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The Budget Gaming PC build Challenge for 150 units gaming cafe

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April 20, 2009 3:18:09 PM

Hi guys,
I'm building a 150 unit's internet gaming café. by the way I am from the Philippines. And please suggest where to buy pc components. Any help would be much appreciated.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: April 25 to May 10, 2009

BUDGET RANGE: US$300-400 ( This price range only include CPU, Motherboard, RAM & Graphics card ).

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: OS, case, monitor, hard drive, power supply, optical drive, keyboard, mouse etc….

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com and my supplier here in the Philippines.

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1440x900 I will only use Acer X193Wb Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300
Acer X193Wb Black 19"

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

Key thing's to look up to:
1. Price conscious due to the no. of unit's the cheaper the better but don’t sacrifice the performance and quality.
2. Good stable pc that would last long especially the motherboard.
3. Electricity efficiency ( pc components that is low in electricity consumption is one of the criteria in this build ).

( No. 4 to 5 is not included in this build this is just a reminder for those who are building a internet gaming cafe )

4. No need of good expensive case.
5. Sufficient power supply will do but not much cause the set up has no optical drive and has only one hard drive. ( the lower the watts the better to save electricity and capital price for the power supply )

for sure I’l just use psu calculator:
http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

Here’s the gaming build that I have gathered:

A

E7400 CPU $119.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz


Gigabyte P43 board: $84.99
paste the label here


RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 2048MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231207 $37.99

GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?20103800... $139.99 Total : 382.96


B

cpu + mobo: Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz + GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L(combo) - $144.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.181198

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 2048MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231207 $37.99

HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99 Total : 372.96


C

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... $99.99

[b" target="_blank">GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-UD4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... " target="_blank"> $128.99

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 2048MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231207 $37.99

HD 4870 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... $174.99 Total: 441.96 ( this is too expensive i'l edit this tom. if i can find something else to change )

Any help would be much appreciated[/b]
April 20, 2009 3:40:53 PM

e7400 cpu = $119
p45 Gigabyte Motherboard= $99
4gb Ram ddr2= $44
XFX gtx 250 512mb= $129

Total $395
April 20, 2009 4:08:09 PM

Meant xfx gts 250 not gtx 250 ;) 
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April 20, 2009 4:13:06 PM

also don't forget to add 50w onto what the psu calculator says just to be safe.
April 20, 2009 4:17:10 PM

From newegg. With 150 units i doubt if they'll be overclocked. Going low cost with what's available right now i'd probably go AMD. 7750KUMA CPU, 780G motherboard (integrated graphics so any GPU problems won't put the system totally out of use) sensible upgrade path for long term viability. HD4830 for reasonable performance at your resolution in any game. 2X1 GB DDR2 800 1.8v RAM, again for reasonable performance relatively problem free. It may be worthwhile to pay a little more for an XFX graphic card to get the lifetime warranty. (if applicable in the Philippines)

motherboard - $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM- $21 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - $92 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$243
XFX - $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Just some ideas, good luck.
April 20, 2009 7:07:57 PM

Helloworld_98 said:
also don't forget to add 50w onto what the psu calculator says just to be safe.


You are absolutely right, It is not worth risking for. :)  Thanks
April 20, 2009 7:27:24 PM

I hate to break it to you, but Newegg will not ship internationally. Newegg deals are not going to be an option for you unless you come to the US to pick the stuff up from somewhere you arrange to have it shipped to.
April 20, 2009 9:22:11 PM

uhmm...isn't newegg in canada and shipping to the US is international?
April 20, 2009 9:49:43 PM

Since this is for 150 units in a gaming cafe, I'll assume you won't be overclocking, low power consumption is important, the cheaper the better, and you aren't looking for the top of the line performance.

That said my recommendation would be:

CPU: E5200
Motherboard: G31 (cheapest you can find)
GPU: HD4670 (cheapest you can find)
Ram: 2x2gb DDR2-800 CL5 (cheapest you can get)
April 20, 2009 9:50:33 PM

I'd consider going to Singapore and try to buy as an OEM. With that sort of volume you will be buying as much as some of the retailers do.
Singapore has an incredible electronics market. I forgot the local name but it is 5-6 stories of mostly computer and related equipment.

April 20, 2009 11:26:49 PM

jackbravo said:
uhmm...isn't newegg in canada and shipping to the US is international?

No its in the US, and Newegg.ca is its only branching off to where it ships internationally (and those Canadians get railed by shipping and taxes as a result).
April 21, 2009 1:27:13 PM

xthekidx said:
No its in the US, and Newegg.ca is its only branching off to where it ships internationally (and those Canadians get railed by shipping and taxes as a result).




hmmmm I think your right they can’t ship it here in the Philippines, but my cousin there do have friends in Johnny air cargo. He said they only charge the wait and the size of the cargo. And they will ship the item, but if this is not possible its ok my supplier will supply it for me. Maybe 5 to 10 percent higher than the price of newegg.

