Rookie System Builder - Need Some Help

Hi All -

I appreciate your help in advanced.

I am upgrading from my almost 4 year old Dell (E6400 Core 2 Duo / 7900 GTX) as it's been giving me a ton of problems lately and I think its time to move on :bounce:

The basic use of my computer is World of Warcraft / MS Office / Some minor editing of video (FRAPS) / music, movies, etc... nothing too extreme or out of the ordinary.

I've been looking around for a month or so now trying to come up with a list of parts I think may serve my needs and this is what I've come up with - I am really afraid I may be under or overshooting for the overall computer needs I have or possible picking incompatible parts, so any guidance would be awesome. I am trying to stay under $1400 if possible - under would be awesome if I can get away with it. The current parts I have picked are sub $1000 - but I need to still grab a monitor.

Please critique away!

Thanks again.

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AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX - Retail

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB

(2) G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory = 8 GB Total

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM

COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 - OEM

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
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  1. The build looks good. You've done your homework. :)

    The PSU will work fine for one GPU, but if you think you'll ever want to add another GPU in crossfire I would step up to a 750W PSU.

    CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=750tx $119.99 - $10 MIR
  2. The CM 690 is a big upgrade on the case for another 10 bucks:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

    As Shortsuff says, the Corsair 750TX might be good for you.

    If you are sticking to a single card, this BFG LS-550 is probably the better PSU:
    (edit: Ooops I don't mean better than the Corsair, I mean better than the OCZ you picked)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702008&Tpk=BFG%20LS-550

    Or, for higher quality:

    Corsair 550VX
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004&Tpk=550VX

    You won't see any difference in gaming with 8GB over 4GB of RAM. Minor video editing doesn't warrant the extra 4GB.

    Given those adjustments, you COULD upgrade to a PII 955 or even an Intel build... but you would likely be happy with that and save some.
  3. Thanks for the responses.

    I've switched to the Corsair CMPSU-750TX per recommendation by shortstuff_mt, and I have also opted to get only 1 of the RAM kits per Proximon's adjustment. I have also switched to the CM 690 case - thanks!

    Anyone else have any ideas to tweak the build?
  4. Just some thermal paste:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

    Follow the directions from Arctic Silver's site:
    http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appinstruct/as5/Ins_as5_amd_quad_wcap.pdf

    Since it's a Heatpipe Direct Touch (HDT) type cooler, you might gain some insight from the post about 3/4 of the way down this thread:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/248035-29-xigmatek-s1283-e8400
  5. I was just about to order this when I read on a few forums about problems with the 4870 and World of Warcraft - can anyone who has a Phenom II 940 + 4870 card comment on how WoW works if they happen to play it? :)
  6. My 4870 works fine. I think newer drivers fixed those issues. Where any of the posts you saw dated recently?
  7. Proximon -

    What started my search was the last review for the 4870 1Gig Sapphire I was going to go with

    "I get as low as 4 fps to 40 fps in World of Warcraft for which I bought the card. There seems to be a compatibility issue with Wow and the card/drivers. Tried old/new drivers and everything in between to get results to no avail."

    I then searched google for some more info and came across this thread in the WoW forums concerning performance issues with 4850/4870s and WoW which is where I started to get concerned :)

    These had posts going up to April of 2009 so it seems to be a current issue?

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11829372874&sid=1&pageNo=30

    I just don't want to spend a lot of money upgrading and then not be able to play as well as I could on even my old PC
  8. How many million people play WoW now?

    I'll tell ya what, I'll log in to Dalaran right now and check the frame rates... brb.
  9. In Dalaran with about 50 people on the screen, running around and jumping like they do :p

    Average 40 FPS with one droop to 34, and as high as 52.

    This is with around 80 installed mods
    1680x1050
    EVERYTHING set to high detail.

    E8400 @ 3.6Ghz
    P5Q-E
    4GB CAS 4 800mhz RAM
    Sapphire 4870 512MB Toxic edition
    Corsair 750TX
  10. You sure are spending a lot of money to play WoW. You could probably get away with spending a lot less , and only spend around 800 bucks , 600 if your REALLY lucky. E-mail me at Drudicta@hotmail.com if you'd want it down that low ,it wont be the best , but it will play WoW at its best, and do your video editing.
  11. Best directions I have seen for applying thermal goop to a direct contact heatsink:

    http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=5
  12. jsc said:
    Best directions I have seen for applying thermal goop to a direct contact heatsink:

    http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=5
    It's not hard to put thermal paste on. ^^; You just put a little on your finger , what I call a "dab" and spread it on the processor being careful not to touch the edges so it doesnt go over , and make sure you use a small enough amount that its paper thin. Not that difficult. You made it seem way harder then it is. ^^; But not as hard as those instructions did. lol.
  13. hey guys - as an update I was about to order the AMD system this morning when I noticed this really good deal for a

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    GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R Core i7/ Intel X58/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard + Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920 2.66GHz 8MB LGA1366 CPU, Retail for $400 combo..

    So I am thinking it may be better value for me to spend the extra $100 and upgrade to the i7 build from the Phenom II x4 940

    here are my other parts - mostly the same - please let me know what you guys think!

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    LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model GH22LS30 - OEM

    COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

    Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM

    CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

    G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ - Retail

    XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail

    SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM

    GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R

    Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920

    Total - $1100 :bounce:
  14. go for it since you do video editing, it might only be just as good in WoW though.
  15. I figure it might help ease my potential buyer's remorse too...lol
  16. I think you should spend the extra 10-15 bucks on corsairs 750 watt , besides It's really shiny. :P I felt like I got a brick of gold when I opened the thing up.
  17. Great idea! And yes, it's not going to make much difference in WoW. Unless some large RAID fights benefit from a bit more processing power.
  18. doh -- i've already pulled the trigger. Is the 750 corsair vs the 650 corsair I ordered going to cause me major problems? I don't think ill be doing dual video cards anytime in the foreseeable future
  19. Ah.... well you can always cancel the order cant you? you just barely did it. And its a REALLY nice power supply. lol
  20. Actually, The Corsair TX650 is quieter. It's a Seasonic unit where the 750TX (which I own) is a CWT. They are both great, but the build quality is actually better on the 650. IF you are certain it's just a single card setup, then I believe the 650 is a fine choice.
  21. I wouldn't worry about it. The 650TX is a great PSU also.
  22. True. They're TX series is a finer build. *shrugs* I just like overkill.
  23. ok - please noone recommend any more changes I think my head may explode! And thanks all for your help once again..I'm pretty sure I went overboard w/ the build but for $1050 all said and done I think it's okay! :)
  24. I think your going to enjoy your computer for a loooooooong time , its bad ass. *thumbs up*
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