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February 12, 2011 12:28:42 PM

I make Call Of Duty Videos for YouTube I have a pretty big following now and I used to edit/render videos on a dual core laptop. So the question is will this set-up/overclock benefit me here's the spec.

M59 NZXT 4 X 120mm fans installed

ASUS M4N75TD (Only runs GPU's at x8 which is a bugger)

AMD Phenom II Six Core (Now the stock clock of this is 2.8, since the render times in sony vegas 10 need to be low for me will I notice a difference from 2.8 to 3.2 - 3.4GHZ)

Cooled by the Nocuta (Spelling?) D14

GTX 460 (In 3 months will go SLI)

8GB DDR3 or 12GB DDR3 still on the fence :) 

This is 75% Built so changes still can be made, what do you thing of the overall build. Decent?

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February 13, 2011 6:53:12 PM

Build is very nice.

Honestly though, 12GB DDR3 is overkill.. 8GB will be more than enough for what you're after. The GTX 460 is an awesome graphics card too, and you'll love having SLI.

Also so you know, SLI at x8 is almost no different to x16x16. With my two GTX 260s, I gained maybe 2-3 FPS when upgrading my motherboard, and that could either be to do with other components working better or simply placebo.
February 13, 2011 7:03:40 PM

Fans = Great, you can never have enough cooling.
Motherboard = Great.
Processor = PERFECT for Rendering and what you use it for.
Heatsink = Great, Nocuta makes great Heatsinks!
Graphics card = Great! SLI will be amazing but I never saw a difference in the GTS 450 and GTX 460.
RAM = 8GB will be perfectly fine, I guarantee you'll never even use it all. I got 8GB and it's great!

Overall: Very nice build, 6-Cores you will 100% like and use. I'd say go for it, but only get 8GB, anything more is a bit of a waste of money honestly...
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February 14, 2011 5:44:48 PM

Awesome, thanks you two for the quick response. 750w Corsair enough for the SLI of GTX Sonic platinum?
February 16, 2011 5:52:24 PM

majorgibly said:
Awesome, thanks you two for the quick response. 750w Corsair enough for the SLI of GTX Sonic platinum?


I don't think so, it says on Newegg's Details for that GTS 460 that you need a "Minimum 450W or greater system power supply (with a minimum 12V current rating of 24A)"
Sorce: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would say 1 of them would be perfectly fine, but if you want to use two of them in SLI (or at all) then you need to get at least a 1000W Power Supply. Because with 1000W you'll have 100W spare to use just in case you need more wattage for other things.

Now here's a link to the Corsair 1000W Power Supply. Corsair is GREAT at power supplies. Their quiet, cool, and last a long time! Now it is a bit pricey, but one thing I learned and I strong stand to is NEVER GO CHEAP ON A POWER SUPPLY!!!

You want to spend the extra money to get a quality Brand and a good wattage for what you need! If you don't get enough, well... say Hello to your brand-new ~$500 paper weight. I would rather spend the $215 on a 1000W Corsair Power Supply which is a plenty high enough wattage and a great brand, than spend ~$125 on some 1000W that's made by a cheap brand that I've never heard of.
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February 16, 2011 7:06:32 PM

I like the build. Especially for rendering. The X6 isn't that great for gaming, in fact I'm quite sure I've seen X4's are better for gaming, but with all the rendering the X6 will shine.

Also, a 750 Corsair unit is sufficient for sure. Just look at all the *** I'm running on my 750TX. And it's all overclocked. And still according to calculators with a safety factor I only "need" around 650-700. (That's with two 5850s, i5 750, a GT240, sound card, two HDDs, an SSD, and 6 case fans)

A 1000W PSU is a ridiculous recommendation. A 1000W supply would run tri SLI 580s with water cooling and an overclocked 980X. Keep in mind a 450W PSU is for the COMPLETE SYSTEM. Not just the GPU. A 460 uses like 100W.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nv...

At full load the whole system with a 460 is using 270W at the wall. Add 100 even 150W - hell, let's say with overclocking you add 200W. That's only 470W. Yes a quality PSU is vitally important but you don't need to go for a ton of wattage.
February 16, 2011 7:11:10 PM

wolfram23 said:
. . . A 1000W PSU is a ridiculous recommendation. A 1000W supply would run tri SLI 580s with water cooling and an overclocked 980X. Keep in mind a 450W PSU is for the COMPLETE SYSTEM. Not just the GPU. A 460 uses like 100W.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nv...

