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May 2, 2009 10:47:23 AM

i am thinking about building i PC and i need to know if what i found is pretty good but im trying to keep the price under $475 heres the list :??: 

Rosewill R220-P-BK Black 0.5mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Rosewill RP500-2 500W ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply

GIGABYTE GA-G41M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor L2 Cache 3MB

CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Galaxy GeForce 9500 GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

ASUS Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor

that all comes to about $458 bucks

and if yall are wondering if its for games then yes but not the SUPER gfx games tho

also i made a pc on dell.com and it came to about 600 bucks easy without a gfx card

so alittle help would be great :hello: 

if it aint vary good my other thought would be a dell inspiron 530 desktop :??: 

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May 2, 2009 11:06:12 AM

Hmm, well its on a tight budget, but if you are gaming in any way I would say go with the E5200 and then get either of these bargains as a GPU - even if you don't game first person shooters or anything else like that, you will still notice a much bigger difference than between the E7400 and E5200:

Open box 4830:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
New 4670:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 4830 is probably somewhere along the lines of 3-4 times as powerful as the 9500GT - it will play every game out there at playable rate (not max settings though), which I don't think can be said to be in any equal measure for the 9500GT - at least in terms of games like Empire Total War, World at War, COD series, Crysis, WoW etc etc are all going to be substantially better.

As for the case and the PSU I will check that in a sec.
May 2, 2009 11:14:31 AM

Case and PSU:
Here are some good deals to consider that are the same price range ~ $75
Rosewill TU-155 Black Steel ATX Black 0.8mm SGCC Steel Mid Tower Computer Case 400W(20+4 pin) Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
APEVIA X-Dreamer ATXB3KLW-AL Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

However if you go with a 400W power supply I would recommend going for the 4670 GPU instead of the 4830 which may draw to much power

Can't really vouch for the PSU on these - but looks like some people have had them for 5 years and longer -so that at least is a good sign.
I also think they will be better than what you chose to start with and you don't need a 500W PSU necessarily.

If you can spend a bit more money I would recommend you to spend it on the case and PSU - because if you buy good ones that you like you can use it for your future build. Read this for more on what components are important to spend money on:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264181-31-best-bang-b...

And this is a good list (really a must read I think if you are building a pc) of recommended parts for cases and PSUs: (also explains why more expensive PSUs and case really really are worth it - you don't want to fry all your equipment for example)

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257075-31-guide-choos...


+Proximon's great list of current parts:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257547-31-personal-li...
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May 2, 2009 11:43:37 AM

any idea on a GeForce gfx card cuz lol ati cards aint too fond of me crashed like 10+ times and then it wouldnt work till i pulled the pc fully apart :(  thx for the quick response :D 
May 2, 2009 11:49:41 AM

its for like internet alittle bit. music. videos and games like neverwinter nights 2 quake 4 NFS PS and so on....
May 2, 2009 11:53:50 AM

Geforce cards are not good value sadly nowdays (in the budget range that is) and ATI is fine, but if you have to go with NVidia then I would try to get at least a 9600GT, which is a solid card (still not as good as the 4670 or 4830) or if you can spend the money then the GTS 250 is excellent - that is the first price point where NVidia is competitive (at least in the US) IMHO

-edit, just saw the last comment - still think you will benefit much more from the E5200 and a better video card. The E5200 runs every day to day program and multi-tasking with the same ease as the E7400, the only thing better for multi-tasking is more cores and the only thing you will ever probably notice if you did professional bench marks between the two in the programs that you use on a daily basis is that when you are encoding mp3's, defraging your drives or playing games the E7400 will be a bit (just a bit) faster. You won't notice this in real life because the difference will be that little (pretty much academic). For the light use you describe the E7400 is pretty much overkill, the extra MB of cache and clock speed is something you will really only notice if you run CPU heavy programs (like professional applications that need to compile or calculate vast amounts of mathematical data or games that do the same).

Also mate - what series was that ATI card? was it back in the days of the X1000 series? I had one of them, an X1600 mobility in a laptop which ran way too hot and crashed a lot. ATI has picked up their game a lot since then, but I would look through the forums and see what people say about the stability of any card before you buy it, also check if it has driver issues - that can be a problem with ATI sometimes - but again they are much better there now as well.
:) 
May 2, 2009 12:25:01 PM

it was a ati raideon HD 2600XT 512MB 128-bit AGP card lol i know its a little out dated but it works
May 2, 2009 12:45:54 PM

I'm not entirely sure - but I think that card is about the same spec as the 9500GT - gonna check here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-gtx,...

yeah they are about the same performance wise - so really no reason at all to get the 9500GT - you could just use the old card and it would be the same. Also the chart on this page should give you a relative idea of the performance of the different cards
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