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Core 2 Quad PC - Is this system a good deal?

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August 8, 2009 8:48:52 AM

I'm looking for a gaming PC and saw this on Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Let me know if I can do better. After the rebate, it's just barely in my budget. I was pissed earlier today -- they had the same PC as an open box for $610. I spent 10 minutes looking up specs on the video card and it was gone. :cry: 

I don't really like the graphic on the side, but it will be inside a desk and I could pretty much care less.
August 8, 2009 8:58:13 AM

1.What is the resolution of your monitor?
2. It has only 1 year warranty so I suggest you build it yourself. It might be even cheaper.
3. I suggest a more powerfull cpu and gpu. Maybe you should look for a Phenom 2. It cheaper and better.
August 8, 2009 1:10:21 PM

After reading newegg's customer reviews, I would stay away from it. You'd be better off getting a dell or hp and adding a mid range video card, such as the 4850. I saw an hp core i7 system for $750 recently. Check fatwallet or slickdeals for specials, especially on sunday or monday when the ads change. I have built my own, but a prebuilt system is still cheaper, in spite of what you hear. I got my last pc for $199 at Frys electronics, and it came with vista basic and 2 gigs of ddr2.
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August 8, 2009 5:44:33 PM

Yeah, I did see the reviews. Seems like a few people had issues with blue screens. Sounds more like a Vista problem than anything else. I plan to put Windows 7 on it when it comes out in a few months. I might try the RC if I can get it to work since Vista is such a piece of crap.

I would much rather build it myself, but as you mentioned, wouldn't be able to get close to the specs for that price. I will check those sites you mentioned. Still tempted by the after rebate price though.

Did the core i7 you saw have dual video slots?
August 8, 2009 5:48:55 PM

hefox said:
1.What is the resolution of your monitor?
2. It has only 1 year warranty so I suggest you build it yourself. It might be even cheaper.
3. I suggest a more powerfull cpu and gpu. Maybe you should look for a Phenom 2. It cheaper and better.



It's a samsung 20" lcd, nothing special.

I don't see how it could be cheaper if I build it myself (after rebate price). I would gladly build it myself, but every time I try to piece together a similar PC w/ dual video slots, it's always more. Even the Phenom.
August 8, 2009 9:26:41 PM

warewulf said:
I'm looking for a gaming PC and saw this on Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Let me know if I can do better. After the rebate, it's just barely in my budget. I was pissed earlier today -- they had the same PC as an open box for $610. I spent 10 minutes looking up specs on the video card and it was gone. :cry: 

I don't really like the graphic on the side, but it will be inside a desk and I could pretty much care less.


Don't buy that PC if you don't want to hit a wall when its time to upgrade.... Look at the reviews and see for yourself....
August 9, 2009 6:06:29 AM

I've looked at the specs on this system and it still seems like a really good deal. I'd like to be able to custom build a similar system, but it would probably end up costing around $1000.

It's an Asus P5Q3 Board and an Intel chipset:

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=709&l4=...

Like I said before, if you know of a better deal for $660, please post a link.
August 9, 2009 6:40:23 AM




Thanks for your reply. I saw that one at J&R for the same price with free shipping, it is currently my second choice. The only reason I would choose it 2nd is because it doesn't have a 2nd PCIE video slot. Other than that, the specs look pretty similar.

The Dell is out of my price range, though really nice except for the video card is only 512 mb's, doesn't look like it has a 2nd slot either.
August 9, 2009 6:42:07 AM

I wonder how much flexibility you get with the BIOS on these systems? Could be locked out of any OCing ability which sucks big time.
August 9, 2009 6:45:35 AM

badge said:
I wonder how much flexibility you get with the BIOS on these systems? Could be locked out of any OCing ability which sucks big time.



