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April 13, 2009 12:46:34 PM

Hi , i would appreciate a lot if someone could give me a few pointers about the components I'm planing to buy.

CPU : Intel Core2 Duo E8500 3,16GHz, 775
Mainboard : DFI S775 ATX, P45-T2RS Turbo LP DK, DDR2, PCIe or
Gigabyte S775 EP35-DS4, DDR2, PCIe, SATA2
(Someday i think i will go CROSSFIRE)
PSU : LC 600W LC6600GP2 140mmFANv2.3(24pin)
GPU : SAPPHIRE PCI-E HD 4870 512MB GDDR5
Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 4870, 512MB, PCI-E (GV-R487-512H-B)
GAINWARD HD4870, GOLDEN SAMPLE, 512MB
POWERCOLOR ATI RADEON HD4870, 512MB DDR5, PCI-E, dual DVI

I have read tons of posts on different forums about the GPU i know it's the subject opened 100 times before :??: 
POWERCOLOR -> bad bios (FANS working strange) , it should be upgraded but you loose warranty, presumably BAD CHOICE
SAPPHIRE -> Low overclocking limits in the CCC , I dont care much about that , but some say it will broke down fairly soon , very bad warranty support , so they say
GIGABYTE -> People don't mention it a lot , someone said good motherboard but bad graphic cards
GAINWARD -> People don't mention it a lot

No other brands are available where i live , and ASUS is almost 60 € more expensive.

Could some one give me pointers about this components , :pt1cable: 

Thanks in advance

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April 13, 2009 2:38:55 PM

GIGABYTE has never let me down with any hardware. If the price is right go gigabyte!

What is this PC going to be used for?
Your monitors dimensions?
Will you overclock?
April 13, 2009 2:45:08 PM

Yea, DFI. Which other P45 motherboards do you have in your area and PSU.

Which ram are you looking at.

Intel Dual core E8500 is a really nice chip, I love it even though Intel stopped making LGA 775 boards so, in the future upgrade, everything will need to be replaced with a LGA 1366 socket or something else if anything comes out new.
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April 13, 2009 2:46:10 PM

thanks for the answer , monitor is 22" Samsung , I'm buying pc because the last one died , I'm not a hardcore gamer but still now and than I play a game or two :D  . Maybe I will OC a little bit just for fun , but nothing serious .
I was looking at 2x - OCZ RAM DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHZ, XTC cooler, 2GB

For the motherboards there is ASUS I45P P5Q PRO in the same price class, and Gigabyte S775 EP45-DS3R, PCIe, DDR2 , DFI S775 ATX, P45-T2RS BI, DDR2, PCIe if you got any other suggestion for mainboard let me know please , and i will check if it's available in my area. :) 

The most annoying choice is the graphic card :na: 
April 13, 2009 3:43:08 PM

Don't get the P35 chipset motherboard in your original post. I would go with either the Asus P5Q Pro or Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R. The P45 chipset does crossfire a LOT better than P35.
April 13, 2009 4:20:01 PM

+1

I'd pick the video card between Gigabyte and Sapphire.

I don't like that PSU much even for one HD 4870 card, to be honest. For two of them it's underpowered. It claims 600W, but all it has is a rail with 17A and one with 19A, according to the specs I found on the Web. Combined they probably deliver less than 36A too. Compare that with a Corsair 650TX which claims 650W and delivers 52A.
April 13, 2009 5:52:24 PM

Asus P5Q pro +1.

ocz ram is fine as long as the timings are at 5-5-5-15 or lower and is 2x2gb = 4gb.

Graphics card: Sapphire 1gb 4870 +1
April 13, 2009 8:06:18 PM

+1 P5Q Pro or Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P if it is available around you.

I would say for the GPU's I would pick in this order, assuming similar prices: 1. Saphire, 2. Gigabyte, 3. Powercolor, 4. Gainward
April 14, 2009 6:09:05 AM

Hi and thanks for the replies ,

This is what I have orderd :

CPU : Intel Core2 Duo E8500 3,16GHz, 775
Mainboard : P5Q Pro
PSU : LC 600W LC6600GP2 140mmFANv2.3(24pin) (will have to do until I go crossfire)
GPU : SAPPHIRE PCI-E HD 4870 1GB GDDR5
Memory : Kingston HyperX DDR2 2GB KHX6400D2/2G 5-5-5-15

And a BIG fan for my case :D 

April 14, 2009 8:20:37 AM

I would not want to run a 4870 on that PSU...be careful with that.
April 14, 2009 10:42:24 AM

uff ... :(  , I know it's kinda on the limit , but what i have read "From the speculated 150-160W TDP we can assume that the 4870s will draw ~13A" do you really think it will do problem , I hope not. Can it do any damage to components or will only the PSU be overstressed (and die eventualy) I'm over my budget already , so the difference in price for other PSU is X2
April 14, 2009 10:44:27 AM

uff ... :(  , I know it's kinda on the limit , but what i have read "From the speculated 150-160W TDP we can assume that the 4870s will draw ~13A" do you really think it will do problem , I hope not. Can it do any damage to components or will only the PSU be overstressed (and die eventualy) I'm over my budget already , so the difference in price for other PSU is X2
April 14, 2009 10:58:35 AM

It will probably be alright, but like we have said the PSU is the backbone of the system, if it fails and starts sending energy spikes because its over-stressed then you are likely to fry some other components in your system. Hopefully if it fails, it will only take itself out, but I wouldn't trust it :/  You should buy a replacement PSU ASAP.
April 14, 2009 12:03:40 PM

Ok the LC is gone :pt1cable:  , what now will ATX 650W Corsair TX handle it ? Will Corsair handle 2x4870 one day when i will get one more gpu ? This will get me really over my budget :??: 
April 14, 2009 1:12:36 PM

That Corsair 650W can handle HD 4870 Crossfire all right, as far as power is concerned. It only has two PCI-E connectors, and you need 4, but the Sapphire version comes with molex-PCI-E adapters so you'll be fine.


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