Thanks anyway
April 21, 2009 1:44:13 PM

mindless728 said:
CPU + MOBO: ASUS M3N78-VM + AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

MEMORY: G.SKILL 4GB DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTS 250 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $295.96
leaves about $100, in case parts are hard to find or shipping/whatnot



Good AMD budget build but my only concern is the chipset of the board. ( NVIDIA GeForce 8200 )

plus the chipset is NVIDIA GeForce 8200 is this chipset good for gaming?

Plus it is a Micro board. I do have lots of bad experiences when it comes to micro board. I’m not sure of this one, is really ATX board better than micro board or vice versa anybody? please comment on this one …..

April 21, 2009 1:50:13 PM

xthekidx said:
No its in the US, and Newegg.ca is its only branching off to where it ships internationally (and those Canadians get railed by shipping and taxes as a result).



ah, my bad. i wonder how come they don't charge taxes then....
April 21, 2009 2:05:12 PM

omen727 said:
I'd consider going to Singapore and try to buy as an OEM. With that sort of volume you will be buying as much as some of the retailers do.
Singapore has an incredible electronics market. I forgot the local name but it is 5-6 stories of mostly computer and related equipment.




Its very risky to buy there. If theirs a factory defect or damage in some of my pc peripherals. Shipping it there in Singapore from the Philippines for warranty exchange cud take time plus the shipment fee. I think. I will just get all the computer stuff to my supplier here in the Philippines. The price is a little bit higher than newegg, but it is safe and the risk involve is to small.

Thanks anyway
April 21, 2009 4:29:47 PM

jackbravo said:
ah, my bad. i wonder how come they don't charge taxes then....


They do, we pay duty fees on them.
April 21, 2009 4:51:57 PM

zealotz said:
Good AMD budget build but my only concern is the chipset of the board. ( NVIDIA GeForce 8200 )

plus the chipset is NVIDIA GeForce 8200 is this chipset good for gaming?

Plus it is a Micro board. I do have lots of bad experiences when it comes to micro board. I’m not sure of this one, is really ATX board better than micro board or vice versa anybody? please comment on this one …..

The only thing about mATX boards it they limit upgrades in the future. If you will build these PC's and then not mess with them afterwards then an mATX is probably a better option because they are cheaper.

But don't get an Nvidia chipset. Get Intel or AMD.
April 21, 2009 10:05:52 PM

xthekidx said:
The only thing about mATX boards it they limit upgrades in the future. If you will build these PC's and then not mess with them afterwards then an mATX is probably a better option because they are cheaper.

But don't get an Nvidia chipset. Get Intel or AMD.



hey thanks

please give me a comment on this build

For me right now I think the best gaming build is letter B any comment on this one or any additional gaming build.
My reason is that most of the games don't need fast processors but really need fast graphic's card. I'm not sure on this one but through my experience I think it’s true and more Ram.


A

E7400 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115206 $119.99

Gigabyte P43 board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128380 $84.99

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 2048MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231207 $37.99

GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 2010380048 $139.99 Total : 382.96


B

cpu + mobo: Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz + GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L(combo) - $144.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.181198

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 2048MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231207 $37.99

HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102801 $189.99 Total : 372.96
April 21, 2009 10:17:18 PM

+1 for build B

I'd get the 512mb version of the 4870 at that resolution though. I doubt there would be much need for the extra memory at a relatively low resolution like that.
More importantly, it'd save you a good deal since you're buying in large amounts

Sapphire 4870 515mb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$164.99 ($149.99 after MIR)
Even if you can't do the rebate, thats still $25 saved per card.

You could even consider a GTS 250 or a 4850 at that resolution, though at highest settings they might start having problems.

Also, a small overclock on the processors to, say, 2.7-2.9ghz would give a good free performance boost.

a b 4 Gaming
April 22, 2009 9:40:18 AM

Easy - no/minimal OC + upgrade path + IGP in case discrete poofs so u still have functional machines ( a bit of practical mindedness)

X2 7750
Biostar A760G <-- a crapload more readily available in Asia than USA anyways!
2GB DDR 800 value ram
HD 4830
XP
Good to go for el cheapo 1440 x 900 gaming
April 24, 2009 7:06:27 AM

ok then if that’s the case I’l go 100% sure to
E7400 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115206 $119.99

what is the advantage of this board:
Gigabyte P43 board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128380 $84.99
compare to:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128357 $52.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131288
So that I can decide if it is worth saving a few $ let as say $84.99 – 52.99 = $32


Another option is to increase my price range to $300-450 so that everything is almost perfect what do you think? Anybody comments please... and by the way thanks to everybody who help me through this build now i'm 99% confident of this gaming build. :) 

E7400 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115206 $119.99

Gigabyte P43 board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128380 $84.99

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 2048MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231207 $37.99

HD 4870 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] on%100259L $174.99
( the reason why I choose 512 to 1GB cause I will only use a MONITOR RESOLUTION @ 1440x900 and I can saved $25 per card ).

Total: $417.96
April 24, 2009 9:45:29 PM

Sir, your links are broken
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