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April 28, 2009 3:17:56 PM

I recently made a post about this but my last one wasnt well written,

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Probably this week

BUDGET RANGE: 900$ - 1000$ give or take

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Watching movies, Surfing the net.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers,

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg has been good so far

PARTS PREFERENCES: though nvidia always seems to out preform ati if you can convince me otherwise

OVERCLOCKING: NO

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: dont think i could fit 2 cards in my budget

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680 x 1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: The last build i was suggested was good but built around overclocking, i would like to stay away from that,

Thanks in advance.

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a b 4 Gaming
April 28, 2009 3:51:24 PM

Vista Home Premium 64-bit $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

SH-S223Q burner $26

RC-690 $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137&Tpk=RC-690

No need for aftermarket cooler since you won't OC.

WD6401AALS disk $75

So far it's about $275 out of $900. You still have $625 for GPU/PSU/CPU/MB/RAM.

The GTX 285 is out of your reach at around $400. The next best is HD 4890 at $230,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
or GTX 275 at $250.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130475
They trade blows in benchmarks, and the price is similar, so pick whatever you prefer.

Add a Corsair 750TX for $100. That will let you add a second video card later, when/if you need it and when you have more money (and the cards are cheaper).

You're left with about $300 for CPU/MB/RAM.

At this point we can rule out i7 920 builds, since X58 boards alone are around $300.

One solution would be this combo for $173
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.186575
and a $140 Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core.
This would work very well with a HD 4890 now and another later, because that board supports Crossfire (two ATI cards).

If you prefer the GTX 275, the CPU/MB/RAM could be something like this:
E8400 (dual-core) $168
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI FTW $130
and some 2x2GB DDR2-800 RAM (say, $50)



April 28, 2009 5:57:18 PM

Nicely done Aevm.
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April 28, 2009 6:36:02 PM

aevm said:
Vista Home Premium 64-bit $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

SH-S223Q burner $26

RC-690 $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137&Tpk=RC-690

No need for aftermarket cooler since you won't OC.

WD6401AALS disk $75

So far it's about $275 out of $900. You still have $625 for GPU/PSU/CPU/MB/RAM.

The GTX 285 is out of your reach at around $400. The next best is HD 4890 at $230,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
or GTX 275 at $250.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130475
They trade blows in benchmarks, and the price is similar, so pick whatever you prefer.

Add a Corsair 750TX for $100. That will let you add a second video card later, when/if you need it and when you have more money (and the cards are cheaper).

You're left with about $300 for CPU/MB/RAM.

At this point we can rule out i7 920 builds, since X58 boards alone are around $300.

One solution would be this combo for $173
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.186575
and a $140 Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core.
This would work very well with a HD 4890 now and another later, because that board supports Crossfire (two ATI cards).

If you prefer the GTX 275, the CPU/MB/RAM could be something like this:
E8400 (dual-core) $168
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI FTW $130
and some 2x2GB DDR2-800 RAM (say, $50)


the ati/amd combo you posted seemed to be better than the gtx 275, i looked at some benchmarks of the ati overclocked and it was really close too, should i overclock it if i get that?
April 28, 2009 6:43:57 PM

if you get the 4890 oc it, you can reach GTX 285 speeds and above with it.
April 28, 2009 6:59:30 PM

Helloworld_98 said:
if you get the 4890 oc it, you can reach GTX 285 speeds and above with it.


should i use the auto-tune feature in the catalyst control center then? will it damage the card
April 29, 2009 3:50:13 AM

so will the amd phenom ii x4 920 also work with that mobo because with that deal on the case it is the exact same price
April 29, 2009 12:41:39 PM

They say AM3 CPU's work with AM2+ socket type motherboards, im not sure about the am2+ cpu's working with am3 socket type motherboards, i dont think it works that way after seeing the top motherboard a x4 940 can use is am3/am2+ which is the ud4p + ddr2 memory.

you want full am3 go with x3 720 or the x4 955 am3 cpu's.
a b 4 Gaming
April 29, 2009 1:15:25 PM

Hmm for the same gaming frames compared to previous configs discussed and since TS stated no OCing and no desire for multi GPU set up:

$812.92
free shipping
$ 20.00 MIR
$792.92 Total expenses
April 29, 2009 2:21:15 PM

Budget is $900-$1000, i'd take batuchka's raise the board and psu and your ready and probably get G.skills 1066mhz 2x2gb but, remember, that is a am2+ cpu, if you upgrade, you will have to upgrade cpu + motherboard + ram.

