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wa1   10-22-2009 at 11:58:12 AM

I have an old GA 965P DS3 (PCIEx16 ver 1.0), now i just brought a new HD 4850(x16 ver 2.0 of course). My proc: E6300, memory DDR2 2 GB PC5300 running on dual channel and a Silverstone with 500W.
My question is, what series of Gigabyte's mobo that match with my spec's above???? Detail please...
I just want my 4850 running at top performance...
Thank u so much 4 your answer....

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Socket 775 chipset progression 965>P35>X38>P45>X48. Any of these Intel chipsets will support the E6300 C2D. A single Radeon 4850 will not use more bandwidth than the PCIe 1.0 16x slot available on the 965, the card runs fine on the 965. PCIe 2.0 is not a requirement. PCIe 2.0 was introduced on the X38. P45 and X48 also offer PCIe 2.0.
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badge   10-22-2009 at 12:11:51 PM
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Socket 775 chipset progression 965>P35>X38>P45>X48. Any of these Intel chipsets will support the E6300 C2D. A single Radeon 4850 will not use more bandwidth than the PCIe 1.0 16x slot available on the 965, the card runs fine on the 965. PCIe 2.0 is not a requirement. PCIe 2.0 was introduced on the X38. P45 and X48 also offer PCIe 2.0.


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wa1   10-22-2009 at 03:51:53 PM

really?? i didn't know that a 4850 not use more bandwidth than the PCIe 1.0 16x.....
from where did u notice that?? can u tell me some more about that??
thx...

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badge   10-22-2009 at 04:07:36 PM

Well, it's common knowledge to be frank. In fact, the limitations of AGP8 are not taxed with average video processing needs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

PCI Express 2.0

PCIe 2.0 doubles the bus standard's bandwidth from 250 MB/s to 500 MB/s. Even under heavy stress, the 4850 would not need to process faster than 250 MB/per sec. That's 250 megabytes. You're processor would be the likely component to bottleneck the system, not the fact the GPU was installed on a PCIe 1.1 capable MB. PCIe 1.1 and PCIe 2 are backwards compatible. The 4850 will work fine on your're MB like I said earlier. PCIe 2 was initiated with the X38 chipset and is installed on the P45 and X 48 which came after the X38. Those are the options on Intel 775 chipsets like I explained earlier.


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wa1   10-22-2009 at 04:26:45 PM

so, what kind of factors that impact the bottleneck? FSB? CPU speed? or RAM speed??
cause my 965P run at 1066 MHz max... so i can't upgrading my cpu to better ones...
:(
sorry to be so rude, i'm asking so many questions cause i don't know the answers...
thx man.

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badge   10-22-2009 at 04:37:01 PM

The CPU speed would be the biggest bottleneck if the Radeon 4850 were to be installed. 1066MHz. is the DDR2 RAM speed. PC25300 will not run at 1066MHz. Half that 667MHz or a little better if asked. RAM speed is not as important on a socket 775 as the CPU speed. You're RAM and the 965 chipset are fine. In fact, if you could overclock the E6300 it would be a fairly nice system for gaming. I have two 965 MBs running currently. One has a Q6600 with a 9800GT, the other E6600, 9600GT.

If you already bought the Radeon 4850 just install it and see how it goes. You can check your MB's online product page for a CPU support list. You could buy a new Intel P45 MB ($120-150) and a new processor, E8500 ($150-175). Upgrading a socket 775 may not be the best idea as the socket is being phased out.

