This is the second thread I've started regarding the upcoming gaming PC I'll be constructing. In my first thread, I proposed going with an E5200 and substantially overclocking it, but you all have shown me the light, and I've decided to go with AMD instead. Anyway, here goes.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Around May 20th.
BUDGET RANGE: I want the final price (including tax and shipping), to be around $900.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Games (specifically Valve, Unreal Engine 3, CoD, Blizzard, and Bioware games), web surfing, schoolwork
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Amazon, Newegg
PARTS PREFERENCES: I prefer AMD CPUs, ATI GPUs, Gigabyte motherboards, Sapphire graphics cards, earthwatts PSUs, Antec and Cooler Master cases, and G.Skill RAM.
In total, this build will end up costing me $911.26.
OVERCLOCKING: Yes, but probably only using a stock cooler.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes, eventually.
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I live in California, so Newegg charges me for both tax and shipping. That is why some of my links are to Amazon. For the big stuff, like the case, speakers, monitors, etc., Amazon is cheaper since I have Amazon Prime shipping and Amazon doesn't charge any sales tax.
Anyway, I have a few questions about this build. For one, is 1066 RAM really necessary? It costs ten bucks more than DDR2 800, so I'm just wondering.
Also, will the power supply I've listed be able to handle all the components I've listed, plus a second 4850? If not, please recommend some good power supplies available for around $70.
And of course, if you spot any other problems with my proposed build, please let me know. Thanks a lot!
Save a bit of money by replacing the 4850 with a 4770 .
A single 4770 is very close to a 4850 in performance , and two in crossfire are sensational because they draw so little power you can keep that 500 W psu .
You can buy the second one later
But spend the savings on a better monitor . There are acers and viewsonics you could check out
That 4850 costs only $99 after mail-in rebate, the same as a 4770. Also, the 4770s on Newegg almost all have bad reviews due to poor driver support. 4770 support should be included in CCC 9.5, I know, but why should I settle for less powerful 4770s with currently shoddy driver support when I can get mature 4850s for roughly the same price? Are the power requirement differences between the 4850 and the 4770 that substantial? What PSU would you recommend I get if I stick with the 4770s?
Also, about the 1066 vs. 800 MHz RAM: will the 20-25% extra I would spend on 1066 RAM provide a performance boost anywhere near that? Will I even be able to get my bus speed high enough to max out 1066 RAM?
"bump" is bumping(posting in) the thread so that it stays on top of the list or altleast in the 1st page...
EDIT : So that it gets replies...
And as for 4870, the 2 4770s in crossfire look like a better option...
You get good refurbished cases for nearly half the price...
Thanks a lot for the CM Store link. The case is probably one of the only things I'd be willing to buy refurbed, and those prices are great.
As for the monitor, the one I really want to get is the Acer X223Wbd, but Amazon (as far as I can tell), doesn't carry it themselves. The Hanns listed above has a pretty good rating on Newegg and is the same price, whereas the Acer V223Wbd seems a little less popular. Hopefully, by the time I actually buy the rig, the X223Wbd will be eligible for Amazon Prime or on sale on Newegg.
Regarding the 4770s, I might go that route if their price decreases ten bucks or so. Even better would be if some non-reference boards come out by the end of the month that show some real performance gains while maintaining or improving upon power consumption and/or cooling (who knows what the price premiums will be on those, though). I know the 4770s are on the 40 nm process, so they probably overclock better than 4850s would (percentage-wise). The 4870, in my opinion, is old hat. They were priced pretty aggressively a couple of months ago, what with all the rebates that were going on and all, but their prices have been on the rise ever since the 1GBs became the de facto mid-range card. Now, you can spend $190 or so on 2 4770s or 4850s and get similar or better performance than a 4890. The 4870 just doesn't make sense for a budget/mid-range build, in my opinion, unless you plan on using a motherboard with only one PCI Express slot.
If I go for the 4770s, I'll probably just stick with the Antec 500W. I try to be environmentally friendly whenever possible, and I've heard some pretty great things about them. Plus, prices for 500W and below units are extremely competitive. If I go with 4850s, I'll probably look into OCZ, PC Power & Cooling, and Corsair 600-700W units.
Anyway, to make a long story short, CM Store is a go, and I'll keep my eye on the monitor, GPU, and PSU situations. Thanks.
PS: This being my first AMD build, what the heck is HyperTransport, what does it do, and is their an analog for Intel CPUs? Also, will the stock cooler on the 720 suffice if I were to attempt to OC to 3.4-3.6 GHz? And finally, is lapping worth it on AMD CPUs?
Well the monitor is much of a personal choice...
And as for Hypertransport, you would understand it better if you read it urself... http://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+hypertransport%3...
And as for lapping the CPU, yes it would give good results but obviously you would be voiding your warranty