The ASUS board does have some overclocking features:

ASUS AI Booster
Precision Tweaker 2:
- vCore: Adjustable CPU voltage at 6.25mV increment
- vDIMM: 64-step DRAM voltage control
- vChipset: 55-step Chipset voltage control
- vCPU PLL: 64-step CPU PLL voltage control
SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection)
- FSB tuning from 200MHz up to 800MHz at 1MHz increment
- PCI Express frequency tuning from 100MHz up to180MHz at 1MHz increment
Overclocking Protection:
- ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)

I don't know ANYTHING about overclocking, but will probably experiment with it.
August 9, 2009 6:47:02 AM

My son uses a Q6600 with an ASUS 965 chipset clocked at 3.0GHz x 4. His friend has the same ASUS MB (Hewlett Packard special production) with a Q6600 and his system runs at 2.4GHz. with Speedstep locked. It's has a 'locked' BIOS, I can't even disable speedstep! What a shame. So, when you say the Newegg system has that ASUS MB, hopefully the BIOS isn't locked down. I don't know.
August 9, 2009 7:08:26 AM

I would buy this :

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Total : 676.00$ Shipped in 3 days........
August 9, 2009 7:33:18 AM

That's definitely more like it! Plus I don't need Vista, so could probably upgrade something. Maybe get an X4 or a better mobo?
August 9, 2009 9:08:07 AM

Ok, I tweaked your build. I don't need Vista + I have a SATA HD, though it's only Sata 1.0. I'll replace it later.



Pretty much the same price as the other system shipped after the rebate.

August 9, 2009 2:59:44 PM

just a sugestion, i have this mobo in my HTPC/gaming/solidworks rig and have had great luck with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
its 75 bucks cheaper which would allow you to get the X4 955 and a 4870 for the same price. This board has all the options you could want in the bios and then some that most people will never need. layout is great as well. the 955 is a black edition so OCing will be a bit easier sinve you can tweak the multiplier. just my 2 cents
August 9, 2009 8:06:55 PM

warewulf said:
That's definitely more like it! Plus I don't need Vista, so could probably upgrade something. Maybe get an X4 or a better mobo?


Yea, if you dont need vista then get a better mobo, but keep the 720...... I have seen the 720 hit 3.6Ghz easy, so the CPU should be enough for your needs.....

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


August 9, 2009 9:09:10 PM

ewood said:
just a sugestion, i have this mobo in my HTPC/gaming/solidworks rig and have had great luck with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
its 75 bucks cheaper which would allow you to get the X4 955 and a 4870 for the same price. This board has all the options you could want in the bios and then some that most people will never need. layout is great as well. the 955 is a black edition so OCing will be a bit easier sinve you can tweak the multiplier. just my 2 cents



Which would be better. That board, or the Asus M4A78T-E ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Pretty much the same? Looks like the Gigabyte board doesn't have the built in video (which I don't need), but I've always liked Asus.

Of course, Newegg is out of the CPU, but looks like Amazon has it for $199 w/ free shipping.
August 9, 2009 10:02:43 PM

ATM I would not buy any Asus unless it was an X58 board, Asus is having issues with a specific " sync flood" error.... The Gigabytes do not have that issue and IMO are more stable....
August 9, 2009 11:46:42 PM

Any problems/suggestions for the following? Getting the Phenom 955 X4 3.2 at Amazon for $199. Decided to go ahead and get the HD now:



Again, thanks for all the help! :D 
August 10, 2009 4:45:20 AM

gkay09 said:
^ There are 2 components that are not so good -
1. HDD - That Seagate is an old 7200 RPM drive...
Get the Seagate 500GB 7200.12
or even this drive is very good -
Samsung F3 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2. PSU - Definitely change the PSU -
This a very good one for that price...
OCZ 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rest are pretty good...


Thanks for the info on the HD, I found another Seagate 7200.12, same price even.

Funny you should mention the power supply. I had already figured that one out and spent probably an hour looking at them earlier today. Funny thing is, I picked the exact one you suggested! :lol:  Good customer reviews, I like the modular design too.
August 10, 2009 5:01:03 AM

warewulf said:
Any problems/suggestions for the following? Getting the Phenom 955 X4 3.2 at Amazon for $199. Decided to go ahead and get the HD now:

]http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3879/neweggbuild.th.jpg

Again, thanks for all the help! :D 


If you can shell out an extra 15.00$ i would highly recommend you get a Western Digital Caviar Black 640Gb drive.....As far as price to performance the 640 black is second to none.....

