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Intel GMA 4500HD, Seeking ATI LowProfile card with better speed.

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May 14, 2009 5:58:18 PM


Hello,

I refined my question/desires so I am re-posting with a different angle.


Problem:

My integrated Intel GMA 4500HD isn't all that sharp with text so I wish
to buy an ATI lowprofile card that displays very sharp text to replace it.

Needs:
My Slim PC only accepts low-profile cards.
A fanless (silent) card is highly desirable to me.
I don't game and just need a super snappy XP/Windows 7 desktop experience.

ATI Low-Profile options are:

ATI 4350, 4550, 4650 (that's it for lowprofile)


Questions:
1) Will an ATI 4350 card be as fast or faster than the Intel GMA 4500HD?

(There is a fanless ASUS 4350 on newegg. ASUS doesn't seem to make
anything faster in a "fanless" design. Saphire makes a fanless 4550 but
I read the text isn't as sharp with the Saphire brand and that's my issue
with the GMA 4500HD)

2) If I went to a fan-cooled ASUS 4550 would I notice a snappier XP/Windows 7
desktop?

3) If I went to a fan-cooled PowerColor 4650 would I notice a snappier XP/Windows 7
desktop?


Thanks again...



May 14, 2009 6:15:24 PM

Buy the best card you can on your budget!!
I would advice against buying a fanless card however, especially in a slimline case because of poor air flow overheating might be an issue.
a b U Graphics card
May 14, 2009 6:20:40 PM

1) Probably** (although, I don't care for fanless cards)

2) Yes** (try to get the GDDR3 model)

3) Definitely**

**Almost any dedicated graphics card will be much better than onboard graphics. But you may not notice it unless you use it. It should help make the desktop snappier, but your processor also matters. As far as text clarity goes, your monitor also makes a big difference.
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May 14, 2009 6:48:14 PM

AFAIK the only real issue with getting clearer text is the monitor and the use of VGA. DVI will send a much better signal and I have noticed great differences in the same monitor and computer (text-wise) just by using DVI instead of VGA.

Moot point for you, though, as you probably only have VGA out so in order to get DVI you will need a new card anyway. Just make sure your new card has DVI and your monitor can support DVI. Otherwise I fear you will be wasting your money.

I don't get into ATI cards so I can't tell you what's what...

Oh, check ClearType which makes fonts look much smoother in many cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType
May 14, 2009 7:08:18 PM

Using the same monitor and cable (LCD is VGA only) on my old Dell with integrated
Nvidia graphics yields much sharper text then my new Dell with GMA 4500HD. Fact.
No amount of adjusting of the monitor itself or the intel video control panel fixes
the text quality to equal the Nvidia in my old Dell.

I am just trying to get the same level of quality text as I had before with this
same monitor. The Intel GMA 4500HD is a really disappointment with text
quality.
a c 199 U Graphics card
a b å Intel
May 14, 2009 7:17:42 PM

Are you running the monitor at its native resolution? If not, it will look worse, even if it makes the text bigger.
May 14, 2009 7:32:56 PM

Yes of course.. The monitor is running at native resolution.

When I move the cable to the old dell with Nvidia Integrated Graphics
text it ultra crisp. The new Dell with GMA 4500HD is ok but the text
in not as crisp. Not at all.

On some web pages like yahoo mail, the text is kind of blurry on the
GMA 4500HD. Switch the video cable to the old Dell machine w/nvidia
and URL to Yahoo mail and the fonts are super crisp.
May 15, 2009 12:41:19 AM

ok.. Maybe I won't go fanless if it's a bad idea..

How about PowerColor? Does PowerColor have a decent reputation?
Is there any reason I shouldn't buy a PowerColor 4650 or the ASUS 4550?
(The only reason I'd buy the ASUS would be that ASUS is such a high quality brand)


I am thinking either an ASUS 4550 due to the company's reputation:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or PowerColor for an extra $10 I get twice the speed:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 191 U Graphics card
May 15, 2009 11:53:10 AM

It really is now your choice, mate but try checking the Newegg reviews of the Powercolor and asus cards in normal profile form before making the choice.
There is no reason not to get the HD4650 apart from price, either card will do what you want but the 4650 will do some light gaming as well.
December 2, 2009 3:29:14 AM

We have a fleet of mostly low-profile PCs from Dell and HP at work, and I've eventually settled on the ASUS cards as being my favourite. Their single-piece back bracket and overall build quality are pretty good. Some, such as PowerColor and Sapphire, are good quality cards but a real pain to install in a low-profile case.

I have the 4350 Silent and the 4550 active-cooled sitting on my desk right now. The Silent models don't have too much trouble with heat, but you should know that the heatsink on them is HUGE with a capital HUGE. If you have a northbridge cooler or hard drive mount in that general area on your PC, you can forget fitting the SILENT in there.

The ASUS 4550 has a pretty good heat-sink with a tiny, metal mounted fan. I'd still prefer this to the reference cooler; the plastic fan mounts had a tendency to melt into a puddle on some of our machines that get used 24/7 - I'm sure they'd have been fine in an environment that isn't running them at full pelt all day, but on a few of our radiology (non-diagnostic) workstations they were rendering images around the clock.

Anyway, I'd have to admit ASUS are the best option if you're stuck with a low-profile box.
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