April 29, 2009 2:24:50 PM

batuchka said:
Hmm for the same gaming frames compared to previous configs discussed and since TS stated no OCing and no desire for multi GPU set up:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/7xxHD4890rig.jpg
$812.92
free shipping
$ 20.00 MIR
$792.92 Total expenses


pretty nice build but is there a better board i could get and some ddr3 ram instead? also 1000$ is just my limit cheaper is always better, with that price i'll be able to order a bit sooner too.
April 29, 2009 2:38:41 PM

Heres a Full AM3 Build

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX HD-489A-ZDFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
1. AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3
2. GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
1. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
2. Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB

Comes out to be $1050 without Rebates

If you needed to, lower the Gpu to a 4870, that will bring you in the $900 range.

Reason why i chose the x4 955 even though its just an over voltaged x4 940 is because it's full am3, you would need a big upgrade if you went with a am2+ cpu
April 29, 2009 3:00:42 PM

fullmetall said:
Heres a Full AM3 Build

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX HD-489A-ZDFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
1. AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3
2. GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
1. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
2. Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB

Comes out to be $1050 without Rebates

If you needed to, lower the Gpu to a 4870, that will bring you in the $900 range.

Reason why i chose the x4 955 even though its just an over voltaged x4 940 is because it's full am3, you would need a big upgrade if you went with a am2+ cpu

would i save money in the long run then because thats alot of money to spend
April 29, 2009 3:03:52 PM

You put Budget $900-$1000, i met your limit, now its to much?

Your getting a full out AM3 build on a quad cpu...
a b 4 Gaming
April 29, 2009 3:07:15 PM

First off there is no need to move into a new mobo+RAM because the IMC on AM3 chips can talk to both DDR2 and DDR3. The only instance an AM2+ mobo becomes a dead end is when AMD decides IMC on AM3 chips would be DDR3 exclusive. The gains though from going from DDR2-->DDR3 are nothing to shout home about and then there are costs incurred.... Secondly we are only moving to multi core optimisation: do u see that 940BE become too slow a gaming chip a few years down the road? There is always the option of OCing that chip as well and tbh u are most likeliest going to pump more on GPU over the course of a gaming rigs life...
April 29, 2009 3:11:36 PM

fullmetall said:
You put Budget $900-$1000, i met your limit, now its to much?

Your getting a full out AM3 build on a quad cpu...


no its fine i mean if i can save money thats always good but if i will be saving money in the long run thats good too, but besides that all the reviews on the ocz reaper ram you posted they are saying you have to change the ram speed to 6-6-6-20, how do i do that?
April 29, 2009 3:28:40 PM

Simple bios settings, easy youtube look up, if needed, theres more options in ram.

6-6-6-20 just seems to be the best tight ram, can always go for a more loose ram since you wont oc and keep your stuff more stable instead of real fast performance.

it does save a bit, if you were to get the x4 940 build, it would still be in the $900 and later on, ram/board/cpu would need to be changed if you wanted full am3 support, thats another $500 for all those.
a b 4 Gaming
April 29, 2009 3:39:39 PM

TS - suggest you read up on :

1. Backwards compatibility AM3 cpu + AM2+ mobo on DDR2 RAMS
2. Gains going from DDR2 --- DDR3
3. Costs incurred
April 29, 2009 3:51:31 PM

AM3 cpu's are compatable with any am2+ motherboard.

if it is needed, you can get a ddr2 memory ( which is $10 less than DDR3 )

motherboard ( which costs $30 cheaper than the am3 motherboard )

AM3 parts have been coming down in price pretty fast so, if you want, go ahead, still in the end, you will need to upgrade the motherboard and ddr2 memory for full am3 which, IMO is a waist since what was given to you is in your budget range as posted.

Have fun.

April 30, 2009 1:27:20 AM

batuchka said:
TS - suggest you read up on :

1. Backwards compatibility AM3 cpu + AM2+ mobo on DDR2 RAMS
2. Gains going from DDR2 --- DDR3
3. Costs incurred


i think im going to go with your build because that seems really good, just one question, how will it compare to that computer gaming wise, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168..., my friend just got that for 1k open box and doesnt think that you can save much money building a computer
April 30, 2009 2:16:19 PM

No, you can build a top single card of the line build for that much on an i7 core...something he didn't look into.

For 1, its a lga 775 for that price

2, its running 800w on a single gtx 260

3, its an nvidia chipset which are overpriced.

That build is just for looks..

April 30, 2009 2:28:54 PM

Heres something to look at,

Let's say you get the AM2+ compatable parts, 2 years go buy and you want to upgrade because theres a new chip out thats only am3 compatable. Now your looking at ddr3 + mobo + cpu, theres $500 oh and you plan to want another monitor, theres anoter $200+, your spending almost $700 which is how much the am3 rig if you buy now will be then or cheaper.

