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hey all,

 

I am trying to put a bit more life into my compaq presario so i doing some minor upgrades.

 

I want to upgrade the video card because right now it is on intel integrated graphics..... it sucks

 

here is the computer
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc [...] 97&lang=en

 

and here is what i want to get
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=1603

 

is this compatible?
I can put in one PCI and this is PCI so I wanted to know if this is a good deal or can I get something better for less money. Keep in mind it should have at least 256 MB of VRAM or more.

 

PS I actually have 512 megs of actual RAM

Thanks


Message edited by Upendra09 on 05-09-2009 at 11:58:38 PM
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don't through away your cash you wont get any improvements with that upgrade, what you need is a new computer

Reply to rangers

I know, and I can't get one right know, besides, I will be building my next rig. For gaming which i just started getting into but i have to use this crappy one, so I got to get a Video card now or I won't be able to play CSS or other steam games like that.


Message edited by Upendra09 on 05-10-2009 at 12:01:46 AM
Reply to Upendra09

sorry dude...but with that computer...not going to happen.

Reply to eagles453809

Thanks, Eagles453809 I understand you.

Do i need to upgrade the processor?

Reply to Upendra09

Your PC does have an AGP slot which would be the obvious choice for a graphics card.

For $10 more this would kill the 8400GS AGP, absolutely obliterate the 8400GS PCI.

Sapphire Radeon HD 3650 Video Card - 512MB GDDR2, AGP 8x
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] &CatId=318

You should check your motherboard specs to see if your AGP slot is 8x, because if its 4x you really should ditch that pc. I would also check what processors your motherboard supports. A 1.2 celeron is incredible slow considering even the $250 netbooks have 1.6Ghz atoms.

Unfortunately your front side bus is listed at 100mhz on the compaq site and if that is indeed your fsb speed, your pc is offically a dinosaur. You can get decent 2.8ghz pentium 4 dell optiplex's offlease from tigerdirect for around $180.

Reply to indigoataxia
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no the problem is with the PCI bus its self, it cant supply enough band width for a graphics card to run properly, even the most up to date computer could not run a PCI graphics card and play a game without the picture sticking all the time

so you have no chance with ur old one, just save ur cash and put it towards ur next computer.

BTW you could get a cheap AMD motherboard with onboard graphics card, it will play all the games out at low res but thay will play, and that would be the cheapest option

Reply to rangers

8400 GS is piece of crap

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Reply to Bluescreendeath

Upgrading that presario will just be a waste of money. Even after adding that 8400GS card, the atom on ION will still be better than it and it still wont play mordern games
Just keep that pc somewhere as a file server or something and get a new pc. Dont waste your cash man. It will do you good with your new build.

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An used card from ebay is the only thing I would upgrade that computer with it you should be able to get a geforce 6600 20 to 25 USD shipped.

Reply to rolli59
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That's totally not worth it. 1.2GHz Celeron, wow! How do you make do with that? You don't want to put "life" into your computer. Its life is over. I can't think of a worse CPU bottleneck. Perhaps a 500MHz Pentium x?

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wise up, it does not matter what card you put in it it wont play games, it has nothing to do with your processor (although it wont help) and everything to do with the band width of the PCI bus.

the fastest card in the world would not play without the image stuttering on the PCI bus, thats why you don't get descent card for that bus

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It has nothing to do with your processor, yeah right. all you need is a "descent" card and you are fine even with a say, 100Mhz CPU?

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Consider playing solitaire because no matter what upgrade you do thats all your gonna be able to play. You need somethng like this guy is selling and maybe get a ATI 4670. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d [...] RK:MESE:IT

Reply to daship

Thanks guys,

 

Your comments were fun to read especially the dinosaur one. So can i upgrade the mobo and processor on this for under 100 dollars and not end up w/ a celeron dual core etc.

 

I was on tigerdirect and the only thing under a 100 dollars was a celeron dual core, which I really don't want.

 

any replies are welcome

 

Thanks


Message edited by Upendra09 on 05-10-2009 at 08:00:20 PM
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You will need a motherboard, processor, and ram. You can do it for around $100

$50 dollar socket 775 mobo.
$49 Intel e1400 2.0 dual core.
$15 for 2g ddr2 800 ram.

Reply to daship

Thanks Daship. i will look into that. i never thought of that

Reply to Upendra09

daship wrote :

You will need a motherboard, processor, and ram. You can do it for around $100

$50 dollar socket 775 mobo.
$49 Intel e1400 2.0 dual core.
$15 for 2g ddr2 800 ram.




$50 mobos? Where? Unless they're used, the cheapest I've seen on newegg is at least $100.
Unless they're mATX mobos...which he shouldn't get.

e1400 is a crap dual-celeron processor. It's totally not worth it.

I don't think DDR2 is that cheap.

I say he should just save up more money for a better build.

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Bluescreendeath wrote :

$50 mobos? Where? Unless they're used, the cheapest I've seen on newegg is at least $100.
Unless they're mATX mobos...which he shouldn't get.

e1400 is a crap dual-celeron processor. It's totally not worth it.

I don't think DDR2 is that cheap.

I say he should just save up more money for a better build.




Plenty of Sub $50 mobos: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rder=PRICE

Theres no reason to buy a more expensive motherboard unless you need more expansion or multi GPU's. MATX boards are just fine.


Today ram is gonna cost you about $20 for 2G, it changes all the time.

The e1400 is a allendale CPU, Same as the e6xxx series 1st generation core 2 duos. It just has smaller cache but it is still one hell of a good CPU and 1000% better then what the OP has.

Reply to daship

So is it a celeron?

And what's wrong with micro ATX boards?

Reply to Upendra09
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Absolutely nothing and the e1400 is a great CPU as well. It aint no quad core or i7 but is leaps and bounds better then what you have, and it is in your budget.

I have built tons of budget rigs with these and they are great. Not to mention this will get you going now, and later you can drop a quad or a faster dual in when you get more money if you feel like you need to.

Reply to daship

well usually the chipsets aren't upto the ATX chipset standard so you might lose a few clocks with oc'ing.

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Reply to rags_20

Thanks everyone. i got alot of good feedback from you guys

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