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April 19, 2009 4:24:24 PM

After doing a lot of research, reading and questioning on this fantastic site, I am now on the verge of ordering all needed components for a good gaming rig. I will also have a few questions if I may.

As stated, this will be an I7 mildly overclocked (3.2 - 3.4) build to play Far Cry 2, Crysis Warhead and for my wife to do her picture editing.

I will order at whatever site I get the best price (time on my hand).

Would you help this old fool?

The build:

1) O/S: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2) Monitor: SAMSUNG ToC T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen HDTV Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) Case: COOLER MASTER NV 690 NV-690C-KWN2-GP Black SECC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4) CPU: Intel Core i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5) Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6) Heathsink: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7) Thermal Compound: ZALMAN ZM - STG1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8) Memory: OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

9) Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1285-AR GeForce GTX 285 SC Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
EVGA 017-P3-1293-AR GeForce GTX 295 1792MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

10) PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

11) Hard Drive: Two Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

12) DVD Burners: Two LITE-ON Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

13) Case Fans: Three Scythe S-Flex SFF21G 120mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

14) Fan Controller (Black): Scythe KM02-SL 5.25" Bay
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

+ two SATA cables for DVD Burners but not sure what length to order.

There it is.

What would you change?

What did I miss?

Any thought or input will be greatly appreciated.

Thanking you in advance,

pinibo

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April 19, 2009 4:31:44 PM

I thought that I could get away with one card. If not, how about 2x 275?
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April 19, 2009 4:33:46 PM

"+ two SATA cables for DVD Burners but not sure what length to order."
SATA cables come with the motherboard. Unless your case is very very large (which it isn't) you don't need the cables- you would need extensions.
Nice build, maybe add an SSD if cost is no factor? Would improve boot times.
April 19, 2009 4:34:45 PM

pinibo said:
I thought that I could get away with one card. If not, how about 2x 275?

2x GTX 275s are fine for any monitor right now. You could easily play anything on High/Ultra High
April 19, 2009 4:39:38 PM

Would 2x 275 come close to a 295?
April 19, 2009 4:45:34 PM

It would surpass it. The GTX 295=2 GTX 260s in SLI. 2x GTX 275s would be very pwerful.
April 19, 2009 4:53:58 PM

Appreciate your responses
April 19, 2009 5:05:24 PM

no a GTX 295 is two GTX 275's with poor scaling hence why the two GTX 260's equal it.

and the 4890 X2 comes out soon which will probably beat the GTX 295.
April 19, 2009 5:26:24 PM

Too bad about that. I would prefer two cards with a little space between them than an X2 for heat reasons.

Maybe I should just bite the bullet and get 2x 285. I guess I would need a more powerful PSU such as Corsair 1000 to run them. Or maybe stay with the hot 295.
April 19, 2009 6:18:51 PM

2x 275 is better bang for your buck right now. should do everything you need them to and more.
April 19, 2009 6:35:10 PM

Can't seem to find any reviews of 2x 275 GTX anywhere.

I need a video set up that will play both Far Cry 2 and Crysis Warhead on a 24" monitor at 1920x1200.
April 19, 2009 7:19:13 PM

2x 275 will just be about 1/2way b/t 260 sli and 285 sli. probably closer to 285.
April 20, 2009 2:05:04 AM

Would anybody else like to comment on this build? I sure would appreciate it.
April 20, 2009 3:03:13 AM

pinibo said:
Would anybody else like to comment on this build? I sure would appreciate it.



Stick with a single gfx card solution . A single gtx 285 will be enough to play any current game on that monitor .

SLI set ups are poor value . The second card wont come any where near doubling the gfx performance . Often the improvement is less than 20 % .

Even a single GTX275 or ATI 4890 will play any current game on maximum settings on a 24 inch lcd
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3539&p=17
April 20, 2009 4:45:25 AM

I play farcry2 at 1920X1200 on my gtx 295 and core I7 920 with NO PROBLEMS. Runs great no stutter!!! See my build in my SIG!!!!!
April 20, 2009 7:20:08 AM

pinibo said:
After doing a lot of research, reading and questioning on this fantastic site, I am now on the verge of ordering all needed components for a good gaming rig. I will also have a few questions if I may.

As stated, this will be an I7 mildly overclocked (3.2 - 3.4) build to play Far Cry 2, Crysis Warhead and for my wife to do her picture editing.

I will order at whatever site I get the best price (time on my hand).

Would you help this old fool?

