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ballbuster   07-23-2009 at 01:46:20 AM

ok.. im a little confused on all these.. i get that getting a do over a co is better but what's the deal with the bloomfield- nehalem-xeon stuff.....?? thanks guys

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AKM880   07-23-2009 at 01:48:20 AM
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Xeon is the server CPU if I'm not mistaken.

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ballbuster   07-23-2009 at 01:53:57 AM
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ya.. i think so but, iv'e heard it might a better chip to use in a gaming rig...???

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AKM880   07-23-2009 at 01:57:37 AM
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They probably are different sockets and you can't overclock on server motherboards

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ballbuster   07-23-2009 at 02:14:44 AM
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maybe.. seen some people saying on the help me build my rig forums get the 920 bloomfield.. what the heck is that? is it the xeon? argh.. i only see that and i7 920 nehalem's on newegg..

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lostandwandering   07-23-2009 at 02:25:03 AM
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ballbuster wrote :

maybe.. seen some people saying on the help me build my rig forums get the 920 bloomfield.. what the heck is that? is it the xeon? argh.. i only see that and i7 920 nehalem's on newegg..

 

Bloomfield is a Xeon chip, but it is built for regular X58 motherboards with the LGA1366 socket. What they are telling you to get might be this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819117213 which is the i7 920 equivalent. There is a $20-30 price difference between the two, which is probably not worth it.

 

edit: The i7 950 and the i7 975 Extreme are also Bloomfield chips.


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xtc28   07-23-2009 at 02:29:27 AM
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Bloomfield is the way to go if you want the latest, greatest and fastest. IMO there is nothing better than the best you can get.

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sminlal   07-23-2009 at 08:45:43 AM
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From this Wikipedia article I take the following:

- Nehalim is the name of the microarchitecture. This microarchitecture could (and will) appear in a lot of chips.

- Bloomfield is the project that created the first family of processors using the Nehalim microarchitecture: the "Core i7 9xx" series as well as the Xeon "W35xx" series.


The Core i7 processors are intended for use in desktop systems, while the equivalent Xeons are intended for workstations. For example, the Xeon W3520 is essentially identical to a Core i7 920 except that it supports ECC memory.

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PsychoSaysDie   07-23-2009 at 09:03:08 AM
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Current Xeon's will work in X58 mobo's. Big difference is that they have a 2nd QPI to communicate with a 2nd processor

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Helloworld_98   07-23-2009 at 10:53:02 AM
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^ except the W35xx series.

also server chips generally have better silicon, allowing a higher overclock, hence why W3540's are used over 920's by extreme overclockers.

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ballbuster   07-23-2009 at 04:55:51 PM
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ok..think i get it.. although i have seen most non xeon 920's labeled as a nehalem and a few labeled as bloomfield. are they the same?

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lostandwandering   07-23-2009 at 04:59:01 PM
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ballbuster wrote :

ok..think i get it.. although i have seen most non xeon 920's labeled as a nehalem and a few labeled as bloomfield. are they the same?



I don't believe any of the 920's should be Bloomfield. The older i7 920, 940 and 965 were Nehalem based while the newer i7 930, 950 and 975 are Bloomfield chips

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sminlal   07-23-2009 at 05:04:38 PM
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PsychoSaysDie wrote :

Current Xeon's will work in X58 mobo's. Big difference is that they have a 2nd QPI to communicate with a 2nd processor



[quotemsg=1958273,10,389157]^ except the W35xx series.[/quote]

Exactly - the Xeon W35xx series chips are uniprocessor systems that really are clones of the Core i7 9xx chips, except for the added ECC capability. They will not work in dual-socket systems.

The Xeon E55xx and X55xx series processors are dual-processor capable and designed for use in motherboards with 2 sockets. This means you can have up to 8 "real" cores in a system, and 16 hyperthreaded cores. But you pay a lot extra to get the dual-processor capability...

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sminlal   07-23-2009 at 05:11:44 PM
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ballbuster wrote :

ok..think i get it.. although i have seen most non xeon 920's labeled as a nehalem and a few labeled as bloomfield. are they the same?



Sort of. There are many processors that use the Nehalim microarchitecture. The first family of processor types produced this microarchitecture were from the "Bloomfield" project. The Core i7 9xx and Xeon W35xx processors are the names of the processors that were produced by that project.

See: Wikipedia - Intel Nehalem (microarchitecture)


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Helloworld_98   07-23-2009 at 05:38:00 PM
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lostandwandering wrote :

I don't believe any of the 920's should be Bloomfield. The older i7 920, 940 and 965 were Nehalem based while the newer i7 930, 950 and 975 are Bloomfield chips

 

You have no clue, Nehalem is the General Architecture and Die size, in Nehalem's case it refers to Core iX 45nm.

 

Bloomfield is features and number of cores, 'Bloom' referring to the processor having a triple channel IMC, and 'field' referring to the fact that it is a Quad core processor.

 

so you have, Nehalem -> Bloomfield, Lynnfield and Gainestown.

 

In Lynnfield, 'Lynn' refers to the processor using the 45nm die size, having onboard controllers and having a dual channel IMC.

 

Then in Gainestown, 'Gaines' refers to having the same features as Bloomfield, except it can use ECC memory. and 'Town' refers to it being a Server CPU and that it can be either a dual or quad core processor.


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xtc28   07-23-2009 at 07:25:45 PM
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HMMMMMMM .................... Getting a little upset are we?

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lostandwandering   07-23-2009 at 09:59:37 PM
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xtc28 wrote :

HMMMMMMM .................... Getting a little upset are we?

 

Seriously. If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. Don't be an a$$ about it. :pfff:


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Helloworld_98   07-23-2009 at 10:12:13 PM
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^ Nah, I think he thought I was angry because most people on this forum never make such a long post unless they're annoyed about something.

Anyway, hopefully that summary will help some people in understanding Intel.

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xtc28   07-23-2009 at 11:38:57 PM
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Helloworld is right on the money! And was right in the above post. I wasnt insinuating anything else about you lostandwandering. thinking about it now...... i get why you thought that. Ill quote next time.

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