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August 9, 2009 5:48:27 PM

So about every 5 years I build myself a new PC. I got lazy about 3 years ago and just bought a DeLL Laptop, my mistake :-(
So Ive been out of the game a little while and after some research this is the part list I came up with. Im not looking to spend a ton of cash but I do want a semi-powerful machine that I will not have to upgrade for some time. Any advice would be great especially if one or more of these parts have know issues I should be aware of. Thanks in advance.

PS

I used tigerdirect.com to find the parts.


Monitor:
V18-2232 :: Viewsonic VX2260wm 22" Widescreen LCD HD Monitor - 1080p, 1000:1 Native, 20000:1 Dynamic, 5ms, 2ms (GTG), 1920x1080, HDMI, Internal Speakers (13.65 lbs)
$199.99


Video Cards in Crossfire
P450-4880 :: XFX Radeon HD 4870 XXX Edition Video Card - 1024MB GDDR5, PCI Express 2.0 x16, CrossFireX Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV (5.7 lbs)
$339.98 - ($169.99 each)

Speakers
L23-6334 :: Logitech Z-5500 THX Certified 5.1 505-watt Dolby Digital & DTS Hardware Decoding Speaker System (54.6 lbs)
$279.99

HD for Storage
TSD-500H3 :: Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM (1.55 lbs)
$54.97

Ram 12GB
C13-2040 :: Corsair XMS3 Tri Channel 6GB PC10666 DDR3 Memory - 1333MHz, 6144MB (3 x 2048) (0.7 lbs)
$229.98 - ($114.99 each)

MoBo / CPU Combo
B69-3107 :: Asus P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Motherboard w/ Intel Core i7 920 Processor BX80601920 Bundle (7.35 lbs)
$589.99

Keyboard / Already have Razor Mouse for Laptop
M17-1871 :: Microsoft SideWinder X6 Keyboard - USB, Macro Keys (4.05 lbs)
$59.99

Optical Drive
L12-1192 :: Lite On IHES206-08 Blu-ray Disc Reader with DVD Writer Combo - 6x BD-ROM, 16X DVD+R, 8X DVD+RW, 16X DVD-R, 6x DVD-RW, SATA, Lightscribe (2.3 lbs)
$89.99

SSD OS / Gaming HD
O261-6120 :: OCZ Vertex Series Solid State Drive - 30GB, 2.5", SATA II (0.35 lbs)
$169.99

PSU
A406-1116 :: XION Power Real 1000W ATX Power Supply (2.74 lbs)
$99.99

CPU After market Heat Sync
C283-1197 :: Cooler Master V8 CPU Fan - Socket 1366/775/940/AM2/AM2+, 120mm Fan, Modular Aluminum Fins (3.35 lbs)
$59.99

Tower
C283-1187 :: Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case (33.15 lbs)
$139.99

I've trimmed what I can off the price. I'm unsure of the speakers, just seems a lot to spend, but it was the only one I found with a decent price for optical input.

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August 9, 2009 6:18:39 PM

Maybe save some money on speakers and buy 4890 and better brand of PSU. But that's just my opinion. Everything else is good.
August 9, 2009 6:28:33 PM

Speakers: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1068250&sku=L23-6334&srkey=L23-6334
ya the speakers I would like to not get but like I said it has the optical input and thx certified so I can also hook up my 360 and ps3 and the same room (if I wanted) and the MoBo has optical out. They are pricey though >.<

4870: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4833002&CatId=3669 $170
4890: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4546384&CatId=3669 $210
4890 xoc http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4633235&CatId=3669 $225
I thought about upgrading to 2 4890's its like a extra $80 even more for the XoC and not sure if the performance will justify it.


The one i selected is here: ]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4494091&CatId=2535]
I admit on the PSU I do want 1000watt or so because of the power hungry components, however I have always been torn on them. I dont want to spend $200 or so and 1000watt at $99 seemed great and dint really have any negative reviews so any help on PSUs would be great.
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August 9, 2009 7:12:46 PM

A cheap 1000w PSU is worse than a good quality 500w PSU, a cheap one will die.

For those components you need a 600w PSU, a 750w would give you plenty of headroom.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

A much better power supply.

Those speakers aren't really worth it. You should save for a decent HTiB, it will sound far better.

http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40656186&source=EW...

A great price and it will destroy a set of Z-5500s.



August 9, 2009 7:29:50 PM

Thanks for the 'sound' advice - get it ;)  - .. sorry couldnt help myself.

Thanks, the PSU is the same price range and from what Im reading will handle my set up just fine.

I have had Onkyo stuff before however it never dawned on me that I could use a theater set up for my computer. I guess one optical one is just as good as another. Great call. Still pricey but Ill just buy my speakers later and save up.

I have yet newb and get flamed so im guess the rest of the components are pretty sound Ill let this thread set until Monday and If I didnt screw up to bad Ill start ordering parts.

