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January 14, 2011 9:51:12 AM

So I couldn't find a thread on this and was wondering how my system compared..

Lightsmark 2008 is a quick and simple benchmark with only one option - resolution.

You can download it here: http://lightsmark.com/Lightsmark2008.2.0.msi

Here is my average FPS:



Please post your results :)  very interested in seeing how the GTX 570 and 580 compare to my SLI system.
a c 125 U Graphics card
a c 125 K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 11:55:45 AM

Couldn't top your 260's, which I found strange as I thought GTX260SLI = GTX295, and GTX295=HD5870, and HD5870 is 15-20% slower than GTX480 and GTX480 = GTX570, + I have roughly a 25% OC so my score should be a minimum of 40% better than yours providing OC % = Score increase %.

Anyways congrats on the monster score! :o 

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January 14, 2011 12:07:26 PM

Mwahahahaa. My 260's are the core 216 editions, and both have 20% overclock on the core, 19% on the shaders.. so no messing around.. and I've seen before that overclocked 260 SLI can top a 295 by a good bit. In saying this though, I am still pretty surprised your 570 couldn't top them!? Might be a limitation of the software?

I'll bench again later on to make sure my first score wasn't a fluke! :o 
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January 14, 2011 12:57:03 PM

Okay.. no fluke lol. Here's a score from a few minutes ago, along with CPU-Z and GPU-Z windows :) .

a c 125 U Graphics card
a c 125 K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 1:01:51 PM

Damn it!..... Oh I meen, Congrats! :) 

Might be able to top that score when I get a GPU BIOS that allows me to use more volts.
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a b K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 1:39:31 PM

Haha. Looking forward to seeing the volts mod melt your graphics card top my score lol ;) 

Keep me posted! Very interested.

Also.. anyone else with a 570 setup - please please run this benchmark.. now I'm even more intrigued lol.
a c 125 U Graphics card
a c 125 K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 1:56:34 PM

Shame there's no benchmarking sub-section on this forum : /

Will post on this thread again when I've upped the Vcore and hopefully got to 1Ghz on the Core.

If I still don't beat your score then you'll force me to by a second GTX570 haha!

More results please people!
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 3:47:28 PM

Tried it, my 930 @ 3.8 and oc'd GTX 460 at 1920x1200 res. scored higher than omg's system ( 920 @ 4.0 and GTX570 according to member config. )
Something's wrong there.

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a b K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 3:51:28 PM

*drool* if only I could get 1Ghz on mine! lol. Around 700 is my limit, anything after that and my graphics cards don't go to 2D / 3D profiles correctly and sometimes get artifacts in game :( .

If only *dreams* hehe.
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a b K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 3:52:42 PM

Maybe the benchmark just doesn't support the latest cards? It's a 2008 version to be fair..
a c 125 U Graphics card
a c 125 K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 3:54:02 PM

(Need to update member config....)

Anyway what the **** :(  Sad times. I'll check GPU activity with MSI AB, maybe its not kicking upto 3D mode or something.

EDIT: Usage is from 87-97& (usually above 95%) and max temp was 37C, so dunno whats up with that :( 
a b K Overclocking
January 14, 2011 8:32:02 PM

Here's mine:


I think it's "diabolically"" high:p 

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January 15, 2011 9:28:20 AM

It's a sign :o  haha.

I have noticed I'm the only one using SLI at the moment. Maybe a factor in why the scores are coming out how they are?
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January 15, 2011 11:55:31 AM

Here's the benchmark for my old machine.. now used as a 'facebook' machine when my friends are round lol. AMD X2 5600+ at 3.0GHz, 2x 8600GTS in SLI.

a b K Overclocking
January 15, 2011 5:56:19 PM

acer0169 said:
Here's the benchmark for my old machine.. now used as a 'facebook' machine when my friends are round lol. AMD X2 5600+ at 3.0GHz, 2x 8600GTS in SLI.

http://www.anyoldBollocks.co.uk/file/9608375971295099653.jpg


8600 sli has really bad scaling.The gtx 260s should score higher though.
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January 15, 2011 7:11:29 PM

8600 scales just fine. I can't remember exact FPS, but in most games it was at least 75% increase. I remember being so amazed at the performance increase when I got the second card.

And what do you think by 260's should score?
January 15, 2011 7:24:21 PM

Lightsmark2008 is still downloading.

