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AM3 Phenom II x4 Black Edition vs. Intel Core i7-920

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April 29, 2009 1:59:23 AM

Graphics Card
EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
130$
or
SAPPHIRE 100260SR Radeon HD 4850 X2
260$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black
105$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Processor
AM3 Phenom II x4 Black Edition
245$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case
NZXT Guardian 921
80$(may be too small not sure)
or
COOLER MASTER RC
75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard
ASUS M4A79 Deluxe
190$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
Memory
G.SKILL PI Black 4G
55$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooling
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
35$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or if I decide to go with intel
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366
290$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core i7-920
285$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI N275GTX TwinFrozr OC GeForce GTX 275
260$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

already owned 32 in monitor
April 29, 2009 2:13:11 AM

Both builds look good. If you decide to go with the 4850x2 or plan to crossfire/SLI later, I'd get probably a 600W+ power supply. Also, that ram looks really cheap so I'm not sure if it's actually DDR3 which is the kind you need. And for the case, I'd def. recommend the CM RC-690. GL on ur build.
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April 29, 2009 6:06:27 AM

There's a pretty big performance/price gap between the GTX and 4850 x2 you have listed... Why not opt for the newer GTS 250 1GB?

Hands down the i7 system will outperform your AMD config. AMD is cheaper. Up to you, really.
April 29, 2009 6:40:43 AM

^+1, umm, but that is way less powerful than both of the ones he talked about.

also am3 is not worth it for quad cores, save the cash and get a 940 BE.
April 29, 2009 10:44:46 AM

whats wrong with the guardian 921? on this site
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nzxt_guardian_9...
its got a gold review? an most others have like silver (dunno whether its a good site or not)
btw i also will use this case... is there anything wrong with it? what about size n cooling, cause it looks cool?
mick
April 29, 2009 11:37:48 AM

Overclockers isn't really that great of a review site...I find them useful for finding out how far a CPU can be pushed, but not much more. The CM 690 case that was suggested has far superior airflow to the Guardian 921 and is extremely roomy for a mid tower, allowing for large heatsinks, long GPU's and superior cable management. I wouldn't say there is anything wrong with the Guradian 921, but its just not as good as the 690.

Already owned 32 in monitor said:
Already owned 32 in monitor

I wasn't aware they made 32" monitors...do you mean a 32" TV? If it is indeed a 32" monitor, and you want this to be a gaming rig, then you will need a lot more GPU power than any of the GPU's you listed, as it will be running at 25x16 resolution. I think for that, I would get a Phenom II build with two 4890's in xfire at the very least, to keep the price somewhat reasonable and decent gaming performance.
April 29, 2009 7:36:33 PM

lavas said:
yeah its actually this tv
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168..."
Samsung 32''

as for the graphics card
GeForce GTS 250 1GB Core Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
145$
it doesn't seem as powerful if someone could explain why that was suggested??
Also the two 4890's in xfire were suggested but what would be idealy reccomended


The GTS 250 won't be anywhere near enough to power that big TV monitor. I would recommend at the least a 4890 1GB (and that's the very least, probably won't get much out of games on high settings) but preferably a 4870x2 or 4870 in crossfire, whichever you want.
April 29, 2009 7:48:32 PM

do you know if that TV adds in Black frames?

if it does then you won't have to worry about getting a more powerful gfx card.

edit: just read up on it and it calculates another frame after each frame so you only need 60fps to max it out, so the GTS 250 should do well enough for about 6 months.
April 29, 2009 7:59:39 PM

dannyboy33 said:
The GTS 250 won't be anywhere near enough to power that big TV monitor. I would recommend at the least a 4890 1GB (and that's the very least, probably won't get much out of games on high settings) but preferably a 4870x2 or 4870 in crossfire, whichever you want.

Ridiculous, its only a 1080i display, a standard 22" monitor is similar in resolution. A 4850, not even X2, can do that in most games. A 4850X2 is more than adequate for that TV.
April 29, 2009 8:02:54 PM

Remember guys, it's a 32 inch 1080p TV, not a 25x16 monitor. A single 4890 1GB would be enough for now (IMHO), with the option to cfire a second one later on.
April 29, 2009 8:04:25 PM

sandmanwn said:
its only a 1080i display


1080p, actually (I assume 1080i was a typo)
April 29, 2009 8:05:11 PM

lavas said:
also what do i need if want to listen to high quality music(.flac)

current speaker system
ONKYO HT-S5200 7.1-Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That picture on newegg doesn't give great detail on the back of the receiver, but it appears to have optical inputs. Both of your motherboard choices have optical outputs. That is the best audio solution. At most you will need to purchase an optical cable as they are generally not included with the motherboard package.
April 29, 2009 10:39:20 PM

Originally in I was considering this but i think that was it was thrown out?
MSI N275GTX TwinFrozr OC GeForce GTX 275
260$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

is there not enough gpu power in this?
if not ill probably go with a single 4890 1GB and upgrade in the future if thats what people think is best

any ideas for an os used windows mostly and some linux but wondering if anyone had any suggestions
April 29, 2009 11:42:05 PM

That GTX 275 is faster than the 4890. If you go with the i7 build, then go for the GTX 275, if you go PII, then get the 4890 so you can xfire.
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