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Graphics Card
EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
130$
or
SAPPHIRE 100260SR Radeon HD 4850 X2
260$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102813
Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black
105$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136284
Processor
AM3 Phenom II x4 Black Edition
245$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103674
Case
NZXT Guardian 921
80$(may be too small not sure)
or
COOLER MASTER RC
75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119137
Motherboard
ASUS M4A79 Deluxe
190$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &x=12&y=24
Memory
G.SKILL PI Black 4G
55$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231209
Power
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341022
Cooling
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
35$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003

or if I decide to go with intel
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366
290$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131365
Intel Core i7-920
285$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115202
MSI N275GTX TwinFrozr OC GeForce GTX 275
260$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127429

already owned 32 in monitor


Message edited by lavas on 04-29-2009 at 05:40:37 AM
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Both builds look good. If you decide to go with the 4850x2 or plan to crossfire/SLI later, I'd get probably a 600W+ power supply. Also, that ram looks really cheap so I'm not sure if it's actually DDR3 which is the kind you need. And for the case, I'd def. recommend the CM RC-690. GL on ur build.

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So ill change the ram to
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
89$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231225

and look for a more upgrade friendly power source


Message edited by lavas on 04-29-2009 at 05:49:05 AM
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a more powerful power source
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006
130$

CD/DVD option
LITE-ON Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106291
26$

Alternate ram
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227381
109

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0300438
Intel i7 for 230$
not sure if store is reputable though??

Reply to lavas

There's a pretty big performance/price gap between the GTX and 4850 x2 you have listed... Why not opt for the newer GTS 250 1GB?

Hands down the i7 system will outperform your AMD config. AMD is cheaper. Up to you, really.

Reply to Cpt Deadboots

^+1, umm, but that is way less powerful than both of the ones he talked about.

also am3 is not worth it for quad cores, save the cash and get a 940 BE.

Reply to Helloworld_98

whats wrong with the guardian 921? on this site
http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] _921/6.htm
its got a gold review? an most others have like silver (dunno whether its a good site or not)
btw i also will use this case... is there anything wrong with it? what about size n cooling, cause it looks cool?
mick

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Reply to micky_lund

Coolermaster RC 531
http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] ssis/5.htm
that's all i cand find on the website for RC
mick

Reply to micky_lund

Overclockers isn't really that great of a review site...I find them useful for finding out how far a CPU can be pushed, but not much more. The CM 690 case that was suggested has far superior airflow to the Guardian 921 and is extremely roomy for a mid tower, allowing for large heatsinks, long GPU's and superior cable management. I wouldn't say there is anything wrong with the Guradian 921, but its just not as good as the 690.

 
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Already owned 32 in monitor


I wasn't aware they made 32" monitors...do you mean a 32" TV? If it is indeed a 32" monitor, and you want this to be a gaming rig, then you will need a lot more GPU power than any of the GPU's you listed, as it will be running at 25x16 resolution. I think for that, I would get a Phenom II build with two 4890's in xfire at the very least, to keep the price somewhat reasonable and decent gaming performance.


Message edited by xthekidx on 04-29-2009 at 01:39:55 PM
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yeah its actually this tv
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 2032"
Samsung 32''

as for the graphics card
GeForce GTS 250 1GB Core Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150356
145$
it doesn't seem as powerful if someone could explain why that was suggested??
Also the two 4890's in xfire were suggested but what would be idealy reccomended

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Message edited by lavas on 04-29-2009 at 06:31:56 PM
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also what do i need if want to listen to high quality music(.flac)

current speaker system
ONKYO HT-S5200 7.1-Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6882120141

Reply to lavas

lavas wrote :

yeah its actually this tv
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 2032"
Samsung 32''

as for the graphics card
GeForce GTS 250 1GB Core Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150356
145$
it doesn't seem as powerful if someone could explain why that was suggested??
Also the two 4890's in xfire were suggested but what would be idealy reccomended



The GTS 250 won't be anywhere near enough to power that big TV monitor. I would recommend at the least a 4890 1GB (and that's the very least, probably won't get much out of games on high settings) but preferably a 4870x2 or 4870 in crossfire, whichever you want.

Reply to dannyboy33

do you know if that TV adds in Black frames?

 

if it does then you won't have to worry about getting a more powerful gfx card.

 

edit: just read up on it and it calculates another frame after each frame so you only need 60fps to max it out, so the GTS 250 should do well enough for about 6 months.


Message edited by Helloworld_98 on 04-29-2009 at 09:52:04 PM
Reply to Helloworld_98

dannyboy33 wrote :

The GTS 250 won't be anywhere near enough to power that big TV monitor. I would recommend at the least a 4890 1GB (and that's the very least, probably won't get much out of games on high settings) but preferably a 4870x2 or 4870 in crossfire, whichever you want.


Ridiculous, its only a 1080i display, a standard 22" monitor is similar in resolution. A 4850, not even X2, can do that in most games. A 4850X2 is more than adequate for that TV.

Reply to sandmanwn

Remember guys, it's a 32 inch 1080p TV, not a 25x16 monitor. A single 4890 1GB would be enough for now (IMHO), with the option to cfire a second one later on.

Reply to mtyermom

sandmanwn wrote :

its only a 1080i display



1080p, actually (I assume 1080i was a typo)

Reply to mtyermom

lavas wrote :

also what do i need if want to listen to high quality music(.flac)

current speaker system
ONKYO HT-S5200 7.1-Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6882120141


That picture on newegg doesn't give great detail on the back of the receiver, but it appears to have optical inputs. Both of your motherboard choices have optical outputs. That is the best audio solution. At most you will need to purchase an optical cable as they are generally not included with the motherboard package.

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Originally in I was considering this but i think that was it was thrown out?
MSI N275GTX TwinFrozr OC GeForce GTX 275
260$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127429

is there not enough gpu power in this?
if not ill probably go with a single 4890 1GB and upgrade in the future if thats what people think is best

any ideas for an os used windows mostly and some linux but wondering if anyone had any suggestions

Reply to lavas

That GTX 275 is faster than the 4890. If you go with the i7 build, then go for the GTX 275, if you go PII, then get the 4890 so you can xfire.

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GTX 260 Core 216
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