I can't peel my eyes away from OMFGBBQ's wallpaper. who is that girl? :o 


HAHAHAHA! PWNED SUCKERS :D 
Single GTX 460 768MB

Though you know, this bench only tests lighting so my guess is, it's not a very reliable indicator of 'real world' GPU power.
January 15, 2011 7:52:29 PM

I benched again to be sure that wasn't a fluke... and this time it was OVER 700!!!!!1!!ELEVEN!!



There's something wrong with the bench. When I try this at a lower resolution (like 640x480) I actually get a lower score. It just didn't kick the GPU into high gear it seems. Probably what happened to OMGWTF's GTX 570. It doesn't seem like a good program to test high end cards.
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January 15, 2011 8:03:25 PM

Yeah she's absolutely gorgeous, no doubt about it, unfortunately I don't have a clue who she is. Sad times.

@Everyone, I'd pwn you in 3DMark Vantage :D .

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January 15, 2011 8:14:49 PM

I get 23k on vantage :( .

VERY nice score on Lightsmark tastelikecrab! DAMN YOU!

Obviously shows this program doesn't push the cards to the limit with only lighting tests. For most of today it's said that two GTX 260's are better than a 570 and a 5850 and now a single 460 has crushed my score lmao.

Even with a pretty insane 900+ core clock, I don't think a single 460 could top two 260s for saying most benchmarks show a 460 should be around 5-10% over 260, both at stock.

Still interested in other peoples scores though. If nothing else, this shows how good certain cards are at lighting effects lol.
January 15, 2011 8:46:13 PM

Well GTX 460 OCs a lot better than the older cards. And I wouldn't say it's 5-10% over a 260. it's about that much over a gtx 285. but when overclocked the new GF104 cards leave everything in the dust because there's just so much headroom for it.

My Vantage score is 18700ish :/  ... well, I have a i3 540 with a poor overclock on it, so I can't really compete there against "proper" systems with i7s, X6s and the like.
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January 15, 2011 9:05:14 PM

I must admit.. I've just been playing around and 702MHz is the top my cards can take :( . I can't change voltages, and anything over 702 forces the cards to fail and drop to 2D profile while in-game. Ahh man..

Oh well. If I was building a new system I'd obviously go for SLI 460s or a 580 or whatever, but for saying I bought my GTX 260's around 14 months ago now they're still performing amazingly :D 
January 15, 2011 9:10:41 PM

No doubt GTX 260 was the best price-wise. It's great for Dx10 stuff.

Already GTX 460s in SLI are outperforming 580s so that seems like the ideal setup for this generation. But it does't matter to me. My board can't do SLI. :/  This was a throwaway build anyway, and I needed a GTX 460 for CUDA. If I'm getting a new rig i'll make sure it's upgradeable.
January 16, 2011 8:41:22 AM

I got 402.6 with my laptop ROFL, but at 1366x768.

I-5 430m @ 2.5 ghz
ATI 5650 @ 680/1000

Not bad for a $650 laptop a year ago.


Can't wait for my new I-7 2820 at 3.7ghz(5ghz hopefully) and 460m in SLI (oc'd for sure) should be on par with your desktops.
a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 1:56:43 PM

Mild oc to 799mhz and here's my second score:


The gtx 260s should surpass my 5850 easily.Maybe it doesn't support sli?Or maybe sli has bad compatibility with it.

Still I pwned you all;)
January 16, 2011 2:32:48 PM

LOL this benchmark is stupid


It iz good to be ze king
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a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 2:40:07 PM

Yeah got to admit.. at first I was happy with the result but it seems pretty all over the place. Might give some insight to how certain GPUs render light and shadow effects, but certainly no indication of overall performance.
a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 3:10:40 PM

acer0169 said:
Yeah got to admit.. at first I was happy with the result but it seems pretty all over the place. Might give some insight to how certain GPUs render light and shadow effects, but certainly no indication of overall performance.


