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vsdagama   05-06-2009 at 08:30:37 PM

Hey,

 

last year I was planning to build my own gaming pc, but I ended up with a cheap (750 euro) prebuilt from a supermarket O.o.

 

Whatever,

 

With this new pc, I haven't been able to play good graphic games like COD4, GTA4, .... or any other games on a high resolution (This was the point of buying/building a new pc but whatever)

 

So I think it's the graphic card.

 

Now were talking about my graphic card, here's the question:
I've not found out yet if I have 1 or 2 graphic cards, because I get contradicting information about this.

 

When I look at my ATI driver program I can select a HD 3200 and a HD 3400 (2 cards?? O.o)
When I look at my system trough a program, it tells me the HD 3400 specs but the HD 3200 is empty (no specs)
When I look in everest (another program) I have 2 HD 3400's...

 

=>

 

How do I find out what is actually the truth??
Could it be I have 2, but only using 1 => causing the bad preformance?
Or even if I have both in Xfire, they still suk?

 

thanks!!!


Message edited by vsdagama on 05-06-2009 at 08:33:09 PM
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PsyKhiqZero   05-06-2009 at 09:01:39 PM
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look behind the computer. if all of your video ports are parallel then (should be 4 total) then there is a real good chance you have cross fire. if some of them are perpendicular then you have hybrid crossfire. it's a crossfire between onboard and dedicated GPU. If you only have 1-2 video outputs then you most likely only have onboard graphics.

best way to know is to crack that bad boy open.

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vsdagama   05-06-2009 at 09:20:36 PM
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I currently have no time/knowledge for that :p
How can I be certain what's going on in there, without looking??

 

(like looking into a present box without opening it O.o :p)

 

The thing that is confusing me is that I never knew there were 2 (or not), and now different sources give different results :S + Graphics are bad => one is not working?

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daedalus685   05-06-2009 at 09:23:53 PM
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Open up ATI Catalyst control panel. Click on hardware information. Paste the results and we will tell you what is up :)

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------------------------------ CPU: Q9550 at 3.6ghz (FSB 425mhz) | MB: P5E3 Premium | Ram: 4*2Gb Corsair DDR3 @1417mhz | GPU: 2 HD4890 1Gb (925core/1025mem) CF | PSU: OCZ ELiteXtreme 800W | Sound: Creative Titanium Fatal1ty Pro | 2*120gb OCZ Vertex SSD Raid0 and 2 500gb Raid0 HDDS
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rewindlabs   05-06-2009 at 09:35:50 PM
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vsdagama wrote :

I currently have no time/knowledge for that :p
How can I be certain what's going on in there, without looking??

(like looking into a present box without opening it O.o :p)

The thing that is confusing me is that I never knew there were 2 (or not), and now different sources give different results :S + Graphics are bad => one is not working?


Aha...no

You probably have some horrible gpu solution and your intergreated is also running...something like that...

Get a camera and snap pictures of the inside of the pc and back side etc...unless you think you want to run a diagnostic app..

------------------------------ http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/RSSRM/ay14s5-1.jpg
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Bronze Graphics badge coozie7   05-06-2009 at 09:40:28 PM
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Sounds like you have the 3200 as onboard with a HD34XX added to it, possibly in Hybrid Crossfire, either way you're going to need a graphics upgrade to play games.

And please tell us what you have, we're working in the dark here!

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vsdagama   05-06-2009 at 10:36:20 PM
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daedalus685 wrote :

Open up ATI Catalyst control panel. Click on hardware information. Paste the results and we will tell you what is up :)

 

Well I can't just copy.paste it but it says
Primary adapter: HD 3400
Linked adapter: HD 3200

 
daedalus685 wrote :

Open up ATI Catalyst control panel. Click on hardware information. Paste the results and we will tell you what is up :)

 
rewindlabs wrote :

Aha...no

 

You probably have some horrible gpu solution and your intergreated is also running...something like that...

 

Get a camera and snap pictures of the inside of the pc and back side etc...unless you think you want to run a diagnostic app..

 

Tell me what app to run and I'll post the results :p


Message edited by vsdagama on 05-06-2009 at 10:37:31 PM
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daship   05-06-2009 at 11:13:32 PM
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You have hybrid crossfire onboard and a card. Both together still suck. If you want to game you need a 48xx series and disable the hybrid crossfire. 3xxx series and 4xxx series dont crossfire together.