Thanks again for any and all advice.
August 9, 2009 8:48:14 PM

Here are some suggestions you should look at.

Here is a 24" that you should look at.
ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with Built in Speakers $199.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001LYPII...

Also would go with this PSU, even if it has lower watts, it is one of the top brands.
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX $139.99 ($109.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Either of these CPU HSF Cooler are worth looking at, they also will not block any of the mobo ram slots.
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail $44.98 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail $36.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get this HDD, has 5yr warranty and it is one of the top HDD around.
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache $74.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Check out this Ram, that is clock higher and will work with mobo you selected.
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 OCZ3P1600LV6GK $112.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get you 30gb SSD here, lower price , also two 60gb SSD's for you to look at.
OCZ Vertex Turbo OCZSSD2-1VTXT30G 2.5" 30GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) - Retail $149.00
ETA:08/10/2009
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) - Retail $221.00
($191.00 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Vertex OCZSSD2-1VTXA60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II Apple / Mac Edition SSD - Retail ($199.00 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate Card)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
note :
Quote:
Pros: Excellent Drive.
Same as Standard Edition. The only difference is the Sticker on the drive that say Mac Edition. Visit OCZ Forums if you need a confirmation.


Two Items you will need for your build.
Thermal Compound
Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Compound - Retail $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You will definately need this 8-pin Power Extension Cable, specially for Cases with Bottom Mounted PSU.
1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F - Retail $8.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would suggest you get the Free Windows7 RC in 64-bit for OS, you can use it until mid March 2010.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download...

You can also check out the Tom's forum thread, it is slighty different then the specs you posted.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/269478-31-gaming-buil...

Hope this helps you out some, good luck on your upcoming build. :wahoo: 

August 9, 2009 9:12:38 PM

+1 for the Scythe Mugen 2.

The Coolermaster V8 looks very nice but its performance on a heavy overclock falls shy of some other units like the Scythe Mugen 2 and Prolimatech Megahalems.
August 9, 2009 9:21:15 PM

going over all the info .. tyvm for the input .. Ill do some research on it and post a new build .. awesome being off work today ;) 
August 9, 2009 10:51:38 PM

I do like the ram .. ty for the heads up I think I will go with that Ram .. better speeds and same price. Also no real negative feedback about it or the brand.

Also like the monitor .. Will research the quality Vs Samsung However it is 1920x1080 and full 1080p so seems great at first glance.

Appreciate the finding items for cheaper too. Gonna stay with the 30g SSD no need for a bigger one for what Ill use it for.

Also still checking out the CPU Coolers .. The V8 is not supposed to block your Ram slot .. unless you forget to put your ram in first ;)  and it comes with paste. I will though check out your recomendations.

Also Im just about to read the write you you linked.

Thanks for the help!
August 9, 2009 11:10:37 PM

Unless you have a real need for the SSD you might want to hold off on purchasing them. Unless you are a design professional they have limited advantages for the average user. Also keep in mind the relative small size, assuming you put your OS on the drive you won't have much room for other programs and files, and anything stored outside the drive will see no benefit in boot times or read/write speed.
August 9, 2009 11:16:46 PM

Looking at the 4890s Im hearing people complain about heat issues. I will be OCing this system and plan to add more fans to my HAF 932 .. noise was never a huge deal to me.. However anyone know if I will be needing after market coolers for the GPUs as well? I did read with the proper PSU there is less of a issue. (Currently going with either the Corsair TX750 or TX850)

Ty for any info on this.
August 9, 2009 11:28:48 PM

And for the SSD the main reason I am going to install one is for the OS and Games mainly .. all storage needs will be on a second HD. My SSD needs are for general OS speeds, gaming (never have more then one or 2 games installed at once .. not enough hours in the day), and when I finish up I will possibly do my photo editing on it as well. Just running CS4 and lightroom on the SSD will help a lot in render times, all pictures will be stored on the second drive, aside from my current project. As a general Reference WoW takes up 15gb after 4 years of updates and it is completely installed on the drive, not running off a CD/DVD. I am no longer playing this game. Aion however I am playing at 8gb and that is all for my gaming atm. Windows 7 clean install will be about a 6gb install CS4 and light room run about 100MB each bring my total to just under 15gb so 30gb SSD drive will do just what I want it to do.

So I think I have the right idea about the SSD, but if I made a mistake on how and what they are used for I am more then willing to 'get learned'. You know what they say fake til you make it!

As a side note I will be playing other games and they will be off the SSD .. unless they are my flavor of the month so to speak.
August 9, 2009 11:40:17 PM

I think you have the overall right idea. SSD will improve boot and load times, and if you often move large files around on the drive it will help with that also because of the better read/write speeds. It will not make games run any faster, and will not improve the basic functions of most apps, though.
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