Have to agree.Let's change this thread to a 3dmark 11 thread:p 
a c 125 U Graphics card
a c 125 K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 3:26:33 PM

+1^
January 16, 2011 3:40:10 PM

OR windows 7 performance Index. I have qualms about mine. I get 5.9 on memory and hard disk :/  ... drive's a 640gb caviar black and memory is patriot viper 1600 MHz 7-7-7-20



This is my first Win 7 system so I don't have much of a reference for comparison. Would the drive/memory scores be about right for this rig?
a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 3:51:30 PM

WEI is not trustworthy.Your memory scores are bad(my dominators get 7.2) and your gpu score is too high considering my 5850 is faster.Your hdd score is just like my WD 750 Caviar Black.
This thread has awaken the benchmarker inside me :kaola: 
January 16, 2011 4:06:17 PM

Yeah :/  i thought my RAM was great. Maybe it's because I'm running it on the GA H55-UD2H... What's you 5850 perf index score? On most benches I've seen GTX 460 is around 90% of 5850 so the figures could be right if yours is closer to stock speed. Mine is heavily overclocked.

Anyway here's my 3DMark Vantage score first (Acer can't run DX11).
http://3dmark.com/3dmv/2857095
(With PhysX enabled)

DMark Score: 18703.96 3DMarks
Graphics Score: 15769.45
CPU Score: 42342.06

a c 125 U Graphics card
a c 125 K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 4:12:24 PM

There's some minimum requirements for WEI, for example you need a certain amount of RAM to get higher than 5.9 (I think its 6GB+), and a very fast RAID array or SSD for higher than 5.9 for primary hard disk.

It would be expensive to get 7.9 in everything, my core i7 920 @ 4.3Ghz gets 7.7, maybe a 980X overclocked may get 7.9

Its not really a good indication of system performance, use something like PCMark instead or play some games :) 
a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 4:22:34 PM

I was wrong.It was 7.7 too.
I don't have vantage so here's a 3dmark 11 at 810/1100 and i5 750 at 3.6ghz.
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a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 8:07:11 PM

My vantage score *was* 23K but since starting this thread I've bit the bullet and updated my GPU BIOS(s) for a higher voltage. Since then I've overclocked my GPU from an already overclocked 698MHz, to 745MHz. (making my OC 30% over stock!!)

I'll benchmark this tomorrow.

For now I can show my Win7 scores:



And this obviously shows how silly this scoring system is because you Crab got 5.9 for his 1600MHz RAM, and I get 7.6 with 800MHz DDR2 lmao.
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a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2011 8:08:55 PM

Oh, and notice how Win7 says I have 4095MB total graphics memory.. no idea where this is from as I have two 896MB cards which last time I looked comes to 1.75GB lol.
January 16, 2011 10:05:23 PM

Hmmm weird stuff. Maybe it gave you a higher score based on how much RAM you have rather than how fast it is.

Nice graphics score. 7.9 is max :) 
As for the 4GB graphics memory, I think it's cos of the added 2303 MB of your shared system RAM to the actual graphics RAM. IIRC the trend started initially with AGP which allowed video memory data like textures to be directly "mapped into user address space" and accessed there --previously something programmers dreamed about but wasn't something physically possible... Which reminds me of a funny quote in the original '92 wolf3d where one of the programmer's quotes (John Carmack) was about doing something similar on his NeXTStation.
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January 17, 2011 8:33:43 AM

I've always thought that the only way I could get a good score on Win7 is because of the amount of RAM and nothing do to with the speed. Don't get me wrong.. although people point their nose up and laugh at my 800MHz DDR2 RAM in an otherwise very speedy computer.. having so much of it means my applications and "real world" testing load as fast as a friends 1333MHz DDR3 machine.

On topic..

The Lightsmark 2008 application obviously has something wrong with it.. since my first post I've bios-volt-modded my GPUs and now have them clocked at 745Mhz (apposed to 698Mhz when I started this thread) and the performance increase in Crysis and GTA4 is pretty surprising.. but in Lightsmark I'm struggling to get my original score again lol.

Faster the card = lower the score!?

hmm..
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a b K Overclocking
January 17, 2011 9:52:16 AM

Okay, had to lower my clock to 720MHz as although it was stable in Furmark, Crysis and Lightsmark (lol) in GTA4 my cards would clock-down which they only do when unstable. I've kept the higher shaders clock though.

edit
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I found an option in RivaTuner to force performance mode.. since then I haven't downclocked while gaming.. and am back at 740/1600/1100 WOOO
a c 125 U Graphics card
a c 125 K Overclocking
January 17, 2011 2:40:40 PM

Nice overclock there acer, been having troubles with volt modding my GTX570, gonna try again tonight and hopefully have more success.

