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July 18, 2009 3:13:39 PM

Anyone know if AMD will be releasing 95watt Phenom II's in the future that are 3Ghz+ ? Reason I ask is my motherboard only supports 95watt cpu's and in the future I want to be able to jump to a decent PII.
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July 18, 2009 6:52:08 PM

The tri cores are 95 watts, and can be overclocked. Amd is coming out with the 605e this fall. It's only 45 watts, but runs at a slower speed.
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July 18, 2009 9:29:16 PM

Yeah, I have found info on those. Not looking to go less than an X4 after working with a quad. I am hoping some lower TDP revisions come out for the existing PII's.
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July 19, 2009 12:41:35 AM

the athlon x4s should have very low tdps, but no L3 and ive heard romours of a95w version of the 945
July 19, 2009 1:06:44 AM

I keep hearing a new rev to be coming qtr 4 this year, should give better thermals
July 19, 2009 1:21:21 AM

Those lower TDP rated mobos dont oc as well. Id look for a combo deal when going to buy your cpu upgrade
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July 19, 2009 11:25:25 PM

Not interested in the new motherboard idea. Just got this setup a couple months ago. I am plenty happy with what I have now; just wanted to know for future references. I would rather wait for whats after socket AM3 if I was upgrading the motherboard, if possible
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July 20, 2009 12:32:16 AM

HDX945WFK4DGI 945's are 95w TDP I believe.
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July 20, 2009 1:39:53 AM

There would be a Phenom 925 2.8 GHz 95w version released this year.
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July 20, 2009 1:45:45 AM

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You might be waiting till 2011 then for after socket AM3...AMD will ride this socket for a while it seems compared to their last few.


AMD came out with Socket AM2 in 2006 and didn't replace it until earlier this year with AM3. AMD tends to only change sockets with their IMC-equipped chips when they change the type of memory, so I wouldn't expect to see a successor to AM3 until DDR4 RAM comes out or they make a major change to the CPU's I/O pathways that necessitates a new socket. DDR4 is probably going to come out in 2012, so I'd expect AM3 to be around a while if AMD doesn't make any huge changes to their CPUs' I/O. I don't know if they would do that, but if they did, it would probably come in 2011 with the introduction of the K11 "Bulldozer" CPUs. I do know that the upcoming DDR3-using Opteron sockets C32 and G34 will support both K10-based chips and K11/Bulldozer-based chips, but those brand-new sockets may very well have a pinout that will support those upcoming features. AM3 probably does not support much that's not in current CPUs since AM3 CPUs work in AM2 boards, so the pinout must be pretty much identical between AM2 and AM3. That doesn't leave much in the way of future expansion, unless a lot of those 938 to 940 pins are "no connect." I can't find an AM2/AM3 pinout, so I can't tell you.
July 20, 2009 5:15:49 AM

Do the really OC worse? I imagined they were cherry-picked models to run at lower voltages, and so would OC better.
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July 20, 2009 5:22:43 AM

The lower TDP CPUs should overclock better, yes.
July 20, 2009 5:50:33 AM

Not for suicide runs, there you want a leaky bastage
July 20, 2009 6:19:47 AM

CURRENTLY RELEASED 95watt QUAD PH II cpu's: 810, 910

also at 65w QUAD, low energy models: 900e, 905e


(also triples: 710, 720BE at 95w; and low energy 700e, 705e)


Coming Soon:
Ph II 925 and 945, at 95w tdp, are due to release soon - Q3 09.


RE oclox
- except for 720BE, these are not Black Edition parts - so the multiplier is locked; but other settings are still available for adjustments.

In the op's case, the 95 w mobo is a possible restriction since oclox would raise pow consumption and heat; this might effectively mean exceed the rated tdp.
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July 20, 2009 3:47:47 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
Not for suicide runs, there you want a leaky bastage


Which is why AMD made some one-off super-leaky Phenom II 42 TWKRs. Unfortunately, they're not for sale. AMD seems to be giving them to people at extreme-overclocking events.
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July 20, 2009 4:14:57 PM

sighQ2 said:
CURRENTLY RELEASED 95watt QUAD PH II cpu's: 810, 910

also at 65w QUAD, low energy models: 900e, 905e


(also triples: 710, 720BE at 95w; and low energy 700e, 705e)


Coming Soon:
Ph II 925 and 945, at 95w tdp, are due to release soon - Q3 09.


RE oclox
- except for 720BE, these are not Black Edition parts - so the multiplier is locked; but other settings are still available for adjustments.

In the op's case, the 95 w mobo is a possible restriction since oclox would raise pow consumption and heat; this might effectively mean exceed the rated tdp.

I am oc'ing right now though with a 95watt TDP. 2.3-->2.7ghz @ 1.39 volts.

Any chance those new 95watt PII's will be black editions? One thing I have learned is this mobo does not respond well to fsb adjusting.
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