The build:

1) O/S: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2) Monitor: SAMSUNG ToC T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen HDTV Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) Case: COOLER MASTER NV 690 NV-690C-KWN2-GP Black SECC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4) CPU: Intel Core i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5) Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6) Heathsink: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7) Thermal Compound: ZALMAN ZM - STG1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8) Memory: OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

9) Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1285-AR GeForce GTX 285 SC Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
EVGA 017-P3-1293-AR GeForce GTX 295 1792MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

10) PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

11) Hard Drive: Two Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

12) DVD Burners: Two LITE-ON Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

13) Case Fans: Three Scythe S-Flex SFF21G 120mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

14) Fan Controller (Black): Scythe KM02-SL 5.25" Bay
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

+ two SATA cables for DVD Burners but not sure what length to order.

There it is.

What would you change?

What did I miss?

Any thought or input will be greatly appreciated.

Thanking you in advance,

pinibo


3) I prefer the silverstone fortress series cases. Well ventilated, quiet, you can then eliminate 13) and 14).

5) Why not the WS Rev? I see no IDE's in your proposed build, then you have options for SAS drives, as well as adding more RAM.

7) The paste that comes with the Noctua is better than your choice.

9) The GPU chosen will do quite nicely. A link to a review of various cards in single and dual configs can be found here:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3517
They also did reviews of GPU's in 3 and 4 configurations.




April 20, 2009 7:05:31 PM

Just check if the thermal paste come with the noctua fans. there thermal paste they have is really good. the sata cable, as someone said are included int he mobo package no need to get more. Fro the viedo card I have a bfg gtx295 and I'm really happy , with I can set 2 monitor samsung t260 as one screen and it's really sharp.
April 20, 2009 7:57:49 PM
April 21, 2009 12:22:45 AM

Thanks for all the replies.

Will cancel SATA cables. I assume that there are 4 SATA cables with that motherboard?

Will change DVDs and go with one Samsung x22 and one LG x22.

I like the chosen thermal paste for the ease of putting it on. Just brush on both items and you are good to go.

I want to stay with the CM NV 690. Size of case is OK for my limited space on desk.

I thought that one 285 GTX could run my games. Two, to me, is a waste of money.

Was looking for reviews for 2x 275, but none available. Hopefully one will come before I order. If not, I may go with 295 and hope heath isn't so bad.


One other thing: with one 295 or 2x 275, what would be the right psu to install? 750 or 850?
April 21, 2009 12:41:07 AM

pinibo said:
Thanks for all the replies.

Will cancel SATA cables. I assume that there are 4 SATA cables with that motherboard?

Will change DVDs.

I like the chosen thermal paste for the ease of putting it on. Just brush on both items and you are good to go.

I want to stay with the CM NV 690. Size of case is OK for my limited space on desk.

I thought that one 285 GTX could run my games. Two, to me, is a waste of money.
I am happy to hear that the 295 can do it. So I will go with that and hope the heat isn't too bad.

One other thing: with one 295, what would be the right psu to install thinking that down the road the card could be updated for a newer one? And no more SLI.

An 850W or 800W should be plenty. Most i7 rigs draw ~600W of power @ full load. You'll never do that unless all your components are maxed out.
Also, the 4890x2 is not going to come out, so don't wait for that. The 4890x2 would draw WAY too much power according to fudzilla.
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&ta...

The GTX 295 will run everything maxed out on a 24'' monitor until Crysis 3. You'll be fine and stable with that rig :D .
April 21, 2009 12:43:05 AM

Sorry journeyman. I edited my last post as you replied.
April 21, 2009 12:49:36 AM

pinibo said:
Sorry journeyman. I edited my last post as you replied.

Lol, name's RadioWars (XD). But still, 850W will be fine for Dual GTX 275's or GTX 295.
750W should be fine, but since an 850W is just 10$ more, I'd be on the safe side. Here is my PSU (I love it, and it has great reviews- 80% efficiency means it won't bugger out on you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
April 21, 2009 12:50:35 AM

pinibo said:
Thanks for all the replies.

Will cancel SATA cables. I assume that there are 4 SATA cables with that motherboard?

Will change DVDs and go with one Samsung x22 and one LG x22.

I like the chosen thermal paste for the ease of putting it on. Just brush on both items and you are good to go.

I want to stay with the CM NV 690. Size of case is OK for my limited space on desk.

I thought that one 285 GTX could run my games. Two, to me, is a waste of money.

Was looking for reviews for 2x 275, but none available. Hopefully one will come before I order. If not, I may go with 295 and hope heath isn't so bad.


One other thing: with one 295 or 2x 275, what would be the right psu to install? 750 or 850?