Now, heres with the AM3 which is under $1k already, you buy it, you run it for 2 years, that cpu comes out and you want it. You already have everything you need, just want that cpu and a monitor. That's saving isn't it..
May 1, 2009 3:45:22 AM

fullmetall said:
Heres something to look at,

Let's say you get the AM2+ compatable parts, 2 years go buy and you want to upgrade because theres a new chip out thats only am3 compatable. Now your looking at ddr3 + mobo + cpu, theres $500 oh and you plan to want another monitor, theres anoter $200+, your spending almost $700 which is how much the am3 rig if you buy now will be then or cheaper.

Now, heres with the AM3 which is under $1k already, you buy it, you run it for 2 years, that cpu comes out and you want it. You already have everything you need, just want that cpu and a monitor. That's saving isn't it..


EDIT (again) well sense my parents arnt being assholes anymore i think i will go with your build because i dont want to spend more money later just to save money now. just a few questions, how exactly do i change the timing on the ram and what should i change it to? do i need to buy thermal paste, and i already asked this once but this build will run better than that computer i mentioned earlier right? ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... that one)
May 1, 2009 2:20:20 PM

I would say Q9550's and 955 are right below a i7, there good but, Q9550 is not future proof. Getting lga would include in getting about the same amount later on as the same as a am2+.

Mobo/CPU/ram/etc.

+ for gaming, since it relies mainly on the gfx card, your puting a gtx 260 vs the 4890 1gb in the build i put together.

im sure the am3 build would out run the lga 775 socket in the long run.




May 2, 2009 6:29:00 AM

fullmetall said:
I would say Q9550's and 955 are right below a i7, there good but, Q9550 is not future proof. Getting lga would include in getting about the same amount later on as the same as a am2+.

Mobo/CPU/ram/etc.

+ for gaming, since it relies mainly on the gfx card, your puting a gtx 260 vs the 4890 1gb in the build i put together.

im sure the am3 build would out run the lga 775 socket in the long run.


can you show me a pic or something of how to change the timings on those OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB, just saying change it in bios isnt enough and i cant seem to find a guide online
May 2, 2009 8:02:37 AM

fullmetall said:
They say AM3 CPU's work with AM2+ socket type motherboards, im not sure about the am2+ cpu's working with am3 socket type motherboards, i dont think it works that way after seeing the top motherboard a x4 940 can use is am3/am2+ which is the ud4p + ddr2 memory.

you want full am3 go with x3 720 or the x4 955 am3 cpu's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=1...(keywords)&Page=2

check out the reviews(on page 2) and that should answer some of your questions... if i was buying an AM3 though(which i am) then i would go for an am3 mobo (which i am) personally i see no point in using an am2+ mobo with an am3 cpu unless you already own the mobo and are too cheap to buy a new one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this is the mobo i will be purchasing (which conveniently is in a combo deal with the 955 BE for only $353)

and as far as the am2+ cpus working with the am3 mobos, i have heard they arnt compilable, but im not 100% sure, i cant remember the source i heard it from, otherwise i would post it there.

also for $124 this is pretty much a steal in my opinion on this mobo and it also supports DDR3 800/1066/1333 so if you already own some DDr3 memory you wouldnt have to worry too much about buying new memory just to fit the mobo (or buying your mobo to fit your memory)
May 3, 2009 6:38:29 AM

fullmetall said:
Heres a Full AM3 Build

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX HD-489A-ZDFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
1. AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3
2. GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
1. Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
2. Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB

Comes out to be $1050 without Rebates

If you needed to, lower the Gpu to a 4870, that will bring you in the $900 range.

Reason why i chose the x4 955 even though its just an over voltaged x4 940 is because it's full am3, you would need a big upgrade if you went with a am2+ cpu


hey i actually have a copy of vista so i dropped it from the build should i go with this cpu mobo combo instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... so if i ever want to buy a new graphics card, it brings it to $1020
May 4, 2009 6:03:24 PM

either or is fine for the build.
May 6, 2009 8:30:31 PM

fullmetall said:
either or is fine for the build.


unfortunately that cpu/mobo combo you posted just ended but i did see this one which still brings it to 1020 with what seems to be better ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... i was going to ask is the sapphire hd 4890 OC edition worth the extra money or is it easy to just do myself?
May 7, 2009 12:10:06 PM

That combo isnt bad at all. nice.

a 4870 will oc to a limit where the 4890 will take off and oc alot further, beating the 275 IMO at a higher resolution.

if you think it's worth it from that statement, then its your money. either card will benefit your needs.


But, if i were to get one, it be the sapphire or the gigabyte which is the cheapest @ $234 with a M-I-R.
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