At full load the whole system with a 460 is using 270W at the wall. Add 100 even 150W - hell, let's say with overclocking you add 200W. That's only 470W. Yes a quality PSU is vitally important but you don't need to go for a ton of wattage.


Right, my bad. I totally forgot about the actual "usage". Thanks for the correction. :D 
February 17, 2011 11:39:21 AM

majorgibly said:
I make Call Of Duty Videos for YouTube I have a pretty big following now and I used to edit/render videos on a dual core laptop. So the question is will this set-up/overclock benefit me here's the spec.

M59 NZXT 4 X 120mm fans installed

ASUS M4N75TD (Only runs GPU's at x8 which is a bugger)

AMD Phenom II Six Core (Now the stock clock of this is 2.8, since the render times in sony vegas 10 need to be low for me will I notice a difference from 2.8 to 3.2 - 3.4GHZ)

Cooled by the Nocuta (Spelling?) D14

GTX 460 (In 3 months will go SLI)

8GB DDR3 or 12GB DDR3 still on the fence :) 

This is 75% Built so changes still can be made, what do you thing of the overall build. Decent?

Hi... :hello:  ...I'd just go with acer0169 & I think his close to the mark :pt1cable:  ...I gotta go as I have seen enough :)  ...
February 17, 2011 7:57:30 PM

So later down the road, I can add another GTX 460 correct?
February 17, 2011 8:08:34 PM

majorgibly said:
So later down the road, I can add another GTX 460 correct?


Yes, you should be fine. Sorry about the misunderstanding before - totally forgot about the actual usage.

The wattage for the GTX 460 would be ~25w at idle and it can go up to ~155w at full. Adding another card in SLI would increase the amount of wattage you need by another ~200w.

Base on what I'm reading (GeForce GTX Review) the recommended PSU would be 600-700 watts.

So I would say the most you could use when running two GTX 460 in SLI would be ~370W (+/- 10 watts). So you should be perfectly fine! :) 

Source: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/13
February 17, 2011 8:27:22 PM

majorgibly said:
Thanks for the response, also just ordered a HDD I think it's the wrong one for what I want :( 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001IKKCLS/ref=oss_p...


Based on what your trying to build, it would have been better to get a 32MB (Even 64MB if you want to spend the extra money) cache HDD. For basic use that's fine, 16MB cache isn't so bad, and 500GB of memory is plenty (at least for me).

NOW what you could do (if you want the best performance) is to go buy a SSD. NOTE: SSD's are low in Size but up to 30x faster than normal HDD's. I would buy this 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 because it's the best deal based on price for size/performance.

This is the exact SSD I'm using and it works perfectly fine. I'd say it's worth the money if you REALLY wanna open and do thigns instantly. :) 

Here are some options for you though:
1. Stick with the 500GB HDD you ordered.

2. Buy Western Digital Caviar Black (Has 64MB Cache, 1TB Storage Space, 7200RPM's & 6GB/s SATA)

3. OR buy a 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (250MB/s Write Speed, 270MB/s Read Speed, 60GB Storage Space).

NOTE: With a SSD you mainly use it for the OS, Antiviruses, Main programs (like Sony Vegas, Adobe, etc), and some games due to the limited amount of space it has. I have a 1TB HDD for a backup and to store other things like Music Videos, etc.
February 17, 2011 8:30:15 PM

Well I have ordered it I mean I'm not made of money but these are what I'm going to be upgrading.

1x GTX 460
1x SSD
2x 1TB (For saving footage to)

:) 
February 17, 2011 8:39:33 PM

majorgibly said:
Well I have ordered it I mean I'm not made of money but these are what I'm going to be upgrading.

1x GTX 460
1x SSD
2x 1TB (For saving footage to)

:) 


Very nice, you'll like the SSD! I think it's amazing! The 2x 1TB HDD's are a great choice! Whether their fast or not (like it matters for video or anything) they'll be great.

Quick note for SSD's: DO NOT Defrag a SSD! Doing so is bad for it as a Defrag is made for a normal HDD; also note that a SSD has NO moving parts, so it will never get defragged no matter what anything says. :p 

But good luck with your build!
February 17, 2011 8:41:25 PM

Thanks man, I will post a comment when it's done. Hopefully if the post is good tuesday :) 
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February 17, 2011 8:55:35 PM

There's some threads on SSD set up and maintenance in the Storage topic on the forums. Definitely worth a read if you're getting into it.
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