Silverstone FT01 is quite similar in size, has much better cooling. You could always stick on some NV decals...

The Noctua supplied TIM is not any more difficult to apply, just follow the directions.
April 21, 2009 2:17:44 AM

"Lol, name's RadioWars (XD). But still, 850W will be fine for Dual GTX 275's or GTX 295."

Right! I didn't look up high enough...lol!!! My apologies.
April 21, 2009 3:07:57 AM

sassan said:



And change your DVD burner to Pioneer or LG, your media will thank you.



Please explain....? I just ordered a pair of exactly the same lite ons... Do they have problems? With burning? With reading? 99% of what I'll be doing is reading...the only thing I really see myself burning is music CDs...

As for the video card question...A single 4890 will be more than plenty. For that matter, a single 4870 will do it, but I think the extra $$$ for the 4890 is worthwhile, if only for the better antialiasing performance (something the 4870 is supposed to be less than awesome at).
April 21, 2009 3:58:56 AM

This is what you can di with a single GTX 295 and a core I7 at 3.2. No oc on the video card, just the CPU and mild at that!! With a 260 you get about 46 FPS check youtube for the vid. farcry 2 benchmark 260 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtED1rilDYs

April 21, 2009 4:21:54 AM

march10k said:
Please explain....? I just ordered a pair of exactly the same lite ons... Do they have problems? With burning? With reading? 99% of what I'll be doing is reading...the only thing I really see myself burning is music CDs...

As for the video card question...A single 4890 will be more than plenty. For that matter, a single 4870 will do it, but I think the extra $$$ for the 4890 is worthwhile, if only for the better antialiasing performance (something the 4870 is supposed to be less than awesome at).


If you like to make backup copies of your own DVD's then the pioneer and the LG would do a better job, LITEON tends to have a bad way of burning in the data into the blank medias.

Just my two cents, I had experience with bad burners and just letting you know so you don't have to go throw the same headache and trouble of buying expensive media so it will work with your burners.

Reading shouldn't be a problem
April 21, 2009 8:52:55 PM

pinibo said:
"Lol, name's RadioWars (XD). But still, 850W will be fine for Dual GTX 275's or GTX 295."

Right! I didn't look up high enough...lol!!! My apologies.

:na:  It's fine lol. You've got a good build. Tell us when you order it :D !
April 29, 2009 8:31:23 PM

Why not wait for Windows 7? Its gonna be out soon anyway...
May 1, 2009 10:51:42 AM

W7 will not be out until the fall.

Than we will have to put up with all the start up bugs.

Vista 64 is fine.
May 1, 2009 3:28:03 PM

Alright. After some more researching and reading. here is the final build unless someone can point out other flaws on the non-purchased items.

O/S: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116488
Purchased.

Monitor: SAMSUNG ToC T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen HDTV Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824001280
Purchased

Case: COOLER MASTER NV 690 NV-690C-KWN2-GP Black SECC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119157
Purchased

CPU: Intel Core i7 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115202
Purchased

Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel
X58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131365

Heathsink: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835608007

Thermal Compound: CZ OCZTFRZTC Freeze Extreme Thermal Conductivity Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card: Two EVGA 896-P3-1171-AR GeForce GTX 275 Superclocked Edition 896MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive: Three Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Burner: One LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD Burner with LightScribe
DVD Burner: One SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner with LightScribe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case Fan: Two Scythe S-Flex SFF21G 120mm Case Fan
Case Fan: One Scythe KAMA FLEX SA0825FDB12l 80mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Bay Fan Controller: Scythe KM02-BK 5.25" Bay Fan Controller
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

At NewEgg, the build is amounting to approximately $2385 without calculating some shipping charges and rebates.

However, I am purchasing anywhere I get the best price. Already saved a ton on the monitor and the case. Final tally should be close to $2000. With that I am happy.
May 1, 2009 5:07:20 PM

For your case fans buy Noctua their silent. Also the heat spreader on your ram might be a problem with your cpu heat sink. Why are you getting two GTX275? You should get the Gtx285 instead. If your trying to save money then that's good choice.

Your heat sink already comes with premium thermal paste that will perform great.

Here is a better ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Better timing and cheaper.
May 1, 2009 5:10:19 PM

GTX285 or 295 IMO
May 1, 2009 5:40:39 PM

sassan,

After reading the following article, that is when I decided to go that route.
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1554

It is more than enough to play Crysis Warhead and Far Cry 2. It is cheaper than 2x 285 or even one 295.

2x 275 will not be running as hot as one 295.

Thanks for the tip on the ram. I will look into it and maybe go with the following:
mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
!