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wa1   10-23-2009 at 06:59:15 AM

hm, it seems i can't OC'ing my CPU, i don't know why, maybe the MB that won't allow me to OC... And I'm not kind of person that like OC coz it would shortened my cpu's life itself... am i right?
It's very nice to learn something new to me, badge. I haven't opened my 4850 box yet, i'm a little busy this week, so maybe i just install it next week...
Oh, about the power connector cable from PSU to VGA, how many cable do i need to supply a HIS 4850 IceQ 4?
Thx a lot, badge, lot of things to learn... :)

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badge   10-23-2009 at 08:03:04 AM

A lot of system builders 'lock' the BIOS of any overclocking capability. The Radeon 4850 requires a 6 pin auxillary 12v power connector from the PSU. Newer power supplys will provide the 6pin PCIe 12v connector directly. Older PSUs may not have the 6 pin power connector for the PCIe card present. Check inside the box of the Radeon 4850 for a dual 4 pin molex to 6 pin PCIe 12v adapter and use that.

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badge   10-23-2009 at 08:09:03 AM

Hopefully one of these molex to 6 pin PCIe power adapters is included with the 4850. Click on the picture for close up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

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wa1   10-25-2009 at 03:28:04 AM

now i just thinking an upgrade for my old win XP Pro to Win 7, what do u think? Is it possible? Do my 965P support it? cause i think it's a waste if i run a 4850 on the system that only work on direct 9...
I'll check my PSU box later if it provided a power connector to VGA, if it doesn't then i could buy one...

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bilbat   10-25-2009 at 03:37:12 AM

Win 7 is great - been running it forever, and took a few OSs off my system, as I find I almost always choose to use 7UltX64 - however - there is no upgrade path from Xp to 7 - gotta deal with your data, and reinstall all your programs (but it's well worth it!)

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wa1   10-25-2009 at 03:40:06 AM

i just check on silverstone's web and it seems that my PSU is support a cable power connector 6pin for vga...

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wa1   10-25-2009 at 04:43:16 AM

yes, i knew it and i don't really mean if i must format my hardisk to install a new win 7....
bilbat, do u have any trouble on your 7UltX64? i heard that many programs and applications that not compatible on 7ultix64....

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wa1   10-25-2009 at 05:46:30 AM

but before i could upgrade it, i must check for sure that my 965P drivers would run on win 7....

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bilbat   10-25-2009 at 04:35:12 PM

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i heard that many programs and applications that not compatible on 7ultix64....


I have roughly ten dozen apps installed, and I think I have two that needed 'compatibility adjustments'... Win 7 has a wizard for this:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9434/0129n.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2341/0130aw.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1738/0131r.jpg

I also run a number of old, really ill-manered industrial logic controller programs, that never even ran worth a tinker's damn under Xp, but work fine now in Win 7's 'Virtual Xp'... What you will run into, often, is that program installers will 'spit up'; the usual cause for this is that the (idiot) programmers 'enumerate' the version identifiers that the program can use, rather that say 'version greater than or equal to...'; in other words, they ask for Xp Sp2, or Xp Sp3, or Vista Sp1, or Vista SP2, rather than just calling for 'any version higher than Xp service pack 1'! Again, the troubleshooter above takes care of this, and once the programs are actually installed, there are no further problems...

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wa1   10-26-2009 at 01:55:57 AM

hmm.. yeah, u're right man, i just don't understand why some programs didn't work on the newest system but they're actually runs fine on the earlier version of windows....
I think it might worth to try. well, anyway, comeback to my previous question, could a 965P run a win 7? is it compatible?
If it work, i'm just happy to dispose my old xp from hardisk and install a fresh new win 7 this weekend.

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bilbat   10-26-2009 at 03:32:27 AM

The 965 is supported - the only problem I'm aware of is with MOBOs whose BIOS have a toggle to enable 'away mode', seems to be possible shutdown troubles if it's enabled - but - GBs only support 'away' on AMD boards (anyhow, that I'm aware of...); you'll want to check the rest of your hardware with the Upgrade Advisor:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/w [...] visor.aspx


Message edited by bilbat on 10-26-2009 at 03:37:17 AM
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wa1   10-26-2009 at 09:00:47 AM

ok, i think its enough. if i can't install it then i just keep my xp on my systems until i get a new investment to buy a new mobo.... thx 4 all guys...

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