Would be amazing to get to 1000Mhz core (Stock is 732Mhz)
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January 17, 2011 3:31:00 PM

acer0169 said:
very interested in seeing how the GTX 570 and 580 compare to my SLI system.


Lightsmark hasn't been updated since 2008, it doesn't cover the cards you request a comparison to, why don't you run a benchmark thread with 3DMVantage, or 3DMark11?

Quote:
# NVIDIA GeForce 5200-9800, 260-280 (partially GeForce Go, Quadro) with July 2008 or newer drivers!
# AMD Radeon 9500-9800, Xnumber, HDnumber (partially Mobility Radeon, FireGL) with July 2008 or newer drivers!


Lightsmark 2008 doesn't even begin to take advantage of what the 570 and 580 can do.
January 17, 2011 4:09:36 PM

acer0169 said:

On topic..

The Lightsmark 2008 application obviously has something wrong with it.. since my first post I've bios-volt-modded my GPUs and now have them clocked at 745Mhz (apposed to 698Mhz when I started this thread) and the performance increase in Crysis and GTA4 is pretty surprising.. but in Lightsmark I'm struggling to get my original score again lol.

Faster the card = lower the score!?

hmm..


Hmmm weird, I never had a decrease in performance in the overclocks so far. Sounds like your clocks are throwing errors in the GPU that the card is trying to autocorrect. This can lower FPS. (At least in the specific case of lighting, if not in other areas). You may be pushing the card a bit further than it can reliably go before the errors pop up.

Or rather, because overclocking will always produce more errors, you normally are trying to balance a relationship something like this:
T_New_Performance > T_Old_Performance + T_Errors

So the new time, T, it takes to render some graphical unit needs to be higher than the old time taken + the time spent on correcting errors that invariably crop up when you overclock. going beyond the threshold results in decreasing returns.

It's actually very easy to cause errors on a chip when you increase the clock rate, and this is nto something that an OCer can test for or detect with much reliability.
This is because increased frequencies will change the characteristic impedances of the silicon and the metal used in construction, such that the impedances are no longer matched. We're talking about several hundred Mhz to even 1GHz and beyond where circuit elements no longer function like lumped circuit components and circuit theory breaks down and electromagnetic effects begin to dominate. at these frequencies things like slew rate, skin effect, parasitic capacitances, etc, begin to come into play.



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January 17, 2011 6:28:43 PM

It's only on Lightsmark that I get a FPS drop though (~5FPS), in Crysis I got a nice 5-10 FPS increase and in GTA I've got a good 5-10 FPS increase as well.
January 17, 2011 6:43:20 PM

5-10 fps is a pretty good boost in performance
a c 125 U Graphics card
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January 17, 2011 6:49:34 PM

To be honest, "5-10 FPS increase" means almost nothing, You'd have to put it into context or atleast a % value.

For example 5-10% increase in performance through overclocking is good, however 5-10FPS increase when I was gettings 200FPS before isn't so impressive.

As your talking about Crysis and possibly the worst console port ever, then I'll assume 5-10FPS is a very good gain. :) 
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January 17, 2011 8:42:50 PM

Crysis.. was around 30FPS while playing, now getting between 35-40.
Sometimes drops to 25FPS, often jumps to around 50FPS.

I don't play many games that run at 200FPS any more lol.. it's all Bad Company 2, Supreme Commander (on both screens) and Crysis here ;) 
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a b K Overclocking
January 17, 2011 8:43:26 PM

(also just checked on MOH:AA and I'm getting a smooth 2600FPS lol.. I can totally see the difference ;)  )
March 15, 2011 2:49:06 PM

Rustyy117 said:
Couldn't top your 260's, which I found strange as I thought GTX260SLI = GTX295, and GTX295=HD5870, and HD5870 is 15-20% slower than GTX480 and GTX480 = GTX570, + I have roughly a 25% OC so my score should be a minimum of 40% better than yours providing OC % = Score increase %.

Anyways congrats on the monster score! :o 

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8952/lmoc.png

WTF?
I think you have to chanche your drivers or check your system on viruses.
My average score 800 FPS (698)
Specs:
5850 1GB@stock
Q6600 @ 3,4 ghz
6GB RAM DDR2 @ 1066 MHZ
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