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April 22, 2009 3:03:06 PM

Sorry I put this in the wrong section

Ok am new to the whole building game but I want to give it ago.

Budget: £700, Can go slightly over but I would like to keep it around this figure.

Purpose: gaming PC - watching movies - occasional warcraft

Would like to buy the parts from scan.co.uk or overclockers.co.uk or any other UK site except for ebuyer - would like to buy start building within 2 weeks.

Reliability is very important to me so I would like this system to last a minimum of three years without any problems.

Overclocking: Would like to give it a try, just a simple OC

Motherboad: Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4, AMD 790X, AM2+, PCI-E 2.0(x16), DDR2 1066/1200/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX

CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition, Sok AM3, 2.8GHz, 7.5MB Total Cache, 95W, Retail

GPU: 1GB XFX HD 4870 XXX, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), 3800MHz GDDR5, GPU 775MHz, 800 Cores, 2x DL DVI-I/ HDTV

Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Midi Tower Case w/o PSU

PSU: 580W HiperPower HPU-4M580 Black SLi Ready 20+24Pins P8 Ready ATX2.2/BTX

RAM: 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, DHX

HDD: 500 GB Western Digital WD5000AAKS Caviar SE16, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1* 64Bit 1Pk OEM (DVD)

Optical: LG GH22NS40 22x DVD±R, 16xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 ,12xRAM SATA, Black, OEM

Still missing an air cooler, don't know which to get. Not really sure about com

Not sure about compatability, also not sure if i've left anything out which is vital. Was considering changing the processor up to a phenom II x4 940 BE and to offset the price I would changing the GPU to one of the 4850s but from what i've read not many games take full advantage of 4 cores so I opted for a better GPU instead.
Would appreciate any pointers on which parts I could change up.
I forgot I don't need a monitor got a samsung syncmaster 205bw 20 inch, 1680 x 1050 I believe

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April 22, 2009 4:00:02 PM

CF later? you'll need a more powerful psu.

also CL4 ram isn't really worth it in 800mhz ram, use the money for 1066mhz CL5 ram since amd processors benefit more from the extra mhz.

also download windows se7en RC1 since it doesn't expire and will save you £90.
April 22, 2009 5:10:23 PM

Ok changed the ram to:


also changed the PSU to

wasn't happy about the case and changed it to

also found this cooler

I might try crossfire much much later on but it's quite unlikely. Any incompatibilities I should be aware of?
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April 22, 2009 5:19:53 PM

Would this PCU be enough? OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Modular Power Supply
April 22, 2009 5:23:33 PM

not if your crossfiring.

also spend more on your PSU, if it fails then say goodbye to the rest of your system.

also arctic cooling's heatsink offering's aren't that much better than the stock heatsinks.

follow what I said and use the win7 RC since it will be free to everyone on may 5th and doesn't expire. that will free up a lot of cash for gfx card etc.
April 22, 2009 5:56:30 PM

Change the WD5000AAKS to WD6401AALS, it's much faster than the WD5000AAKS.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=886317

Reliability is very important to you but you want to play with overclocking anyway. Sorry, you can have one or the other, not both. If you do overclock, at least improve your chances by doing lots of testing with memtest86 and prime95 and other tools like that.

Smart choice, X3 720+ HD 4870 will beat Phenom II 940 + HD 4850 in most games. In fact, I think FSX and GTA4 are the only exceptions.

April 22, 2009 7:36:08 PM

Thanks for the tips, am assuming that the stock cooling would be enough for OCing the x3 to 3.0GHz, correct me if am wrong.
April 22, 2009 7:49:10 PM

well I think it can take it to 3.2 albeit with fairly high temps, not i7 high though.
April 22, 2009 9:16:19 PM

Any recommendations for cooling and psu?
April 23, 2009 2:32:41 AM

PSU: Corsair 650W or even better 750W. Both can handle HD 4870 Crossfire, so you can add a second card later if you feel like it.

I'll try to find you a good cooler that fits in the Antec 300 at www.scan.co.uk.
April 23, 2009 3:53:22 AM

aevm said:
Xigmatek HDT-S1283, 30 pounds.
It fits in the Antec 300 and does an incredible job for the price.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Xigmatek-HDT-S1283-(HDT)-120mm-PWM-Fan-x3-Heat-pipe-LGA775-K8-AM2-Cpu-cooler-Quad-Core-Ready


Thanks for the help but i had switched the case earlier on to will the cooler still be able to fit this? The change in case was made purely for aesthetic reasons so I was wondering if both cases are close to each other performance wise or should i go back to the Antec 300?
April 23, 2009 8:30:27 AM

I've picked out this psu Corsair TX 650W ATX SLi Compliant Power Supply (CMPSU-650TXUK) , I think it will get the job done.
April 23, 2009 2:14:15 PM

Yeah, it will get it done all right.
April 23, 2009 2:34:35 PM

That Enermax case is 8.5" wide, and the Antec 300 is 8.1" wide. Since the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 fits in the Antec 300, it should fit in the Enermax too, in theory. However, the Enermax has a huge side fan, and that causes problems. Here's a comment I found on the NCIX site (a retailer in Canada):

Quote:
This case is alright but because of the side fan (which is wired through the side panel to outward facing controls) sticks too far into the case and it will not close with a full size heatsink in place. Would not recommend. There are plenty of better ones out there.


I'd say go back to the Antec 300. Check out the CM-690 too.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-145-CM&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=


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