2x bad cards in xfire dont = 1 good card.


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zipzoomflyhigh   05-06-2009 at 11:32:32 PM
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Thats what you get from a supermarket I guess.....

------------------------------ P965/Q6700@3.2 8MB HD4850 OC Edition
4GB Corsair XMS 800
Vista64/Win7
Fatality 550w/Antec 300
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vsdagama   05-07-2009 at 11:27:22 AM
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Dam...
I knew it would be better to build on myself (around 1500$) instead of buying this stupid *** (750$)

But my dad thought I couldnt build it myself and preferred this O.o

I'll build one in july myself then :p

Or is there any cheap solution to improve this one a little? so I can play some more games?
all hardware is probably low quality and such I guess I'll have to restart from 0...


Thanks you guys!!

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Bronze Graphics badge coozie7   05-07-2009 at 11:41:44 AM
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Please tell us what it is!
One of the great strengths of the PC is its flexible nature but if you do not tell us what it is we cannot help.

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vsdagama   05-07-2009 at 11:57:42 AM
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coozie7 wrote :

Please tell us what it is!
One of the great strengths of the PC is its flexible nature but if you do not tell us what it is we cannot help.



You have hybrid crossfire onboard and a card. Both together still suck. => I have this?

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Bronze Graphics badge coozie7   05-07-2009 at 12:10:53 PM
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We have established that your system has Hybrid Crossfire which means it should have a PCI-E slot which is currently used for the 3400 but we still need to know:
which computer did you buy? What is its make and model?
Once you tell us that we can suggest a suitable upgrade to the HD3400.

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deuce271   05-07-2009 at 03:05:31 PM
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Get a 9700 Pro!

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vsdagama   05-07-2009 at 07:00:12 PM
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coozie7 wrote :

We have established that your system has Hybrid Crossfire which means it should have a PCI-E slot which is currently used for the 3400 but we still need to know:
which computer did you buy? What is its make and model?
Once you tell us that we can suggest a suitable upgrade to the HD3400.



ah, I see

Well, I have time now, and I am going to open the case :p

What do I look for?

The one I bought could be unknown to you guys, as far as I know the brand is known in Belgium and the Netherlands

Here is the type of computer I THINK I have :p
http://www.medion.de/ms/aldi/md8394/be_nl/flash.html

I am not sure, maybe some differences but it looks thesame, has thesame processor and memory amounts so I think it is this one.


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Bronze Graphics badge coozie7   05-07-2009 at 07:10:27 PM
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Now, as we say in England, we are cooking with gas!
Not a bad system it will certainly benefit from a new graphics card but, when you are in the case, look at the power supply, it should have a label on it telling you its outputs. We need to know: Total output in Watts and Amps on the +12v line or lines.

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vsdagama   05-07-2009 at 08:49:39 PM
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K, so I open the case, look at the PSU, look at the graphic cards, look at the mobo type?

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Bronze Graphics badge coozie7   05-07-2009 at 08:54:31 PM
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Yes. And look closely at the PSU. Tell us total Watts and how much is on the 12v output.
Also look at the video card. is it full size or small?
look at the pictures here and tell us which one your card looks like:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0HD%203450

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daedalus685   05-07-2009 at 08:54:59 PM
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The motherboard will support a new card based o nteh fact it already has a PCIx card in it. We need to know what kind of power you are playing with in order to tell you what graphics cards you are limited to. It is probalby rather weak so you may be limited to something like a 4670. It is best to be sure though.

There will be a sticker on the PSU with all of its information, that is all we really need.

------------------------------ CPU: Q9550 at 3.6ghz (FSB 425mhz) | MB: P5E3 Premium | Ram: 4*2Gb Corsair DDR3 @1417mhz | GPU: 2 HD4890 1Gb (925core/1025mem) CF | PSU: OCZ ELiteXtreme 800W | Sound: Creative Titanium Fatal1ty Pro | 2*120gb OCZ Vertex SSD Raid0 and 2 500gb Raid0 HDDS
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vsdagama   05-07-2009 at 10:56:23 PM
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K guys, thanks for this detailed info,
I have no time tonight, gotta work for school, tomorrow friday=going out-day so probably in the weekend I'll post result

Thanks!

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