 MHz" was a typo by Helloworld_98. He meant DDR2 and was talking about overclocking the DDR2 800 RAM to DDR2 1066. I'd just buy DDR2 1066 RAM, though.
April 15, 2009 7:16:38 PM

Really thanx a lot for all ur responses guys..
I have decided to stay with the 1066mhz RAM.. :) 

One small modification guys..
Out of sudden budget restrictions :cry:  I am now forced to a position to leave out the second 4850..But I am sure that I will add that second card in a couple of months..3 months max..
So, till then will this PSU Corsair 650TX be good for my single 4850..Or is it a overkill for my rig guys?..

Thank u...
April 15, 2009 7:18:46 PM

It's fine, 650tx would be the max i would put on a 4850 on a single rail.
April 15, 2009 7:39:49 PM

Oh ok then..I ll stick with the 650TX

Regarding the RAM - OCZ2RPR10664GK DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500). It has some (only some) bad reviews stating that its stable at 800Mhz and not at 1066..But I guess, this can be easily corrected in the BIOS..Am I right here guys?..

So, should I stay with this RAM itself or go for some other...btw how about these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
April 15, 2009 10:06:27 PM

taruncharles said:
Oh ok then..I ll stick with the 650TX

Regarding the RAM - OCZ2RPR10664GK DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500). It has some (only some) bad reviews stating that its stable at 800Mhz and not at 1066..But I guess, this can be easily corrected in the BIOS..Am I right here guys?..

So, should I stay with this RAM itself or go for some other...btw how about these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Avoid those bottom two kits. You want CAS 5 RAM, not CAS 6 or CAS 7. The lower the numbers, the better (5-5-5-15 > 7-7-7-20).
April 22, 2009 12:09:58 PM

thanx a lot once again guys...

I have bought the CPU, GPU, PSU, monitor and keyboard-mouse.. :)  :) 

I am now waiting for the other parts..
I was wondering whether I should do a bios update for the motherboard - GA-MA790GP-UD4H to support my X3 720 cpu...

I tried googling. Some pages asks to update it, but the CPU support-list includes X3 720 among the supported models..Sometimes I get a little confused..thought u guys can help me here..
And if I were to update, should I update bios version F2H or F1...

GA-MA790GP-UD4H specifications
April 22, 2009 9:31:46 PM

It seems bios update is not required. that board is "AM3 CPU Ready".

This is the first time I am building a rig. Are there any tips or guidelines that you have while I assemble my rig..
Anything I should keep my mind on. Or anything that isnt mentioned in the manuals?..
Any suggestions would really help me out...
April 22, 2009 11:37:36 PM

dont get mad when struggling to get stuff on :) 

hah, if theres anything you get cautious of, go to youtube, and search the particular area of the tower your puting together then watch.
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