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

August 10, 2009 6:13:13 AM

OvrClkr said:
If you can shell out an extra 15.00$ i would highly recommend you get a Western Digital Caviar Black 640Gb drive.....As far as price to performance the 640 black is second to none.....

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Ok, looked at the specs and reviews of the HD, added it instead of the Seagate. I do like the 5 year warranty.

I just finished ordering everything!! :D 

All in all, with rebates and everything else, ended up costing only $65 more than the original system! Not too bad considering I will end up with a totally custom system with top notch parts! I can't wait to receive it!!

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions!
August 14, 2009 6:47:00 AM

I got all the parts today and put everything together. Runs great! Really fast! Only problem is the stock CPU fan is annoyingly loud. I checked all the other fans, definitely the CPU fan.

Is there a decent replacement fan that you all recommend that is QUIET?
August 14, 2009 3:33:13 PM

OvrClkr said:
Well I use a Freezer Pro and I do not hear any sound comming from my CPU fan, there is also the Core Contact 92mm cooler that is silent as well... here they are :

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

Sunbeam CR-CCTF92-4 92mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I got the first one because of the free case fan. Thanks again!
August 14, 2009 4:01:59 PM

Well just to let ya know, that is a hell of a cooler for the price + a free fan.... An remember that the cooler comes already with pre-applied paste so there is no need to use an aftermarket paste.... Just remove the stock cooler, wipe off the CPU and install the new cooler.... Easy as 1,2,3.......
August 14, 2009 8:59:01 PM

Yeah, looked like a good deal. Even though the case fan is a Cooler Master, this one is probably better. Plus I'll have to see if there's somewhere else I can mount it.

Many of the reviews said it lowered the temp by 10 C which will hopefully make it last longer. Esp if I end up overclocking it. I want to give it a few weeks and make sure there are no problems before messing with OC'ing. Plus at this point, doesn't seem to need it.

I really like the modular PS. Less clutter is always a good thing.

I ended up putting Windows 7 RC on it. So far, so good. Seems to run faster than Vista. Of course, that could just be because this system is new vs. my old P4 3.0 single core w/ 2 gb's RAM.

I didn't have a lot of time last night after putting everything together, but already tried Crysis and it ran really smooth! It barely ran at all on my old PC. I hope Wolfenstein is good, comes out next week.
August 14, 2009 9:03:07 PM

obsidian86 said:
anto think you nearly got this lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The shame! :pfff: 

Yeah, glad I built it myself. Didn't seem right to buy a pre-configured system. Esp when they don't list the brands and models of all the parts.

I build servers and workstations all the time at work, but hadn't built a gaming rig in a long time. It's easy to lose track of what's good.

August 14, 2009 9:07:31 PM

well now you got something that hits like tyson at a kkk meet.enjoy the power cuz if you can get crysis to run smooth you will run bout anything
August 14, 2009 9:13:58 PM

One more question: Should the HD be hooked up to the main SATA ports, or the GSata? There were only 2 Gsata ports and the other 6 or so all said 2.0. I did a little research and still not sure about that.

I connected it to the main sata ports.
August 15, 2009 12:22:34 AM

Hi, this is what i would make for you, if your budget is 20$ flexible this is a very nice pc, quad core, 4870, everything to oc





gl
August 15, 2009 9:03:31 AM

Rosewill PSU?! No way.
August 15, 2009 9:07:14 AM

yeah i had to put that because of budget. i would personally recommend him to go with a corsair.
August 15, 2009 9:11:41 AM

uhm guys he already got his build
August 15, 2009 9:13:00 AM

quote I got all the parts today and put everything together. Runs great! Really fast! Only problem is the stock CPU fan is annoyingly loud. I checked all the other fans, definitely the CPU fan.

Is there a decent replacement fan that you all recommend that is QUIET?
August 15, 2009 7:57:51 PM

x4 920 is low-end...... waste of money......

id rather get a 720be......
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